Rockafeller - Mud Hole Closed

[Gasper Master]

http://www.kplctv.com/story/15069569...ildlife-refuge

[speckdaddy]

Thats why good people are havin a hard time findin places ta fish. Idiots dont know how ta pick up after themselves

[Montauk17]

I am all for picking up after yourself. BUT,seems like the WLF is just being lazy. They could make money by writing citations.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Montauk17

I am all for picking up after yourself. BUT,seems like the WLF is just being lazy. They could make money by writing citations.

WL&F have been fighting this this for years....To be able to access a refuge is a privilege and the WL&F should not have to waist money and babysit...LAZY and TRASHY people...

Im glad to see them close it and keep closing every place where people cant pick up after them selves

and If you fish these places and do clean up!! Good Job but you should pick up the others trash also..

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by "W"

WL&F have been fighting this this for years....To be able to access a refuge is a privilege and the WL&F should not have to waist money and babysit...LAZY and TRASHY people...

Im glad to see them close it and keep closing every place where people cant pick up after them selves

and If you fish these places and do clean up!! Good Job but you should pick up the others trash also..

You telling me you pick up others trash when you see it? If you were to pick up all the trash out there (and most of Louisiana's water bodies), you would have a full-time job. Write tickets is what I say, don't punish the majority for the actions of a few. Big Lake ain't the cleanest of places in the world

[Montauk17]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

You telling me you pick up others trash when you see it? If you were to pick up all the trash out there (and most of Louisiana's water bodies), you would have a full-time job. Write tickets is what I say, don't punish the majority for the actions of a few. Big Lake ain't the cleanest of places in the world

Bingo....the good always suffer for the bad.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

You telling me you pick up others trash when you see it? If you were to pick up all the trash out there (and most of Louisiana's water bodies), you would have a full-time job. Write tickets is what I say, don't punish the majority for the actions of a few. Big Lake ain't the cleanest of places in the world

You telling me that WL&F should have to pick it up

[Kenner18]

Originally Posted by Montauk17

You have the comprehension level of a 3 year old.

Its actually a valid point ,not a lack of comprehension. If You nor I pick it up ,and someone feels it isnt thier place to pick up a little extra with thier trash . Then who should pick it up . It only leaves WL&F to clean up the mess. Is it really fair to them to do it?

[Kenner18]

I agree with Montauk , post an agent and write some tickets . At least make some money off the trashy people.
Before long there will be no public areas because of this lack of care by a select few.

[Kenner18]

It would be the ethical thing to do ,to pick up all the trash around you . Unfortunately it wouldnt stop the litter problem. I'm sure the offenders would continue to litter with no penalty ,while others clean up the mess. Closings and fines are the only solution to this unfortunate problem .
As Montauk said ...The good always suffer for the bad!

[wtretrievers]

That's the frickin problem! Sound like my kids! I didn't do it, why I got to pick it up? If everyone left with what they came with PLUS one extra piece of trash wouldn't have this problem, sure people shouldn't leave trash, but people shouldn't step over it & keep going

[T-Red]

Originally Posted by wtretrievers

That's the frickin problem! Sound like my kids! I didn't do it, why I got to pick it up? If everyone left with what they came with PLUS one extra piece of trash wouldn't have this problem, sure people shouldn't leave trash, but people shouldn't step over it & keep going

well said

[redtail28]

I was out there a couple of weeks ago.And DAM people
what the hell. If WLF would have been there that day
they could have made a fortune. Dead fish about 6 inch deep
and all the fly"s and smell to go with it.

[Barnaldo]

Originally Posted by redtail28

I was out there a couple of weeks ago.And DAM people
what the hell. If WLF would have been there that day
they could have made a fortune. Dead fish about 6 inch deep
and all the fly"s and smell to go with it.

I was there 2 weekends ago and the smell was terrible. By catch all over the shore and dead fish in the water.

[cajun bill]

Has anyone heard of the "broken windows theory", i.e. one broken window leads to many more broken windows? That is what this is. Once someone leaves trash, bycatch, etc., the next idiot who doesn't give a S$$t, will think, "oh well, someone else left their crap so I will too". Yes, I am one of those who always picks up my stuff and whatever I bring, I leave with, but I suspect, I'm in the minority. I have been many times to the "mudhole" (and the "cement dam" and "LSU" and "crab city") and several other weirs at Rockefeller. Every one of them is full of left over strings, bycatch, torn cast nets, beer cans, empty water bottles, etc. In fact, the only time I have ever ever seen them fairly clean was just after Hurricane Rita, but it didn't take long for the debris to pile up again. I was wondering how long it would take the LDWF to finally get enough and close them down.

Second problem, for a agent/warden to write a ticket, he has to witness the offending party leaving bycatch, trash, etc. before he would write a ticket. Do you really think that if the people at the weir see a uniformed agent/warden there, they are going to litter, etc. while he is present?

I think it's symptomatic of our culture and I'm ashamed of our behavior.

[Gasper Master]

[QUOTE=cajun bill;285946]
Second problem, for a agent/warden to write a ticket, he has to witness the offending party leaving bycatch, trash, etc. before he would write a ticket. Do you really think that if the people at the weir see a uniformed agent/warden there, they are going to litter, etc. while he is present?
[QUOTE]

An agent doesn't always have to wear a uniform. I have heard, dont know if its true, but supposedly there are wardens that go out in plain clothes to watch people and then they report back to a warden at the launch or on the water who will find that boat and people and check them. A small hidden camera can go a long ways.

[Kenner18]

WLF should catch a few of the culprits and as a penelty make them clean up the mess. The trash is one thing ,but the bycatch left rotting everywhere is one of the major issues .

[Montauk17]

Duck butter was talking about w picking up trash,not WLF. You won't stop trashy people from being trashy by closing an area. If they are ignorant enough to not read and follow rules tickets will remind them real quick.

[Kenner18]

Originally Posted by Montauk17

Duck butter was talking about w picking up trash,not WLF. You won't stop trashy people from being trashy by closing an area,you do it by writing tickets.

I understand that . But unfortunately W did present a valid question for a change ,whether he ment to or not .

["W"]

Originally Posted by Montauk17

Duck butter was talking about w picking up trash,not WLF. You won't stop trashy people from being trashy.

I have picked up plenty of trash....My wife picked up a whole bucket of trash at Heberts Landing Fri and threw it away....
So Yes I pick up trash when i cross it......and I dont leave a mess for others to have a chance to pick up after me