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Old 09-14-2012, 09:48 AM
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Very interesting that the MS River delta is sediment-starved, yet just a couple hundred miles upstream the sediment is filling in the river Seems almost elementary that instead of placing that sediment on the bank where it will just fill right back in, why not just place it on a barge and ship it where its needed downstream. Seems like north and south La could work together on this

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Standing on the deck of the vessel Jadwin, a constant vibration buzzes through shoe soles as the dustpan dredge peels away layers of sand and sediment from the Mississippi River bottom and shoots it through a 1,000-foot long steel pipe, where it's deposited outside the channel.
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' five-story dredge can transfer 55,000 to 60,000 cubic yards of sand per day from the channel closer to the shore with its giant vacuum, and this year the Jadwin and its crew has been busier than ever.
A combination of sediment deposited during the Great Flood of 2011 and the record low river levels this year has clogged America's river super highway and forced temporary closures of ports like those in Lake Providence and Madison Parish.
An 11-mile stretch of the main channel below Greenville, Miss., was intermittently closed to barge traffic in August.
"It's hard to imagine if you look around now that the river was out of its banks last year," said Chuck Ashley, assistant master of the Jadwin.
The Jadwin and its crew were prying sand from the river near Lake Providence this week as another dredge, the Butcher, continued clearing the Lake Providence Port's channel and harbor with its cutter head blade.
Johnny Martin of Terral River Service, which has port and tug operations up and down the Mississippi, said this year has been among the worst he's seen for river commerce.
"It's been whuppin' us," Martin said earlier this summer.
This week Martin was relieved that the Lake Providence Port was partially operational, but he said the situation was exacerbated because there hasn't been consistent annual dredging.
The corps secured additional money for dredging this year, but only through disaster funding made available following the Great Flood of 2011.
There is no funding allocated for a complete dredging program in the 2013 budget.
"That's our concern," said Kavanaugh Breazeale, public information officer for the corps' Vicksburg, Miss., District.
The corps' funding comes from Congress, but U.S. Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-Quitman, said the Louisiana delegation has so far been unable to convince its colleagues of the importance of dredging.
"We're trying to make our colleagues understand the economic impact of not dredging is just as devastating to the nation as a whole as it is to Louisiana," said Alexander, who said he met with U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., about the issue this week. "It's a shame."
Martin said commerce will be compromised if Congress doesn't allocate funding for consistent dredging of the river's channel and its ports.
"If we face another low water year like this in 2013, I can tell you that everybody's going to be in deep trouble," he said.
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:35 AM
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Seems with todays technology we should be able to pump sand very economically. over great distances.

We need to rebuild out natural ridges, if LA got what Colorado and other interior states got as far as revenue sharing from the feds we could rebuild our coast in a decade or so.
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Seems with todays technology we should be able to pump sand very economically. over great distances.

We need to rebuild out natural ridges, if LA got what Colorado and other interior states got as far as revenue sharing from the feds we could rebuild our coast in a decade or so.
We can hope.

You could show this to any 1st grade class and they would all figure this out. North La has toto much sediment in the MS River, south La needs sediment. Its comical, but not really

Natural ridges - I agree, just a 2 ft elevation change is where the cheniers were formed. When you head south on HWY 1 to Grand Isle you can see all the dead live oaks out there that used to be a chenier there. The same with SW La, right across from Price Lake Road entrance you can see all those dead live oaks on the cheniers.
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:27 PM
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Billy Nungesser wants to build an 8 foot levee where natural ridges stood before coastal erosion came around Plaquemines parish to help knock the storm surge and protect the levees, I think its a good idea.


My Grand Paw told me his dad use to take a horse and buggy to Last Island. That's scary to know how much we lost.
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If you talk to the old-timers they will open your eyes on costal errosion
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Billy Nungesser wants to build an 8 foot levee where natural ridges stood before coastal erosion came around Plaquemines parish to help knock the storm surge and protect the levees, I think its a good idea.


My Grand Paw told me his dad use to take a horse and buggy to Last Island. That's scary to know how much we lost.

ur grand paw is correct, i have pics from back in the day when last island was a village and not an island. there were also cow on the island back only 2 generation ago. it has since pretty much disappeared.

its sad to go fish an area and see the land loss in just a year or after a storm...
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If you talk to the old-timers they will open your eyes on costal errosion
Jean Landry is a coworker of mine that lives there and I like to listen to her stories of her growing up. You guys on the island are a hard-working bunch. I know there was significant damage to many places but after 2 weeks the place looked liked it did when I was last down there. You all just have a hard work ethic to get things done.

last time we were there she had been fishing and was upset she didn't bring her castnet because she wanted to catch some mullet....to eat She is gonna cook em up for us one of these days, says its one of her favorites
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If they are the channel mullet (not realy a mullet) they are delicious, I've tried the black mullet and am not a big fan. I talk with Tilman Camardelle (like 87 years young) very often about the old days. He lived there since the 40's.
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87 years on grand isle is like 120 any other place
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GI Bob how long you been on the Island, are you a permanent resisdent?
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