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mikedatiger 03-15-2010 01:06 PM

Recommendations for Next Year
 
Asides from gale force winds, I think that the tourney turned out great, and it definitely looks like this is going to be an annual charity event.

Don't want this to turn into a gripe session but please throw out any CONSTRUCTIVE recommendations you might have so that we can plan for next year. I know it's early but the one lesson I learned is that you can never be too early with regards to sponsorships so we'll get on the ball with that.

I think the plan is to have next year's event at Hebert's especially since the new restaurant/facility will be open at the launch.

So with that, let the recommendations begin.

Reel Bender 03-15-2010 01:22 PM

Yeah, plan it for my spring break again next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,

I'll get back to you on the date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:grinpimp:

Big Flounder 03-15-2010 02:01 PM

My boss said if I would have told him a little sooner," I did tell him sooner but he had to many beers between that time frame" we can help out more. You know maybe with the cooking, baits, rods, or gift cards or whatever. All I need is time, place, and date and I'm in!

Dink 03-15-2010 02:05 PM

Women should wear name tags saying who their husband is....................Sorry again D.........

goldenrod 03-15-2010 02:07 PM

:eek::eek::eek::confused:

Reel Bender 03-15-2010 02:35 PM

What difference does it make who the hubby is?

"W" 03-15-2010 02:36 PM

Need to have it 4 or 5 days before full moon in April or May

bay_slayer 03-15-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dink (Post 126779)
Women should wear name tags saying who their husband is....................Sorry again D.........


:*****::*****::*****::*****::help:

Nasty 03-15-2010 05:12 PM

Move it a month later... like in April.

exspeck big specks 03-15-2010 06:33 PM

Did not like being able to sighn up in advance at first,but it did put everyone on a even keel- even though when I pulled in the cove we fished there were 3 boats already!!!

March is not bad, 24hrs before or after Saturday and that tourney weight board would have looked completely different!! That hard NW along with the temp drop locked there jaws up.... Feb-May is perfect any weekend..

evis102 03-15-2010 10:24 PM

If that southeast wind would have held till Sat. there would have been some 20lb+ stringers for sure. Everyone having to leave the launch at the same time puts the guys with small boats behind right off the bat. I would think a start time would put everyone on a even playing field.

cmdrost 03-16-2010 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by evis102 (Post 127231)
If that southeast wind would have held till Sat. there would have been some 20lb+ stringers for sure. Everyone having to leave the launch at the same time puts the guys with small boats behind right off the bat. I would think a start time would put everyone on a even playing field.

I agree with this. Time of the month is good. I would change shotgun start to rule we use for CCA Trout Shoot Out. "No lines in the water before 5:30. Fishing starts at 5:30am"

Or just be more precise in your shotgun start....."Shotgun start from Calcasieu Point at 5:30 am"

The lack of an actual start time was confusing.

cmdrost 03-16-2010 08:44 AM

also....its money for a charity. Increase the entry fee. $100 a team or $30 a man, however you want to do it.

Have an individual award for big fish caught...."cough, Ross, cough"

longsidelandry 03-16-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cmdrost (Post 127312)
also....its money for a charity. Increase the entry fee. $100 a team or $30 a man, however you want to do it.

Have an individual award for big fish caught...."cough, Ross, cough"

I agree with making the entry fee more. Sell tickets for the tournament that you can get at places like what was done for the rod give away at Pete's. You can sell individual tickets for $25 a piece (or somewhere around there).

CatDaddy 03-16-2010 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reel Bender (Post 126789)
What difference does it make who the hubby is?


So we know who they are and if they are bigger than us....

Ray 03-16-2010 10:34 AM

I think the $30 per boat was a good way to get everyone hooked. We would have lost a lot of boats if it was $30/person.
But now I think almost everyone would be willing to pay more cause they had such a good time, even though the fishing was not so good.
This one was a get to know everyone tournament.

mikedatiger 03-16-2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 127347)
I think the $30 per boat was a good way to get everyone hooked. We would have lost a lot of boats if it was $30/person.
But now I think almost everyone would be willing to pay more cause they had such a good time, even though the fishing was not so good.
This one was a get to know everyone tournament.

