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Bluechip 07-18-2012 06:26 PM

Let's talk Broadheads....
 
It's time for me to purchase some Broadheads.

Give me some suggestions...remember, I just got this bow 4 or 5 months ago, so I know nothing about what I need to get.

Should I get some type of special arrow to go with these heads and do you have to tune your arrow with a Broadhead....

All advice and opinions are appreciated....

specktator 07-18-2012 06:49 PM

Carbon arrows doesn't matter what size. I shoot Gold Tip 5575s. I just started shooting Grim Reaper razor tip expandables. One of my friends is a HUGE bow hunter. He kills alot of deer with a bow and he swears by them. I shot one deer so far with them and was very impressed with expansion and blood trail. If u rather trying fixed, can't go wrong with Muzzy.

wtretrievers 07-18-2012 06:53 PM

We're going to here everything on this. (ford vs Chevy) just remember this.....KEEP IT SIMPLE. Fixed heads such as Thunderheads & Muzzy need to be tuned with arrow fletching, and are less likely to fail on impact.
Mechanicals such as the Rage etc can pretty much be screwed on & shot, but they are mechanical & anything mechanical can fail.

I stick with fixed blades myself. Have some horror stories with mechanical & some with fixed but the fixed blade mishaps were my fault.
Get with me at tourney, some stuff you may wanna hear.

Top Dawg 07-18-2012 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wtretrievers (Post 464499)
We're going to here everything on this. (ford vs Chevy) just remember this.....KEEP IT SIMPLE. Fixed heads such as Thunderheads & Muzzy need to be tuned with arrow fletching, and are less likely to fail on impact.
Mechanicals such as the Rage etc can pretty much be screwed on & shot, but they are mechanical & anything mechanical can fail.

I stick with fixed blades myself. Have some horror stories with mechanical & some with fixed but the fixed blade mishaps were my fault.
Get with me at tourney, some stuff you may wanna hear.

This is what I would do if I was serious about bow hunting. Might as well tune your bow right then it will shoot fixed heads like your field points. No failing a fixed head. I killed a deer with expandables but I didn't feel like tuning my bow and I knew that was going to be the extent of my bow huntin.

Bluechip 07-18-2012 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wtretrievers (Post 464499)
We're going to here everything on this. (ford vs Chevy) just remember this.....KEEP IT SIMPLE. Fixed heads such as Thunderheads & Muzzy need to be tuned with arrow fletching, and are less likely to fail on impact.
Mechanicals such as the Rage etc can pretty much be screwed on & shot, but they are mechanical & anything mechanical can fail.

I stick with fixed blades myself. Have some horror stories with mechanical & some with fixed but the fixed blade mishaps were my fault.
Get with me at tourney, some stuff you may wanna hear.


I sure will....Thanks.

Red Devil 07-18-2012 07:12 PM

Right on about the Ford vs. Chevy deal. I have alot of friends that shoot the Rage and they swear by them. Retrievers is right though, they are pretty much ruined after one shot. The expandable blades anyway. I have always been partial to Muzzy, but thinking about switching and trying something new. Since my wife wanted my bow that I bought last year and told me I could by a new one this year, I think I'm going to go all out. Ain't she sweet.

Bluechip 07-18-2012 07:14 PM

It's the tuning part that bothers me....only because I don't know how to do it....I will see what YouTube has to offer.

And Yes Devil, that's a good woman!!!

specktator 07-18-2012 07:31 PM


wtretrievers 07-18-2012 07:31 PM

If you have broadheads by tourney bring them with arrows. We'll play :)

specktator 07-18-2012 07:32 PM


This ones pretty cool.

Smoke Shack BBQ 07-18-2012 07:39 PM

Not all arrows are the same. Be sure to get the correct spine and properly cut to fit your draw length. I would suggest you find a shop that you trust and have them help you with arrow and broadhead selection/tuning. And just because its the most expensive doesn't mean its the best.

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hadabite 07-18-2012 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 464514)
It's the tuning part that bothers me....only because I don't know how to do it....I will see what YouTube has to offer.

And Yes Devil, that's a good woman!!!

