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fishinpox 03-18-2013 10:02 PM

snapper
 
all this new state water has got a honkey confused! when does snapper season begin?? what is the limit , is there a diffrent limit under 10..... miles out and a diffrent limit/ season 10+ miles out?? freaking confusing ...

eman 03-18-2013 10:14 PM

State says one thing. feds say another. Who do you trust ?

meaux fishing 03-18-2013 10:17 PM

State season opens this weekend, the 23rd, on the weekends only. It will be open Friday through Sunday every weekend until Labor Day. It is only in state waters which Louisiana just passed a resolution they extended to nine nautical miles. However the federal government has not approved the resolution yet and so technically state waters is still three nautical miles. I think the state limit is three snapper with the same 16 inch minimum.

Dink 03-19-2013 06:17 AM

I wouldn't go unless I made a trip to WLF office and got confirmation from someone that knows. And I'd want it in writing!

meaux fishing 03-19-2013 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dink (Post 561487)
I wouldn't go unless I made a trip to WLF office and got confirmation from someone that knows. And I'd want it in writing!

http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/saltwater-finfish-seasons

Unless you run into a federal GW I think you will be ok because the state is recognizing 3 marine leauges/9 nautical miles/ 10.357 miles

http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/news/35570

cajun bill 03-19-2013 09:44 AM

LDWF info
 
I attended the La. Sportsman show this weekend in Gonzales (awesome show by the way) and I visited the LDWF booth. I posed this question to the two enforcement officers there and the answer I got was "Clintonian" as in "it depends on what the definition of is is". Both said that they closely work with the feds and if they were with a fed officer and the fed officer wanted to write someone a ticket, they would write them a ticket in spite of what the state laws say. IOW, "you buy yo ticket, you takes your chances".:pissed:

Mako19 03-19-2013 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cajun bill (Post 561566)
I attended the La. Sportsman show this weekend in Gonzales (awesome show by the way) and I visited the LDWF booth. I posed this question to the two enforcement officers there and the answer I got was "Clintonian" as in "it depends on what the definition of is is". Both said that they closely work with the feds and if they were with a fed officer and the fed officer wanted to write someone a ticket, they would write them a ticket in spite of what the state laws say. IOW, "you buy yo ticket, you takes your chances".:pissed:

I have heard this same thing from several captains.

"It depends if you get pulled over by a state or federal Game Warden."

That is pretty jacked up! The state and feds need to get their **** together!

YellaBlazer 03-19-2013 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cajun bill (Post 561566)
I attended the La. Sportsman show this weekend in Gonzales (awesome show by the way) and I visited the LDWF booth. I posed this question to the two enforcement officers there and the answer I got was "Clintonian" as in "it depends on what the definition of is is". Both said that they closely work with the feds and if they were with a fed officer and the fed officer wanted to write someone a ticket, they would write them a ticket in spite of what the state laws say. IOW, "you buy yo ticket, you takes your chances".:pissed:

I talked to 2 agents at the show on Friday. The head guy there said the only "safe" boundary is the current 3 mile mark. Anything outside that, you risk getting a ticket.

IslandRunner 03-19-2013 12:46 PM

I spoke to a GW friend who stated they (state gws) will be working the state waters to 10 miles out, but the US Coast Guard and the Feds will being work 3 miles out.

capt hoop 03-19-2013 01:45 PM

Meaux fishing that is NOT nine miles the state is looking for. It is 3 leagues which in nautical terms is 10.357 miles out. We want it for fishing but congress is not wanting to give up that land due to oil rights and revenues. As it stands right now (leagly) we have a weekend only season with a 3 fish per person limit out to 3 miles for snapper starting on March 23rd.

NOAA has to go.

swamp snorkler 03-19-2013 01:49 PM

Just get a faster boat than the feds

Dink 03-19-2013 02:13 PM

If farther than 3 miles, hide the snapper under your cocaine???

swamp snorkler 03-19-2013 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dink (Post 561663)
If farther than 3 miles, hide the snapper under your cocaine???


Good Idea

Lake Chuck Duck 03-19-2013 03:22 PM

The title of this thread is misleading...

simplepeddler 03-19-2013 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 561699)
The title of this thread is misleading...

my thoughts......

Montauk17 03-20-2013 02:30 PM

Capt. Tommy Pellegrin has been guiding recreational anglers to red-snapper catches for 21 years, but his season won't get started this weekend when the state says he's welcome to fish.

"I won't be fishing red snapper because I couldn't talk any federal judges into getting on my boat with me," he said.


http://www.nola.com/outdoors/index.s...r_anglers.html

Finfeatherfur 03-20-2013 06:38 PM

Not many sure bets in life - but you can bet your butt some feds will be writing tickets this weekend. DHS boats have been trailered in from Texas and MS. They are PO'ed that LA has thumbed their noses, so all I can say is sign the tickets and say "see ya' in court".

simplepeddler 03-20-2013 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 562241)
Not many sure bets in life - but you can bet your butt some feds will be writing tickets this weekend. DHS boats have been trailered in from Texas and MS. They are PO'ed that LA has thumbed their noses, so all I can say is sign the tickets and say "see ya' in court".


That makes some pretty good sense......it's just damn shame the sportsman has to suffer for all these penil challenged government schmucks

jchief 03-21-2013 12:15 PM

Louisiana Offers Further Clarification
on 2013 Red Snapper Season

The Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries takes the bold action to move forward with a Louisiana-only recreational red snapper season.

The Louisiana-only Season
Beginning this Saturday, March 23, Louisiana will implement a weekend-only recreational red snapper season that will end on September 30, with a recreational bag limit of three fish per day at a 16-inch minimum.

A weekend is defined as Friday, Saturday and Sunday, with the exception of Memorial Day and Labor Day, when Monday will be classified as a weekend day as well.

