Conceal Carry vs Open Carry
 

I've had a ccl for over 15yrs and thank God have never had to pull my weapon. I live in Baton Rouge which has a "little" crime problem. I do not leave home with out a hand gun and usually a shotgun under the seat in my truck. When I grew up in the country every body had guns and guns did not make people nervous (hell we even had shotguns hanging in our back windows Of our trucks on school property in high school so we could go hunting after classes).
Now then to my point, I'm seriously considering open carry. It is our right in Louisiana and as we know, if you don't exercise and work to protect a right the libs want to take it away. People need to understand, guns are not the problem, mans evil heart is the problem. I believe only the Lord Jesus and scripture is the only thing that will change a man's heart.
I welcome you guys thoughts. It's still a free country (for now) we are all intitled to an opinion.

Only real problem I have with open carry is it draws attention to you if someone decides to get stupid and then you become a target by the bad guy.

most people dont realize that u can have open carry. but u can and most probably will be questioned by a cop if he sees u. and the cop can disarm u if he wants to esp if others are feeling uneasy and complaining. thats why i have ccl. draw less attention to urself.

I've been considering open carry too. Drawing attention is gonna happen for sure. Still unsure.

Not true. A cop can only legally confiscate a firearm if its suspected of being used in a crime.

That's one of the reasons keeping me from open carrying everywhere. I'd rather be the annonymus face in the crowd. That away if some dip$hit opened fire, I wouldn't be the first target..... Hopefully. It would give me a chance to reach my CCW without making it obvious and put that SOB down. Also, I know it would make people in public uneasy, as much as that bugs me that these liberals get all wound up when a law abiding citizen is exercising his right. For now I'll conceal.

So I can walk in Wal Mart with a 45 strap to my side

Unless the retailer has a sign posted at the front entrance "No Guns" the answer is YES! And for those that don't Beleive that you might ask the Gonzales Police Dept. how this issue worked out for them.

I do open carry at times. Example if I'm filling up with gas at a station alone at night or at Albertson's late at night.

I know the Wal Mart in Lafayette is posted No Guns Allowed. Also, the Mall and Buffalo Wild Wings. These are placeed that I refuse to go to unless it is the only option at the time. If I do go, I may or may not be carrying. The beauty of concealment!!

If you wil not support my right to carry a firearm, I will not support your business!

I too avoid retailers that deny my right to carry. Cabela's in Gonzales has a sign posted no open carry allowed but if you have a ccl you are permitted to carry concealed in the store. The only place I don't carry is at church, and I do feel uncomfortable without it. I can show you 2 churches within 20 miles of my house where mass killings occurred (I personally think the state should change this part of the ccl law). BTW if you do carry concealed weapon in a place that is prohibited and caught you could lose your permit.

I don't go to theaters. Most have "No Guns Allowed" posted in small print (you have to look hard to find it most times). Most have little to no security and as we all know by now people in a "gun free" zone are sitting ducks to a low life coward.

The only time I have seen anyone open carry was at a local coffee shop and this guy was about 150lb soaking wet and it looked like he had the biggest pistol he could find strapped on... kinda funny if I say so. I am going after first to take class for permit so I can not only feel safer for my family but also when we travel out of state and I just carry my gun in the car.

I'm aware. However I would rather take my chances with a judge than against an armed psych with only a knife and my boots. Chuck Norris might be able to, but not me. I bet those people in Aurora, Virgina Tech, and Conn. would feel the same way.

Churches
 

U.(1) The entity which owns the business or has authority over the administration of a church, synagogue, or mosque shall have the authority to authorize any person issued a valid concealed handgun permit as authorized by the provisions of this Section to carry a concealed handgun in the church, synagogue, or mosque.

(2) The provisions of this Subsection shall not be construed to limit or prohibit any church, synagogue, or mosque from employing armed security guards who are either certified law enforcement officers or who are authorized to carry concealed handguns pursuant to the provisions of this Section.

