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juicegoose 03-10-2014 12:17 PM

Structurescan & Big Lake?
 
I've heard a lot of people talk about how structurescan technology is useless for shallow water fishing. A lot of times they are talking super skinny water. Does anyone use it on big lake and feel it's worth the cost? If you use it where do you find it most usefull? is it usable in say turners?

jpeff31787 03-10-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by juicegoose (Post 671080)
I've heard a lot of people talk about how structurescan technology is useless for shallow water fishing. A lot of times they are talking super skinny water. Does anyone use it on big lake and feel it's worth the cost? If you use it where do you find it most usefull? is it usable in say turners?

yeah, i think thats B.S. For an example take a look at the Elite Pros, they were fishing in 2' of water and locating ditches with their structure scan. I'd say it would be tremendous help any where.

juicegoose 03-10-2014 01:12 PM

Im sure the cone will be more narrow but im like you jpeff it has to help some. But not owning it or having used it i dont know.

"W" 03-10-2014 01:17 PM

IMO waist for big lake

jpeff31787 03-10-2014 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by juicegoose (Post 671096)
Im sure the cone will be more narrow but im like you jpeff it has to help some. But not owning it or having used it i dont know.

yeah.. I've never used it either, but for locating reefs or other structures, I think it would be sweet! When you're in deeper water say in the channel or at the rigs, or beaches, I would think it would help find where the fish are. I really dont know though. I'm getting one on my next boat, I can promise you that! No point in putting it on what I have now, it would be worth more than my boat lol

jpeff31787 03-10-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 671098)
IMO waist for big lake

really?? Have you used one before? Not sarcastic, truly curious. Wouldn't help find reef and different bottom contours? I've used like the industrial side scanners for the work I do, and I can see all kinds of neat things, but we are usually in deeper than 10' of water. I can still locate fish with it.

Top Dawg 03-10-2014 01:23 PM

Most of the time u can see a reef on a regular depth finder. Also find fish at rigs with regular finders. Structure scans are pretty cool tho

Duck Butter 03-10-2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeff31787 (Post 671100)
really?? Have you used one before? Not sarcastic, truly curious. Wouldn't help find reef and different bottom contours? I've used like the industrial side scanners for the work I do, and I can see all kinds of neat things, but we are usually in deeper than 10' of water. I can still locate fish with it.

its a waist of time if water less than waste deep water, there are weigh better things to spend money on #25orbust

- W

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jpeff31787 03-10-2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 671102)
Most of the time u can see a reef on a regular depth finder. Also find fish at rigs with regular finders. Structure scans are pretty cool tho

Of course you can, once you are on top of them with your boat. Lol

Pros use these things in 2' of water and they are able to find structure and ditches.... Best advice I have lol.

My conclusion is if you are trying to find structure to fish without running on top of it, get the side imaging. It would also help keeping your boat at the right distance away from it.

"W" 03-10-2014 01:38 PM

I fish with 6' 8 rods and can feel the bottom in every spot and reef.on the lake!!

Most good fisherman find fish by looking at the surface not the bottom

BassYakR 03-10-2014 01:54 PM

In freshwater fishing yes they are a tremendous help. But on biglake there no use for them really. Like W said 90% of fish are found by looking at the surface of the water not the bottom.

jchief 03-10-2014 02:08 PM

They work on Big Lake.

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BaseballFisherman 03-10-2014 02:12 PM

I've never used structurescan, but I do occasionally use the side imaging feature on my humminbird. I've been using it for a couple years now and I have found a few reefs in big lake and sabine lake while using it. I will admit though, I don't aimlessly drive around with my side scan on and hope I find something. While in shallow water, I usually see something on the surface that draws my attention to check it out with side imaging. For instance, a slick. I'll see a slick in the middle of big lake, catch fish on it, then check out my side imaging and see if the fish are holding on a reef there or if they are just feeding on moving bait. If there is indeed a reef, I'm able to mark it in detail because of the accuracy that my side imaging affords me. Mostly, I've been able to dial in the reefs I already like to fish and now I understand them better by being able to see them in photo quality. Same goes for some of the deeper water spots I fish. I don't know how structure scan will work in shallow water, but I do like my side imaging. Do I absolutely need it? No. Am I glad I have it? Definitely. Do I use it? Occasionally...I find myself fishing in more new water now that I have it and I've learned a lot since I bought it. I know you're talking structurescan and my experience is only with sidescan, but they both do similar things. Just thought I would chip in my 2 cents

