Oyster permit limits lifted

[Top Dawg]

http://www.kplctv.com/story/18937562...ake-harvesters

["W"]

Knew it was coming ... They will allow oysterfisheman to destroy the lake and kill all the south reefs

[SULPHITE]

Public comments on the proposed rule will be accepted until August 20, 2012. Comments may be submitted to Patrick Banks, Office of Fisheries, Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries, P.O. Box 98000, Baton Rouge, LA 70898-9000 or via email to pbanks@wlf.la.gov.

[Marshrat]

Originally Posted by "W"

Knew it was coming ... They will allow oysterfisheman to destroy the lake and kill all the south reefs

I am curious as to how the oyster fishermen will destroy the lake and kill the reefs!!! There have been oyster fishermen in that lake since the first people settled in Cameron Parish. From what I know, this is the only place in the state that has a problem with commercial oyster fisherman and recreational fisherman to this degree.

If biological data was to show that the beds are in danger then I would be in agreement with shutting down the oyster harvest in the area.



Warren

["W"]

Originally Posted by Marshrat

I am curious as to how the oyster fishermen will destroy the lake and kill the reefs!!! There have been oyster fishermen in that lake since the first people settled in Cameron Parish. From what I know, this is the only place in the state that has a problem with commercial oyster fisherman and recreational fisherman to this degree.

If biological data was to show that the beds are in danger then I would be in agreement with shutting down the oyster harvest in the area.



Warren

#1 dredging , big lake has always been tong for years and years and only about 25 boats max oystered the lake
#2 #of boats dredging
#3 no reseeding
#4 they whipped out basket reef in two days with 80 oyster boats on it
*5 outlaws ...more tickets are given out to osyterfisherman than any other activity on the lake , (recreational, shrimping, commercial )...more than all these combine

[mstulb]

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QUOTE=Marshrat;456878]I am curious as to how the oyster fishermen will destroy the lake and kill the reefs!!! There have been oyster fishermen in that lake since the first people settled in Cameron Parish. From what I know, this is the only place in the state that has a problem with commercial oyster fisherman and recreational fisherman to this degree.

If biological data was to show that the beds are in danger then I would be in agreement with shutting down the oyster harvest in the area.


-----R u serious? You must not fish very much on Calc lake. They have flattened some of the best reefs on the lake. I don't need a biologist to see the damage done in a 3 year period, now there is no end in sight.

Lot of factors negatively impacting the estuary- lift on oyster ban & closure of the (lifeline of that lake) it can only take soo much.


Warren[/QUOTE]

["W"]

Stub .... The experts on this site say that closing the weirs is not hurting anything ..

Lmao.... Guess that's why there is not a crab trap near any weirs and crabbing in lake has shut down....
1st round of effect is crabbers in lake
2nd round will be bait shift
3rd.will be lack of life on south end and east side
4th will be (we saved the grass hip hip horrray)

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by "W"

Stub .... The experts on this site say that closing the weirs is not hurting anything ..

Lmao.... Guess that's why there is not a crab trap near any weirs and crabbing in lake has shut down....
1st round of effect is crabbers in lake
2nd round will be bait shift
3rd.will be lack of life on south end and east side
4th will be (we saved the grass hip hip horrray)

Guess we will have to tell all the people on Hwy 27 that the crabbing has shut down Also, guess the hundreds of crab traps I saw 2 weekends ago in the lake are just abandoned crab traps

Its just neverending this saga

You are looking at this from the top down, the food chain goes from bottom up - grass is way down there which is where to start, you take out the bottom links and the whole thing falls down
not getting into this again, yall have a happy 4th

[mstulb]

Grand Marsh is our biggest hatchery for brown and white shrimp and many other thread fin species-

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by mstulb

Grand Marsh is our biggest hatchery for brown and white shrimp and many other thread fin species-

and it will continue to be as long as the weirs are operated correctly

it will NOT be if saltwater is allowed in there and the whole place turns to a big wide open mudflat which WILL happen if saltwater gets there


heading to Grand Isle to fish tomorrow because that place is NOT going to be there forever, gonna enjoy it while I can. That side of the state should serve as an example for all coastal regions on what canals and levees can do to an entire ecosystem. They are trying to mitigate for the land loss a little too late, the freshwater diversions should have been there when the MS River levee went up. 'They' didn't know back then the damage they were doing, NOW 90 years later 'they' do know, thats why the weirs are there. Had the weirs on Big Lake not been placed back up after Rita (6 years of saltwater intrusion) I bet by now there would have been a huge negative impact on the marsh, the fish, and especially the ducks. People would be picketing at City Hall to replace them. Of course we will never know though

[mstulb]

Both Hog Island Marsh and Oyster Bayou Marsh lands are beautiful and flourishing with no weir system. They are by NO means a mud flat???These are two very large marsh areas that feed into westcove and ship channel. Experience fluctuating salinity levels- these marshes have been here for hundreds of years and have flourished, there being here today is proof of that. Why do we believe a man made lock will correct a problem that does not exist. Mother Nature will take its course.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by mstulb

Both Hog Island Marsh and Oyster Bayou Marsh lands are beautiful and flourishing with no weir system. They are by NO means a mud flat???These are two very large marsh areas that feed into westcove and ship channel. Experience fluctuating salinity levels- these marshes have been here for hundreds of years and have flourished, there being here today is proof of that. Why do we believe a man made lock will correct a problem that does not exist. Mother Nature will take its course.

For hundreds of years there was no manmade ship channel, this is what the weirs are mitigating for

[Top Dawg]

I hate to say it but the marsh behind hog island has been mud flat since Rita. Last year big pasture marsh had a higher salinity than the lake. And das a FACT. Reason why there was no wigeon grass in the marsh. This year we've had some rain and they managing the wiers wigeon grass is already growing back.

[mstulb]

These marshes are not open flats?????
They are winding protected marshlands for shrimp and thread fin to hatch several times a year. These marshes ie.. Oyster Bayou & hog island have Never had widgeon grass nor do I see how the growth of widgeon grass is even relative to this discussion b/c it has NO effect on our fishery but rather the Hunting aspect of south LA-

Based of your logic we should sacrifice the free flow cycle of
Shrimp and thread fin behind grand so widgeon grass can freely????????

["W"]

Widgeon grass is greater asset than lake life (Governed protection)

[Top Dawg]

I was just using wigeon grass as an example of the water freshness. Hell there used to be Lilly pads in Sabine reserve.

[Jadams]

Who needs widgeon grass... I shoot all my ducks over golden nuggets and sacks of sweet potatoes!

[Top Dawg]

Lol word.

[Spunt Drag]

Originally Posted by Jadams

Who needs widgeon grass... I shoot all my ducks over golden nuggets and sacks of sweet potatoes!

Bread is cheaper and they walk right up to you at the park. Don't even have to bring calls.