Hit the nail on the head Ray. We will up the fees but we don't want it to be cost inhibitive for anyone. All of these will be get to know everyone and get to know everyone better tourneys - which in the case of a few people is quite scary :D

The #1 driver for this is to get everyone together for a good cause and as long as we maintain that mentality we will be in good shape.

"W" 03-16-2010 11:05 AM

I think the Next one should be $20 per Person with Side pots

longsidelandry 03-16-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 127363)
I think the Next one should be $20 per Person with Side pots

I agree, the more sidepots the better.

catch.and.fillet 03-16-2010 01:23 PM

I think ALL tourney entry money should go to the charity.

Also allow ahead of time sign-up with an easy ability to donate more if you want to. Then have an honor system on the start-time, like someone said, 5:30 or 30 minutes before sunup, allowing launching from two or maybe multiple launches. Who cares if it's all for charity and for bragging rights anyway? Have everyone check in or show up at Hebert's by 2:00 for weigh-in with the announced winners at 3 so those that launched somewhere else can gather up for awards, raffle, etc.

Maybe take part of the raffle sales or separate donations for a perpetual bragging rights trophy, sort of like the Stanley Cup. In fact, call it the SaltyCajun Cup. Something you could drink beer out of and take photos with when you have it.

Also, add redfish and flounder categories.

Just my .02 worth.

Shawn Braquet 03-16-2010 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catch.and.fillet (Post 127418)
I think ALL tourney entry money should go to the charity.

Also allow ahead of time sign-up with an easy ability to donate more if you want to. Then have an honor system on the start-time, like someone said, 5:30 or 30 minutes before sunup, allowing launching from two or maybe multiple launches. Who cares if it's all for charity and for bragging rights anyway? Have everyone check in or show up at Hebert's by 2:00 for weigh-in with the announced winners at 3 so those that launched somewhere else can gather up for awards, raffle, etc.

Maybe take part of the raffle sales or separate donations for a perpetual bragging rights trophy, sort of like the Stanley Cup. In fact, call it the SaltyCajun Cup. Something you could drink beer out of and take photos with when you have it.

Also, add redfish and flounder categories.

Just my .02 worth.

I like this a lot, the only problem with Heberts would be that if its rough like it was Heberts would be tough for smaller boats unless trailered there from launch to launch which could be time consuming, calc point allowed access to a lot of areas with a calm ride

cmdrost 03-16-2010 02:53 PM

yeah Cal Point is a first class place. Hard to beat when holding a tourney.

speckinabox 03-16-2010 03:01 PM

The only bad thing about the point is there really is not enough boat slips. I know you are not going to have enough for everyone but whenever the tide is out like it was if you don’t have a slip or trailer your boat then it’s hard to get in and out for the way in and the other activities.

ShadMan 03-16-2010 06:01 PM

I think everything went extremely well, and our organizers did one helluva job. If I were to change anything, I'd say:

Maybe $25-$30/person for entry (fairer for the yakkers)
Entry fees go to charity, but sponsored prizes to winners, plus side pots for additional action
I agree with the "honor system", fishing begins at 5:30AM
Launch from anywhere, weigh-in at one place

If 100% of the entry fees go to charity, I can process credit cards for entry fees in advance, which gives us a better head-count. There are tax implications if 100% doesn't go to charity, so I don't think I can use the nonprofit credit processing account. We could offer a discount for early registration (maybe $25/person instead of $30, for example) so you can tell sponsors how many are fishing.

Man, I'm already looking forward to the next one! :cheers:

longsidelandry 03-16-2010 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadMan (Post 127538)
I think everything went extremely well, and our organizers did one helluva job. If I were to change anything, I'd say:

Maybe $25-$30/person for entry (fairer for the yakkers)
Entry fees go to charity, but sponsored prizes to winners, plus side pots for additional action
I agree with the "honor system", fishing begins at 5:30AM
Launch from anywhere, weigh-in at one place

If 100% of the entry fees go to charity, I can process credit cards for entry fees in advance, which gives us a better head-count. There are tax implications if 100% doesn't go to charity, so I don't think I can use the nonprofit credit processing account. We could offer a discount for early registration (maybe $25/person instead of $30, for example) so you can tell sponsors how many are fishing.

Man, I'm already looking forward to the next one! :cheers:

I agree with everything above 100000%

catch.and.fillet 03-16-2010 06:31 PM

I see many other benefits to giving all ofthe entry fees to the charity. It certainly gives the tourney/shootout a more "amateur" or "non-professional" feel and for sure, I certainly felt like a non-pro on Saturday.

