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					Originally Posted by Spunt Drag  Not tryin to slam anybody's brand.  Didn't mean to sound that way.  
 
 
 Haha I was wondering when that debate would begin
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 I'm not that partial to it. It gets the job done I only really used it when I was training. Mine got collar smart quick though. I just put it on her so she doesn't even think about acting up. She's a completely different dog with it on. 
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