I don't believe in tuning. I never have tuned and my broad heads shoot the exact same as me field tips! just my 2 cents

Red Devil 07-18-2012 08:25 PM

Hell, just make it simple and go all Bo & Luke Duke on em and strap a stick of TnT to the end of your arrows.

Bluechip 07-18-2012 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Devil (Post 464592)
Hell, just make it simple and go all Bo & Luke Duke on em and strap a stick of TnT to the end of your arrows.

Then I will have to build an out house to shoot at lol...

longsidelandry 07-18-2012 08:46 PM

Thunderheads!!!! I shoot them and love them!

beccrossee 07-18-2012 08:58 PM

Another vote for the Thunderheads.

Bluechip 07-18-2012 08:58 PM

Did y'all have to tune the arrows?

wtretrievers 07-18-2012 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 464618)
Did y'all have to tune the arrows?

No......but When you put a broadhead or even a field tip spin check it for any wobble or vibration, sometimes inserts don't go in straight when assembled or to much uneven glue on inside shaft will cause wobble & affect accuracy.

I also number my arrows. If I'm shooting tight groups & one arrow say #3 is not in group consistently I'll trash it or pull inserts reglue & refletch & try again

You can get a bad shaft, insert, nock or fletching

Bluechip 07-18-2012 09:14 PM

Ahhh haaa.....gotcha. I'm starting to catch on. Thanks for the info guys.

TealKiller85 07-18-2012 09:55 PM

I'm going with rage, I shot a variety last year Bloodrunners are bad to the bone but do require some tuning. G5 Mechanicals are nice made out of steel not aluminum. Shot rockets for years they are good also. Rage 100gr 2 blade leaves blood trails that a blind man could follow if you know what I mean. I've also shot mechanical broad heads since I was 14 and I've never had one "FAIL".

jrdntboy09 07-19-2012 01:15 AM

Expandable-2 blade rage extreme....I've shot just about everyone out there and u can't beat accuracy out to 60 yards and great blood trail..better than any fixed blade hands down....but if u like fixed I would go with Montec carbon steel, they fly great and are razor sharp but not the blood trail of rage

Gerald 07-19-2012 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hadabite (Post 464587)
I don't believe in tuning. I never have tuned and my broad heads shoot the exact same as me field tips! just my 2 cents

What???? So you don't care if your arrow are "fishing tailing" while flying toward the target?

Maybe you bought your bow and were "lucky" to have had it tuned just right by someone that really knew how to properly tune a bow.

IMO...... tunning a bow so it shoots an arrow smoothly [accurately] is just as import as practicing shooting your bow.

If a bow is not set up just right.....the arrow will be "wobbling" as it flies toward the target. You may not see it wobbling, but if the bow launches the arrow "crooked", it will not fly smoothly.

I would paper tuned my bow, but the next year I had to make some adjustments again to get it back to shooting "builets" holes in the paper. So, years ago I starting reading up on bow tunning and found information on different ways to test a bow "tuning". Many of the articles that I read only covered some of the things to do.

I had never considered checking or making adjustments for what they called the "till". My bow "till" was not correct and after making adjustments, the arrows flight was really much smoother.

Craig..... As far as broadheads go, I got into bow hunting 27 years ago and there were a lot cheap broadheads on the market. I tried one of the first mechanicals that came out and it was an epic failure when I shot a deer with it. There are a bunch of very good mechanicals sold now.

I have been shooting the 100 gr Thunderheads for 15 years and have not found a reason to change. I find the Thunderheads do about the same damage to a deer as my .243 cal rifle.

If you would like some assistance in checking and adjusting your bow tunning, I would be glad to have you come over and see if we can improve your arrow flight. Just about anytime is good for me.

hadabite 07-19-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 464712)
What???? So you don't care if your arrow are "fishing tailing" while flying toward the target?

Maybe you bought your bow and were "lucky" to have had it tuned just right by someone that really knew how to properly tune a bow.

IMO...... tunning a bow so it shoots an arrow smoothly [accurately] is just as import as practicing shooting your bow.

If a bow is not set up just right.....the arrow will be "wobbling" as it flies toward the target. You may not see it wobbling, but if the bow launches the arrow "crooked", it will not fly smoothly.