I don't know, it just didn't feel right to see that cash handed out while we were out there fishin' for the kids. And I bet Speckdaddy, Fool, Micah and others donating their time and talent wouldn't be the case if this was a money-only tourney. To me, it should be all or nothing. So let's give it all to the kids and if people want to do on-the-side calcuttas/side-bets, let them work it out.

The "honor system" certainly works then - launching from anywhere, weigh-in at one place also is a lot less hassle. And I agree, Calc Pt was a great place to host the results.

Ray 03-16-2010 08:26 PM

Heberts has a lot less boat docking spots than Calcasieu Point.
Each tourny will get better and better. Just have to keep learning from past tourny's.

fishinpox 03-16-2010 08:36 PM

i think all fish should be dead:eek::eek::eek: just kidding i think part of the excitement is the shotgun start but for a fun tourney it is unneccesary and unsafe. if it is in grandisle let people launch where ever fourchon golden meadow, bridgeside, sand dollar ectt just have a designated weigh in

rosska 03-16-2010 10:48 PM

Plaques or trophies would be cool. I think the tourney is more about pride and bragging rights than the money. I liked this tourney because I think the leader board reflected the true skill of the anglers and not who got lucky soaking bait at the jetties.

bay_slayer 03-16-2010 11:18 PM

Winners could also get a year of free premium membership too

Shawn Braquet 03-17-2010 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bay_slayer (Post 127846)
Winners could also get a year of free premium membership too

now your talking, and even salty cajun cash and I agree with a larger entry fee and 100% to the charity

jchief 03-17-2010 05:17 PM

Name tags at get togethers for us with terrible memories.


Who am I?

Reel Bender 03-17-2010 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosska (Post 127836)
Plaques or trophies would be cool. I think the tourney is more about pride and bragging rights than the money. I liked this tourney because I think the leader board reflected the true skill of the anglers and not who got lucky soaking bait at the jetties.


I thinks the lil guy would disagree, cause according to him and the 4000+ posts he has made he is the most skilled one here.;)

Reel Bender 03-17-2010 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchief (Post 128083)
Name tags at get togethers for us with terrible memories.


Who am I?


RR was sporting his name tag Friday night!

speckdaddy 03-17-2010 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reel Bender (Post 128103)
RR was sporting his name tag Friday night!

whatcha talkin bout bender? you aint seen me with no name tag!!!!!lmao

speckdaddy 03-17-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 128115)
I did it said something like rackmenuts:*****:

im just glad it wasnt on when bigfoot showed up. lmao bender, you a big ol s.o.b. lmao

Reel Bender 03-17-2010 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 128115)
I did it said something like rackmenuts:*****:




:eek:

Reel Bender 03-17-2010 07:12 PM

I've been trying to tell ya'll I was kinda big.......................but nooooooooooo.................ya'll just wannabelike minniewe and believe that everything a Texans says is a lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reel Bender 03-17-2010 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 128137)
:eek::*****::*****::*****::*****:it is aint it:grinpimp:

Well.....................................most is.............................................. but that part was'nt!!!:work:

Reel Bender 03-17-2010 07:29 PM

Minniewe must be a Texan because when it comes to telling tall tales that boy is the King.


There is only one difference between a texan and minniewe when they are slinging the ****, a Texan won't drown in it!:eek:

evis102 03-17-2010 11:00 PM

Per person entry fee sounds good but if it is a stringer tournament boat teams are the way to go. I hate to say it but if you give 100% to charity you are going to lose people. The 4th of July Rodeo gives plaques or trophies and they have very little turnout for the inshore divisions. I also think there should be a no Pro/Guide rule. The second Bruce Baugh singed up 98% of the people there had no chance of winning. Google Bruce and you will see he is as pro as it gets trout fishing. I was surprised he showed up for this type of thing, I guess his corky sales are down :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

meaux fishing 03-17-2010 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evis102 (Post 128326)
Per person entry fee sounds good but if it is a stringer tournament boat teams are the way to go. I hate to say it but if you give 100% to charity you are going to lose people. The 4th of July Rodeo gives plaques or trophies and they have very little turnout for the inshore divisions. I also think there should be a no Pro/Guide rule. The second Bruce Baugh singed up 98% of the people there had no chance of winning. Google Bruce and you will see he is as pro as it gets trout fishing. I was surprised he showed up for this type of thing, I guess his corky sales are down :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

I think if you cut out the money payout the people it will eliminate are the guides/pros from competing...

catch.and.fillet 03-18-2010 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 128334)
I think if you cut out the money payout the people it will eliminate are the guides/pros from competing...

