What is up with these schools??? No tolerance!
 

I'm pretty pissed right now, my son was involved in a fight last week, he was hit first! He gets suspended for three days and has to go to NP MOSS for those days.

My question is can you not defend yourself anymore???????

To top it off I have to have him there @ 8 A/M I live in Youngsville this is absolutely ridiculous!!!

That's a crock of shiot!

Its the same way here in texas. Its stupid. If someone comes up and jumps me. What do they want us to do??? Just sit there and take it. To the hell with that, if someones touches me they are gonna get their a$$ kicked. What happen to the old days?

The wife and I spoke with the principal, it's not up to the school "school board laws" I'm not a happy camper!!!

Back in my day yadayadayada?????

Yep, i've been dealing with it too, they even assign a board to determine if you are a good parent or not, has nothing to do with how i raise my kids, but if they are involved with anything at school it's not a good thing...treating our kiddo's worst than a common criminal..

Same here.......I always told my 2, if someone else started it you better finish it & you better get your moneys worth! Make that 3 days worth it! They did a time or 2 & word got around real quick, never had another problem with other peoples kids:smokin:

Wt said it right. If they didn't start it, pat em on the back. It's aggrevating but, not nearly as bad as seeing kids, especially your own getting pushed around!

Yep, everyone gets punished........and everyone gets a trophy............

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I got a closet full of them trophies, i coached my boys little league one year, they told me I had to give all the kids trophies, we were horrible, think we lost every game, i refused to reward them being so bad...needless to say they don't let me coach anymore! Ha..

I once gave a game ball to a kid for having a great game, other parents complained cause their kids were upset they didn't get a game ball, I got a call from the Leauge informing I couldn't do that anymore, if one got it they all got it...Ha..

When I was in school, which wasn't very long ago, no matter if you threw the first punch or recieved both parties were considered "involved" and a "disruption" to the surrounding students. I personally think it is a crock of poopoo.

But I do understand the message they are trying to teach. That voilence is not always the answer. Resolve your problems another way. I also think that have the child's future in mind. You want to send a message that in society it is unacceptable and punishment will be much worse.

tha'ts why my son goes to private school.... I work 7 days a week to do it, but he is not under the stupid rules of public schools!! He's been a school fight before, Both sets of parents got called in. they explained what happened, and the kid that started it got punished and the other was told next time find a teacher instead of fighting back.... they are actually friends today!

It is important to teach kids to always defend themselves, but ask any Concealed Carry holder can tell you, you can go from victim to aggressor quick in an altercation. Teaching someone to "finish" a fight they didn't start can get them in trouble later in life. I don't disagree with it on a personal level, but speaking in legal terms, you can be held liable for it.

Been there - done that! Mine was bullied for 6 mos by a democrat and picked on that went unchecked even after complaining to all the superior democrats. Finally one day, he got slapped behind the head, turned around and broke the democrats nose with a right cross, and had to be pulled off him. Got 3 days even though the principal said the kid had it coming.

I took some time off and we fished for 3 days!!!!!!!!! The system is flawed and we all know it, but it won't ever change!

Man i so agree with you on this one. I coach as well. Kids today don't know what losing is. Don't know how to handle losing. Its a life skill that is important to learn and being "lost".

That's sad my kids know that if someone starts it to finish it

Bub, doubled one up last week walking out of one of his classes. It had been going on for several weeks but he stopped it right in front of the teacher. Teacher told the aggressor he finally discovered that dynamite came in small packages.:smokin: The rule has been in place for over 30 yrs, I know first hand.

Sad but due to society so violent they have to treat every situation the same.
People today rather use guns that fist or learn to talk it out.

Back in 1970's when I moved from Louisiana with my parents to California there was boxing gyms for kids on every corner. I joined a gym to make friends and learned hard lesson about life. This was the first thing my trainer told me. "Life will hit you hard. Winners get back up to take the next punch and hit back harder." Boxing taught me how to train, protect myself, and gave me pride in myself. I learned what I did wrong when I lost matches to come back and win the next match.
Learned self control, but learned how to take care of myself when bully messed with me. Pride and confidence gave me the courage to not back down to bullies and try to talk it out.

When fight with weapons instead of fist or give awards to everyone instead of winners you are not teaching anyone anything. Developing a generation failures.

when I was in elementary, I got suspended several times for fighting, the principle told my dad if someone hits your son, and he shove, hits back or even touched them he better beat them down and win because the punishment is the same if he wins or loses the fight! Dad looked at me and said well you get in another fight and don't win your getting another beating when you get home! later on when I got in high school, we keep our fights off school property with some boxing gloves and everyone with a car would drive to a certain spot, we'd fight till someone's lights were knocked out or till you were soo worn out you quit. only problem with that was someone would call the cops. so we figured out how to use a police scanner to scram if they were called and we never fought at someone's house.

They tolerate what they want to tolerate by pretending not to notice: drugs, sex, porn, etc.

I once got into trouble (as a high school teacher) for reporting students drug use to their parents and recommending some home drug testing.

A lot of local schools close their eyes to electronic misbehavior (sending and receiving sexual text messages and nude pics), sex at school, smoking, etc.

It is appalling what schools tolerate. And then when there is something they are really concerned with liability over, they feign zero tolerance and suspend all the participants without any due consideration to the true nature of the conflict.

Homeschooling is always an option because the values and tolerance can relfect the values of the parents rather than the warped values of the liberals in charge of the school district. And trust me, the values of the district are always liberal. My daughter got a "disciplinary action report" in one of the (supposedly) most conservative schools in a conservative district because she dared to wear a red armband supporting a prolife message.