I would paper tuned my bow, but the next year I had to make some adjustments again to get it back to shooting "builets" holes in the paper. So, years ago I starting reading up on bow tunning and found information on different ways to test a bow "tuning". Many of the articles that I read only covered some of the things to do.

I had never considered checking or making adjustments for what they called the "till". My bow "till" was not correct and after making adjustments, the arrows flight was really much smoother.

Craig..... As far as broadheads go, I got into bow hunting 27 years ago and there were a lot cheap broadheads on the market. I tried one of the first mechanicals that came out and it was an epic failure when I shot a deer with it. There are a bunch of very good mechanicals sold now.

I have been shooting the 100 gr Thunderheads for 15 years and have not found a reason to change. I find the Thunderheads do about the same damage to a deer as my .243 cal rifle.

If you would like some assistance in checking and adjusting your bow tunning, I would be glad to have you come over and see if we can improve your arrow flight. Just about anytime is good for me.

They were asking about tunning arrows! And yes of course my bow is tuned!

IslandRunner 07-19-2012 01:52 PM

Bloodrunners or Rage 2 !!!!!

Goosepond Monster 07-19-2012 02:29 PM

NAP Thunderheads were included with my bow package, so I'll be rolling with those this fall. I need to get another set, because Hunter's Friend only sends three broadheads with the ready-to-shoot packages. I figure I need one for every arrow.

I wish I could remember the brand, but I was watching a show on the Outdoor Channel last weekend and whatever broadhead the guy was using was just wicked. He shot a doe and it didn't go more than twenty yards.

As for fixed vs. mechanical, I vote for fixed. I know that the failure rate is low the the mechanical broadheads, but I'd hate to shoot a big buck and it be the one time that the broadhead fails.

Slidellkid 07-19-2012 05:31 PM

Nothing wrong with Muzzy or Thunderhead, have used them both with good results, but that being said the quickest kills I have ever made (watched all deer fall) were with mechanicals. I really like the mechanicals and will continue to use them.

Jabeaux 07-19-2012 08:55 PM

Switching from Rage 2 blade to Grim Reaper this year. Have had the blades fall open too many times on them Rage and am tired of messing with them.

Feesherman 07-20-2012 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hadabite (Post 464912)
They were asking about tunning arrows! And yes of course my bow is tuned!

To tune arrows you have to make the proper adjustments to your bow! I would never shoot a mechanical. There is a reason most western outfitters won't allow you to shoot mechanicals. They were invented so people didn't have to learn to tune their bow. I don't understand why anyone would allow an extra thing to possibly go wrong. You will have that with mechanicals. Not opening, opening on release, broken blades, freezing and not opening etc. etc. etc. Fixed blade in a tuned bow will always cut a big hole in the animal!

buddy ro 07-20-2012 07:21 AM

i shot rage for a couple years and and the last 4 years ive been shooting steelforce

wtretrievers 07-20-2012 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 465175)
To tune arrows you have to make the proper adjustments to your bow! I would never shoot a mechanical. There is a reason most western outfitters won't allow you to shoot mechanicals. They were invented so people didn't have to learn to tune their bow. I don't understand why anyone would allow an extra thing to possibly go wrong. You will have that with mechanicals. Not opening, opening on release, broken blades, freezing and not opening etc. etc. etc. Fixed blade in a tuned bow will always cut a big hole in the animal!

AMEN!!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddy ro (Post 465182)
i shot rage for a couple years and and the last 4 years ive been shooting steelforce

I shot steelforce for awhile good head. I love a cut on contact head. Just hard to find on a moments notice.

The perfect blade to me would be the Delta Snuffer 3 blade. That's bad & tough SOB. Could only get 5 or 6 to fly right out of a dozen & that was with a lot of tinkering.

Widowmaker 07-23-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 465175)
To tune arrows you have to make the proper adjustments to your bow! I would never shoot a mechanical. There is a reason most western outfitters won't allow you to shoot mechanicals. They were invented so people didn't have to learn to tune their bow. I don't understand why anyone would allow an extra thing to possibly go wrong. You will have that with mechanicals. Not opening, opening on release, broken blades, freezing and not opening etc. etc. etc. Fixed blade in a tuned bow will always cut a big hole in the animal!