One of the reasons I support 100% entry fee to charity....also, think about those that volunteered time and talent for a charitable cause....didn't seem right to speckdaddy, fool, micah and others when the cash started being handed out.

Trash fish pot winner take all? Seems okay with those kinda optional side bets. But the overall winning team just oughta get a nice trophy/cup to keep for a year....

speckdaddy 03-18-2010 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evis102 (Post 128326)
Per person entry fee sounds good but if it is a stringer tournament boat teams are the way to go. I hate to say it but if you give 100% to charity you are going to lose people. The 4th of July Rodeo gives plaques or trophies and they have very little turnout for the inshore divisions. I also think there should be a no Pro/Guide rule. The second Bruce Baugh singed up 98% of the people there had no chance of winning. Google Bruce and you will see he is as pro as it gets trout fishing. I was surprised he showed up for this type of thing, I guess his corky sales are down :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Hey guys we made this an open event. When bruce signed up i was thrilled. I mean guys here is one of the best big trout fishermen in the state and he came to OUR tourney to donate his money and compete. We put up the money to help get people excited and we never thought we woulda had as much stuff as our spondors sent. Its only gonna get better guys

mikedatiger 03-18-2010 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speckdaddy (Post 128436)
Hey guys we made this an open event. When bruce signed up i was thrilled. I mean guys here is one of the best big trout fishermen in the state and he came to OUR tourney to donate his money and compete. We put up the money to help get people excited and we never thought we woulda had as much stuff as our spondors sent. Its only gonna get better guys

I can promise everyone this - that I will bust my butt for sponsors for 2011. We had great sponsors this year, but was bad timing with regards to some of the other majors due to their year end budgeting. This year we have the turnout numbers and overall participation to support the cause - game on!!

With regards to "pros" fishing - the SC Tourneys are open to all SC members. Plus, I'd rather be spanked by Bruce as opposed to Catdaddy :D

PUREBAY2200 03-18-2010 03:05 PM

hooters...... i think that would b a great sponsor!

evis102 03-18-2010 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikedatiger (Post 128468)
I can promise everyone this - that I will bust my butt for sponsors for 2011. We had great sponsors this year, but was bad timing with regards to some of the other majors due to their year end budgeting. This year we have the turnout numbers and overall participation to support the cause - game on!!

With regards to "pros" fishing - the SC Tourneys are open to all SC members. Plus, I'd rather be spanked by Bruce as opposed to Catdaddy :D

In general terms I'm just trying to make the point that overall turnout next year could be hurt when people see who won this year. As for myself I like the level of competition that someone like Bruce brings. The only way to get to the next level is to compete against people that are already there.

evis102 03-18-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catch.and.fillet (Post 128395)
One of the reasons I support 100% entry fee to charity....also, think about those that volunteered time and talent for a charitable cause....didn't seem right to speckdaddy, fool, micah and others when the cash started being handed out.

Trash fish pot winner take all? Seems okay with those kinda optional side bets. But the overall winning team just oughta get a nice trophy/cup to keep for a year....

Generally people go to Casino's because there is a chance they will win big money. Its the same with fishing tournaments, no matter what the cause the tournaments with the big turnouts are the ones with good pay outs. Everyone wants to help the kids but most also want to feel like they have a chance to win big.

evis102 03-18-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purebay2200 (Post 128573)
hooters...... I think that would b a great sponsor!

agree 100%

rosska 03-18-2010 07:13 PM

Bruce Baugh, Steve Nelson & Eddy Hicks are the best of the best on the lake. I admire these guys for their knowledge, skill and ability to produce trophy trout. I strive to one day be of their caliber and would not want to win a tournament unless they were in it. These are stand up guys who enjoy competing just as much as we do. The reason they show up is the SaltyCajun tournament gives them a chance to compete against guys who love to fish as much as they do. I give them props because they proved they are the best once again.


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