(3) If the church, synagogue, or mosque authorizes the carrying of concealed handguns as authorized by the provisions of this Subsection, the pastor, priest, minister, or other authority of the church, synagogue, or mosque shall inform the congregation of the authorization

I carry at the mall and Wal-Mart. I haven't seen signs at either. I'm not gonna go out and look for a 12 font word on a window 2" from the ground either. If worst come to worst and the sign is not conspicuous, LE will just ask you to respect the wishes of the establishment for you to leave. you don't want to do business with someone that doesn't respect your rights anyway. I haven't noticed a sign at WalMart on Pinhook. I suggest you talk to the manager of your WalMart and inform him that corporate policy is to follow the state law on conceal carry rights.

Kibb, in college I worked at the mall of Acadiana. The head of security said he would ban anyone he noticed carrying. He said if he sees it then you are brandishing your weapon. It came up when I asked him about a customer open carrying.

I'm speaking of CC. At most, I may print on accident. Printing isn't brandishing. Anyhow, if a business wants to ban me for carrying.

That's why he's security and not LE. He doesn't know what brandishing is.

Yea, I agree there is a difference between the two. He was a sheriffs officer for 25 years and was also the founder of crimestoppers so he says. I don't know much myself about CC, just telling you his opinion on it. I CC without a permit because it seems like the law isn't on your side if you use your gun to protect yourself permit or not.

Lousiana is an open carry state.... There is no brandishing laws as per my cc instructor.

im curious where???

This is the definition of brandishing:


Verb
Wave or flourish (something, esp. a weapon) as a threat or in anger or excitement.


Just because a person's gun shows doesn't mean he is brandishing it. However, one can still get arrested for brandishing if he does so according to the definition I posted.

Thanks....I wondered what that was.

I know one was here in Gonzales. Ol dude shorted out, walked in Sunday morning and killed his baby Momma and one or two of the kids.

I disagree a weapon in a holster is not "brandishing"

One small black church in Gonzales and one here in BTR.
I don't know the name of the streets but I damn sure could show you the bldgs. And don't forget the large church I think it was in Colorado Sprs where a women with a ccl stopped a massacre from happening just a couple of years ago.

Apparently, there was another shooting today in a movie theater somewhere along I-35. An off duty deputy shot the peep though. Saw it on YouTube via fb a few minutes ago.

Corey, you know I'm from Gonzales. The incident I remember happened on a Wed night and I think 7 innocent lives were taken.

I didn't see that in the definition.

Reread. We agree.

Sorry read it too fast:confused::confused:

Wrong on the days. If I remember correctly, it was somewhere around the time that I came here.

I carry in my truck. I put it on my lap when at ATM's, no matter where I am at, and with me when I fill up at gas stations in certain towns.
I have to drive thru NOLA at not so good times to get to work. I don't normally stop, but if I break down, I don't want to be a target for the uneducated democrats in that town that are too scared to take anyone on, 1 on 1. They have to carry a weapon and fight in groups, no matter who it is they are targeting.

My parents kept wanting to know what I wanted for Christmas....Remembered seeing a pic of this on here.

Ordered from Gum Creek. Around $35.
Minus the blue handgun lol...

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I keep mine hidden, where it is easy to get, until I stop somewhere that is not full of civic minded folks. Then it is in my lap.

That's normally what I do also but I'm going to see how I like this set up.

I like that holster under the steering wheel, but I'm not sure if I would use it. With that strap going all the way around the column, it would scream "Break these windows and see whats in here". I think I'd have to remove it every time I parked and I'm sure I would get too lazy to do that after some time.

Understood.....most of my time is on the road from hotel to hotel, so I'm used to unloading GPS, radar detector, etc.... And I don't really like the strap either but I think it will be worth the trade for accessibility.

I will give a report in a few months on pros and cons.

I definately know the pro's of getting a ccl, anybody got any con's? Been thinkin hard lately about gettin mine, and would love to hear some feedback

I wasn't doubting you, just curious I don't remember hearing bout that but my fiancé says I have selective hearing :spineyes:

Open carry makes you a target. Not just for violence, but for false accusations. If it's legal and they can't cause trouble for you just mentioning that you had a holstered firearm, they will improve their account to the point where you did something illegal with the gun. And the better a look they have at your firearm, the more believable their story will be. It is unlikely that anyone will falsely accuse you of brandishing or assault if they are not even sure you are armed and cannot describe the gun. A lot of people fear guns and gun owners and will embellish an account if needed to get an honest gun owner in trouble.

I carry, without a ccl.
I only have the gun for protection.
I don't care about a ccl.