Trust me, they are not really trying to teach your children math, english, history, and science. They are trying to impart their warped values.

If you let the other kid sit on you and beat you down, and you do nothing, you still get suspended.
Happened to my nephew. He didn't fight cause he didn't want to get suspended. Then he got suspended. So, when school got out that afternoon, my nephew went and found the kid and it was one on one, no teachers, no suspension.

I think school needs to go back to being schools and maybe the kids would learn something.
Teaching basics reading, writing, math, P.E., and throw in electives.
All parents need to be involved in their childs educations like in 1970's not just a few parents.
Cell phones need to stay out of school.
Kids need to learn to walk over and talk to their friends in person that are 50 ft away.

Kids need to learn how to win and lose and how to do better to win the next time.
I almost won regional science fair for breeding rabbits, but won kodak picture tells the story award. Had a good idea, but some people didn't like the sexual part of it even though I did it for an agricultural reason. I failed by not having enough rabbits that I bread to get an average birth rate of baby rabbits. I gave it a good fight and some judges came up to congraduate me after the event. I learned from my shortcomings getting more chickens to get average result to win next year breeding chickens.

I improved and won by learning from my shortcomings. That what we need to teach kids.

Link to the studies? I am an educator and would definately like to read them.

Well yesterday was his first of three and guess what there was a fight. The two boys were taken away in handcuffs.

Why does he have to attend NP Moss? Is it some sort of alternative school now?

Yes I think they call it TLS???? three day suspension.

If the other kid started it, go to his house and beat his dad's ***.
Tell him every time his kid gets your kid suspended, he will get an *** whuppin too.
Sooner or later the dad will stop his kid from hitting your kid.

That may be the best answer I've gotten so far!

This was a first time problem " as of now" if it happens again that is going to be the next step I take!!

Man, so many issues in schools, my kid was denied food today because the account was in default by a week. We turned in lunch money and the teacher had it, wife had to go to school tell them the teacher had it, and she had several checks, who knows how many kids also did without food.

At least I am a responsible parent, NOT collecting welfare and free school lunch and pay in a timely manner.

Got to love New Iberia Elementary Public Schools.

With all the tax money we pay and all the free loaders in this country there is no reason to deny any kid food in school even if they have to make a record to collect later

I feel you bro it happens to us all the time!! We pay 3 months at a time and every now and then they call and say the boys have no funds in there account????

My youngest one doesn't eat everyday because of the BROWN RICE ACT so the wife makes him lunch, and we still get charged???

Next year I think private school is the answer...

Send him to a good strick Catholic school. I know around here they don't put up with any crap and the moral education is worth the price alone.

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I've had pros and cons around here gonna way our options...

I did not give all the details, but to and 8 year old girl???? WOW

This occurred at Daspit Elementary, New Iberia, and Darla David, the Principle is in charge.

I will attempt to resolve this matter tomorrow.

Update on this...

Come to find out a canadian has been fn with my boy since last year. Taking cash and electronics. My son didn't want to get in trouble again ie: np moss, so he's put up with it and didn't let us know until tonight. The wife and I are going to the school in the morning to get to the bottom of this!

Is this not breeding BULLYING?? This kid is considerably bigger than my boy but he ain't scared. He just doesn't want to get kicked out of school.

What would be a reasonable responce from my Salty Cajun nation??

Thanks guys!

Shove their liberal agenda up their azz....


No don't prob won't get you far....

Whip his dads ***...if he knows him! In all reality, you have to teach your kids to stand on their own, win, lose or, draw. It may cost me 3-4 school districts some day but, its an expense I'm willing to absorb. The world will NOT wait on the passive.

If i was defending myself ,dad always took me fishing on my 3 day holiday. If not i got an azz whuppin i couldn't fight my way out of.

Go to the school board, if that doesnt help. Go to the kids parents. If that doesnt help either... Then i say use your imagination. A group of kids will do just about anything for $20.... Seen it happen plenty of times. But i would definitely try to be civil and handle it without violence, but some need to learn the hard way

I'm with u guys that's what I want him to do!!!!beat the sh1t out of him and be DONE, that can't happen now. If he gets into another fight he's ( my son ) is kicked out! Fuc n RIDICULOUS!!!!!!

I like the way you think Cody!!!!

Take your son and, find that kid outside of school. School can do nothing off site. Prepare to see something that may not please you but, give him a shot, if you're worried about your son being expelled.

A very dear friend and, one of the most vicious people I know was made that way because his dad was tired of politics. He put his in front of his peers who once picked on him and, it was downhill from there. I never saw him not make someone not go to sleep after that boost of confidence.

I agree with southern. Catch him outside of school.

I'm gonna take a pick of this kidds home he ain't,in what's called a stable place??

Don't go to the kids house. Gotta be somewhere in between. Get ready because your son may not be the victor but, his message will be made clear. Chances are, if your son really has had enough, he will whip the boy so bad that the boy in question will never taunt him again, no matter how rough he has grown up.

I know what you mean!

If ya want, I'll put you on the phone with my friend, Parker. A little background. He's a white boy, with a white boys name that grew up on an indian reservation. It's not well received where we are from. He could tell you exactly how it all played out and, I can promise you, you'll never meet a nicer but, more vicious man than him. I've never seen him not hurt someone that put him there and, it started as a child being jumped and beat up by those who thought they could do it to him.

Even if he gets one good lick in, the bully is likely to move on. Most are just lazy and want someone who iseasy and dont.think will fight back but one good punch and they'll more than likely move on To someone else who isnt gonna hit back. It isnt any fun for them after that

This^^^^^ is a great post.

What school? You can PM me if you want.....I had it out multiple times witb a school here in town. I am done! My little man is going private.