jpeff31787 03-10-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BaseballFisherman (Post 671119)
I've never used structurescan, but I do occasionally use the side imaging feature on my humminbird. I've been using it for a couple years now and I have found a few reefs in big lake and sabine lake while using it. I will admit though, I don't aimlessly drive around with my side scan on and hope I find something. While in shallow water, I usually see something on the surface that draws my attention to check it out with side imaging. For instance, a slick. I'll see a slick in the middle of big lake, catch fish on it, then check out my side imaging and see if the fish are holding on a reef there or if they are just feeding on moving bait. If there is indeed a reef, I'm able to mark it in detail because of the accuracy that my side imaging affords me. Mostly, I've been able to dial in the reefs I already like to fish and now I understand them better by being able to see them in photo quality. Same goes for some of the deeper water spots I fish. I don't know how structure scan will work in shallow water, but I do like my side imaging. Do I absolutely need it? No. Am I glad I have it? Definitely. Do I use it? Occasionally...I find myself fishing in more new water now that I have it and I've learned a lot since I bought it. I know you're talking structurescan and my experience is only with sidescan, but they both do similar things. Just thought I would chip in my 2 cents

BOOM! Helpful!

jpeff31787 03-10-2014 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 671109)
I fish with 6' 8 rods and can feel the bottom in every spot and reef.on the lake!!

Most good fisherman find fish by looking at the surface not the bottom

Of course you can find fish and reefs by looking at the surface, but you have to have water or fish moving to find them-or cast upon them with only your amazing spectacular helium filled waterloos-, but if you have the technology you can find inactive fish and maybe activate them and you'll definitely be able to see the bottom's contour and help locate new areas. From my experience with the down imaging and the side scan that we use at work along with opinions of others, I think the structure scan will enable you to catch more fish-unless your W and already know the location of every reef and fish in the entire lake apparently. Lol

"W" 03-10-2014 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeff31787 (Post 671124)
Of course you can find fish and reefs by looking at the surface, but you have to have water or fish moving to find them-or cast upon them with only your amazing spectacular helium filled waterloos-, but if you have the technology you can find inactive fish and maybe activate them and you'll definitely be able to see the bottom's contour and help locate new areas. From my experience with the down imaging and the side scan that we use at work along with opinions of others, I think the structure scan will enable you to catch more fish-unless your W and already know the location of every reef and fish in the entire lake apparently. Lol

LMAO dude no side image will make you catch more fish!! I promise you can have all that dumb crap in your boat and still don't mean you can catch fish!


Sorry I guess I'm not cool because I don't need to see ever bump or hump in water

jpeff31787 03-10-2014 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 671128)
LMAO dude no side image will make you catch more fish!! I promise you can have all that dumb crap in your boat and still don't mean you can catch fish!


Sorry I guess I'm not cool because I don't need to see ever bump or hump in water

I'm just trying to say that the technology is definitely useful and to think its useless is ignorant, plus it's a blast to use.

Duck Butter 03-10-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 671128)
LMAO dude no side image will make you catch more fish!! I promise you can have all that dumb crap in your boat and still don't mean you can catch fish!


Sorry I guess I'm not cool because I don't need to see ever bump or hump in water

do you have a depth finder in your boat?

"W" 03-10-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 671133)
do you have a depth finder in your boat?

Yea a 6'8 Waterloo

Duck Butter 03-10-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 671134)
Yea a 6'8 Waterloo

:rotfl:

"W" 03-10-2014 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeff31787 (Post 671130)
I'm just trying to say that the technology is definitely useful and to think its useless is ignorant, plus it's a blast to use.

I'm pretty sure it's cool as hell but to say it will help you catch more fish is not not true..