Hmmmmm....This is interesting.....lol

Feesherman 07-23-2012 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Widowmaker (Post 466267)
Hmmmmm....This is interesting.....lol

LOL, we already had this discussion remember?

jchief 07-23-2012 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Widowmaker (Post 466267)
Hmmmmm....This is interesting.....lol


Uh Oh!!!

Widowmaker 07-23-2012 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 466281)
LOL, we already had this discussion remember?



I thought that was you !!!....lol........:*****:

Feesherman 07-23-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Widowmaker (Post 466291)
I thought that was you !!!....lol........:*****:


:)...........

Smoke Shack BBQ 07-23-2012 03:25 PM

Widow says the only way to get an arrow to fly straight is to use the pink Crush fletchings!:D Tiffany is the man.

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Bluechip 07-23-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoke Shack BBQ (Post 466362)
Widow says the only way to get an arrow to fly straight is to use the pink Crush fletchings!:D Tiffany is the man.

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Lol !!!!

jchief 07-23-2012 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoke Shack BBQ (Post 466362)
Widow says the only way to get an arrow to fly straight is to use the pink Crush fletchings!:D Tiffany is the man.

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Got to be a story here.

For those that don't know, Widow is a legend on another board and in his mind.












Really, damn good hunter.

Smoke Shack BBQ 07-23-2012 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchief (Post 466370)
Got to be a story here.

For those that don't know, Widow is a legend on another board and in his mind.












Really, damn good hunter.

And president of the Tiffany Lykoski fan club. He's obsessed!:beer::p

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Widowmaker 07-23-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoke Shack BBQ (Post 466387)
And president of the Tiffany Lykoski fan club. He's obsessed!:beer::p

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Yall just not rite !!!.....lol

lavocat 08-04-2012 03:30 PM

If you want a really big hole shoot a Slick Trick fixed head. Been shooting them for years. Have killed two ten pts and an eleven as well as several big Axis bucks with them. A blind man can follow the blood trail.

SquatchHunter 08-09-2012 02:00 PM

100g G5 cut big hole in deers all I used

BassAssasin 08-09-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lavocat (Post 472164)
If you want a really big hole shoot a Slick Trick fixed head. Been shooting them for years. Have killed two ten pts and an eleven as well as several big Axis bucks with them. A blind man can follow the blood trail.

X2 these are great! and they fly dang near like a field point. I picked up another pack yesterday at Bayouland

Bass2222 08-09-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lavocat (Post 472164)
If you want a really big hole shoot a Slick Trick fixed head. Been shooting them for years. Have killed two ten pts and an eleven as well as several big Axis bucks with them. A blind man can follow the blood trail.

About time someone mentioned these...flys like field points and leaves big holes even thru bone

Smoke Shack BBQ 08-09-2012 03:53 PM

Try the Exodus! Fixed head that flies like a field point and sharper and toughwr than any bh on the market! That's a fact Jack!!!

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adamsfence 08-10-2012 10:33 AM

nap came out with some new ones this year no oring so no mess ups.....i have always shot rage but thinking im going to switch cause the blades are always falling out on mine. i hate the orings

SHORT SHANK 08-23-2012 03:27 PM

Hey Chip the famous "what's the best broadhead" question is truley a can of worms to be opened! I've killed with several different broadhead and most recently Slick Trick 100 grain standards and never had to make any sight adjustments as they hit among my target tips. I shoot carbon express 220s, Bowtech Admiral at 59lbs with speeds near 300 fps. Everyone that has posted here has found themselves a lethal combination to sling at a deer. The most important thing is to make sure your broadhead is sharp and that you have confidence in it. Climb a tree, have fun and give em hell. I'll be looking for pictures of your first kill this year. Good luck Chip!
Oh, let us know what you decide to go with.

Vermillionaire 08-26-2012 09:50 PM

I've heard great things about rage, but it looks like I'm shooting the NAP killzone this year.

Bluechip 08-26-2012 09:51 PM

My head is spinning trying to decide I have talked myself in and out of about a half dozen broad heads so far.

I have to make the decision this week.

huntin fool 08-26-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 483379)
My head is spinning trying to decide I have talked myself in and out of about a half dozen broad heads so far.

I have to make the decision this week.

That makes two of us. Heading to the now shop first chance I get.


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