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Originally Posted by evidrine
First off I don't carry in church basically because bit is against the law. Secondly, because of your special training you were declaired a "security team" which only allows you to carry in church with permission. You cannot lawfully disarm anyone. Third, the more you refer to it as "if you come into the MY church" just makes me not want to go there. It's supposed to be everyone's church. We all have a basic right to protect ourselves and each other. Unfortunately we have hoops to jump through to do so the way we would all like to. The whole "I believe that I am trained more than you are" or "I have special permission and you don't" is the same attitude that we as gun owners are fighting against. I understand your intentions but it sounds like a broken record to me. We all have to obey the law, no one's disagreeing with you on that. The right to cc or oc should be encouraged not discouraged.
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And this explains us as humans different ways of interpreting words. I look at Cajun using "MY church" as ownership and pride much like I refer to the plant I work at as "MY" plant and the jobs that I plan as "MY" jobs. I take a lot of pride in my work thus taking ownership so when something goes wrong or right it is "MY" doings. I could see how it could come off as a forum member power trip though too but I've had the pleasure to meet Mr. Cajun on multiple occasions and would not see him as presenting himself in this manner. But like I said different interpretations can be different for other people especially when conversing over the interweb. As far as law and disarming someone I'm no lawyer so who knows. I would imagine if said firearm could be viewed as a threat then you as an individual are within your rights to attempt to disarm said person through self defense. I would imagine if the team is as trained as they claim to be said person would simply be escorted out unless a gun is being aimed at someone. Then I would imagine the team would handle the situation as best the see it and also at that point I would imagine another team member would have already had the appropriate LEO dispatched to assist.