“One day we will look back on today’s actions and see them as a historic move for Louisiana recreational anglers and for our abundant natural resources,” said LDWF Secretary Robert Barham. “No longer will we sit idly by, as our fates are determined by someone with so little understanding of our fisheries and a refusal to negotiate. Whether their actions are ones of arrogance or fear, we join our Gulf neighbors in Texas and Florida, who implemented similar state-by-state regulations today, in standing up to NOAA and showing them that their strong-arm tactics will not work on us.”

LDWF Secretary Robert Barham was given the authority to modify the portions of this rule pertaining to red snapper recreational daily harvest limits and season if NOAA instituted sub-regional management for the species or if it is otherwise deemed necessary.

“Louisiana’s recreational fishing community has spoken and we have listened,” said LDWF Assistant Secretary Randy Pausina, head of fisheries for Louisiana. “In this unprecedented move, our department is challenging the recommendations set by NOAA through the National Marine Fisheries Service. Our actions may seem rogue, but I assure you we have not entered into this lightly or without great thought. We plan to conduct our own research, analysis and make our own decisions on what is best for Louisiana anglers and our resource. For years the wishes of our anglers have fallen on deaf ears… that ends now.”

The Louisiana Gulfward Boundary
In June 2012 the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission took action to extend Louisiana state waters from three miles offshore to three marine leagues or approximately 10.357 miles.

LDWF officials encourage fishermen to use caution and their own personal judgment when fishing beyond the three mile boundary that is currently recognized as federal waters, as it is fully expected that federal agents will continue to enforce federal law. Until the time when the US Congress confirms Louisiana’s action, the battle will continue over Louisiana’s state water boundary.

The Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries is charged with managing and protecting Louisiana’s abundant resources. For more information, visit their website at www.wlf.louisiana.gov or follow them on Facebook at www.facebook.com/ldwffb or follow them on Twitter @LDWF.


CCA Louisiana | P.O. Box 86458 | Baton Rouge, LA 70879 | p 225.952.9200 | f 225.952.9204

adamsfence 03-21-2013 12:25 PM

he said what was really on his mind didn't he

meaux fishing 03-21-2013 01:21 PM

just a reminder... anybody that does decide to go make sure you and everybody in your boat has an offshore landing permit. It is free

Dink 03-21-2013 04:14 PM

In other words.......fish out to 10 miles, and if you see a fed boat, hope you can outrun him to the 3 mile line???

Montauk17 03-21-2013 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dink (Post 562587)
In other words.......fish out to 10 miles, and if you see a fed boat, hope you can outrun him to the 3 mile line???

They will catch you....most of the feds boats have triple or quad engines.

meaux fishing 03-21-2013 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montauk17 (Post 562603)
They will catch you....most of the feds boats have triple or quad engines.

Yeah that one in Venice runs like 75

Dink 03-21-2013 04:52 PM

It'll be an adventure.....like crossing the loop! Full throttle and pray!!!! Lol!!

Montauk17 03-21-2013 04:53 PM

I would pay good money to watch Tim try to outrun them with a single 150. LMAO

T-Bone 03-21-2013 05:07 PM

It's all about that deep V eh Dink. Catch me if u can!!! Ha

hubcap28 03-21-2013 09:45 PM

The Feds this weekend will be handing out flyers and warnings. Next weekend on the otherhand the Feds are still waiting on guidance. Only safe catch will be within the 3mi boundary

ike84 03-22-2013 09:46 PM

Has anyone ever been checked by a federal game warden?

Some of the state gw boats say state/federal but they are state. Ive never seen a federal gw but i dont go offshore that much.

meaux fishing 03-22-2013 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ike84 (Post 563061)
Has anyone ever been checked by a federal game warden?

Some of the state gw boats say state/federal but they are state. Ive never seen a federal gw but i dont go offshore that much.

There isn't very many of em

capt hoop 03-23-2013 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ike84 (Post 563061)
Has anyone ever been checked by a federal game warden?

Some of the state gw boats say state/federal but they are state. Ive never seen a federal gw but i dont go offshore that much.

I have been checked a few times by them. One day when I only had one redfish on board they did not believe me and they went through all my compartments, opened and looked inside my access hatch and even went inside one of my bean bags. When the foam pellets started flying out I told him that was enough BS. Point proven! My boat was banked in a spot all day while my people surveyed an island. I just casted from the boat when I got bored and one redfish, 23 inches, got stupid. That fish was in the drink cooler on ice and I showed them it right off.

Super Spook 03-25-2013 11:26 AM

Looks like we got a pissing contest going on.
http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/story/...044380yahbhswz

jpeff31787 03-25-2013 12:37 PM

the most effed thing ever! Feds say 3 miles, state says go catch them up to 10 but go at your own risk. So stupid!!!

jpeff31787 03-25-2013 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt hoop (Post 563291)
I have been checked a few times by them. One day when I only had one redfish on board they did not believe me and they went through all my compartments, opened and looked inside my access hatch and even went inside one of my bean bags. When the foam pellets started flying out I told him that was enough BS. Point proven! My boat was banked in a spot all day while my people surveyed an island. I just casted from the boat when I got bored and one redfish, 23 inches, got stupid. That fish was in the drink cooler on ice and I showed them it right off.


what?!?!?! I think I may have lost it when he looked inside of the damn bean bag!

capt hoop 03-27-2013 05:12 PM

That is when I told him he proved a point and it was enough of his B.S. That being said I know of a captain that got caught hiding them inside his bean bags. He did get a ticket.

cmac23 04-01-2013 08:33 PM

The Feds have the coast guard checking boats for snapper.

http://www.nola.com/outdoors/index.s...anglers_g.html


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