Goooh 03-10-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 671136)
I'm pretty sure it's cool as hell but to say it will help you catch more fish is not not true..


Boats don't help you catch fish either




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meaux fishing 03-10-2014 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 671149)
Boats don't help you catch fish either




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It's way easier to catch fish out of them in some spots though.

Goooh 03-10-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 671150)
It's way easier to catch fish out of them in some spots though.


I will agree with this.

But motors are stupid


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jpeff31787 03-10-2014 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 671136)
I'm pretty sure it's cool as hell but to say it will help you catch more fish is not not true..

Well I'm not saying it will catch the fish for you, but it can help find them.

Clampy 03-10-2014 05:15 PM

It's prolly useless in BL unless you looking for stuff in the channel in late summer. I'm getting it on mine. I bass fish enough to justify it. Plus if prolly get it anyway it's pretty sweet.


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alphaman 03-10-2014 05:59 PM

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Ill be heading that way soon. maybe tomorrow morning. Ill get some pics of the lake, ship channel etc. I think its awasome. You could scan a whole reef at 1 time. Identify where the bait is etc. You find hard and soft bottom with very easy

Here are a few henderson pics. Bait ball cypress tree. Grass on the bottom.
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Crankbait36 03-10-2014 06:30 PM

I use mine all the time but I only fish Toledo Bend and I love it! Shallow or deep I am constantly finding things with it that I wouldn't have without it on!

Montauk17 03-10-2014 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 671151)
I will agree with this.

But motors are stupid


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LOL

meaux fishing 03-10-2014 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 671151)
I will agree with this.

But motors are stupid


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agreed

Goooh 03-10-2014 08:50 PM

$6.00 and a box of envelopes says W will have structure scan by 2018, and will preach of it's awesomeness...


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"W" 03-10-2014 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 671189)
$6.00 and a box of envelopes says W will have structure scan by 2018, and will preach of it's awesomeness...


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Dude I have a Loweranc that I can barley work!! ...

Clampy 03-10-2014 09:01 PM

^^ that's why I'm going humminbird. Little more user friendly.


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juicegoose 03-10-2014 09:24 PM

Yall seen the new touchscreen hummingbird. Saweeet!!!

Clampy 03-11-2014 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by juicegoose (Post 671196)
Yall seen the new touchscreen hummingbird. Saweeet!!!


It's touch screen or buttons. Pretty nice.


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alphaman 03-11-2014 08:15 AM

I can say. I had to do my homework in order to learn how to operate my hds 7 touch. I read to the owners manual a few times, Just to make sure I was didn't miss anything!

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juicegoose 03-11-2014 09:27 AM

It seems the touch screens just are easier to work with. You find this to be true?

alphaman 03-11-2014 10:10 AM

IMO Yes the touch screens are very easy to navigate though compared to hummingbirds buttons. But the learning curve for lowrance is not as easy as hummingbird.

My lowrance has a drop down menus and it 1 touch sub menus.

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wishin i was fishin 03-11-2014 12:19 PM

great comments Baseball. I use mine in V Bay. what i have found is that most of the area i fish is structureless. it does work better in deeper water such as canals and those deep holes. and my occasional trips to Toledo.

like B ball i will find areas on a map or be drawn to them by something visual, then make a few passes. I also use it when we pull up to a platform, I will circle it to find out if fish are around and where the bait and fish are holding.

nice, yes, if you have the funds, go for it, but its not a magic bullet, but it helps. Like W is hinting to, technology will not replace talent.

Humminbird vs. Lowrance

Humminbird = ease of use
Lowrance = performance, but you have to read the manual a few times. They are powerful unit.

fishwater 03-11-2014 01:24 PM

I use my structure scan a lot. But I do not use the side imaging much. I split my screen to regular sonar and down imaging to find drop off mostly. I can't catch fish with or without it but it is cool to have.

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Clampy 03-11-2014 01:55 PM

http://youtu.be/T3rNQ43BRII



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Clampy 03-11-2014 01:55 PM

http://youtu.be/Mj9MIVWJlY8


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