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Old 06-20-2009, 09:01 PM
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BAN LIVE BAIT FROM TROUT TOURNYS... THIS IS BS sorry it just burns me..
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:24 PM
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BAN LIVE BAIT FROM TROUT TOURNYS... THIS IS BS sorry it just burns me..

BAN LIVE?

Ban live and Dead. you know they go post up on the edge of the ship channel with em and pull some 8 lber out.
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:48 PM
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Default I could not agree with you more!!!!!!!!!!

The trout killing would not be near what it is if live bait is banned. The true trophy trout fisherman that fishes lures will have the respect for the big fish to try and keep it alive. The majority of the big trout caught this time of year are caught and killed by the people fishing live bait. The tournaments should either have two different divisions or ban live bait. The spectacular tournament banned wade fishing but allowed live bait. This is crazy, a tournament should be about skill and ability not who can throw an anchor and let a croaker swim around their boat. It takes a skilled angler to catch fish on lures, weather wading or in a boat. Anyone can throw an anchor hook and a croaker and sit back with their fingers crossed. You want to see fewer anglers on the lake, ban live bait and see how many people will get out there this time of year and grind it out. I would like to see the results for the tournament today listing what each fish was caught on. I bet it would be pretty interesting.

Bruce, hell of a fish and thanks for representing true anglers well!!!

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Old 06-20-2009, 11:12 PM
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The trout killing would not be near what it is if live bait is banned. The true trophy trout fisherman that fishes lures will have the respect for the big fish to try and keep it alive. The majority of the big trout caught this time of year are caught and killed by the people fishing live bait. The tournaments should either have two different divisions or ban live bait. The spectacular tournament banned wade fishing but allowed live bait. This is crazy, a tournament should be about skill and ability not who can throw an anchor and let a croaker swim around their boat. It takes a skilled angler to catch fish on lures, weather wading or in a boat. Anyone can throw an anchor hook and a croaker and sit back with their fingers crossed. You want to see fewer anglers on the lake, ban live bait and see how many people will get out there this time of year and grind it out. I would like to see the results for the tournament today listing what each fish was caught on. I bet it would be pretty interesting.

Bruce, hell of a fish and thanks for representing true anglers well!!!

SAVE THE CROAKERS; THROW A LURE
You cant wade. but live bait is ok.. dosent make any sence.. Maybe when gas prices go up we'll get more oil tankers in the ship channel and run these JIMS off.. there better b a rule against live bait on the 4th or this trophy trout angler will not b attending.. Lucky for yall!!! lol

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Old 06-20-2009, 10:48 PM
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I agree 100%.....Live bait should not be allowed in any tournament ...Even STAR.....Winners should have some kind of skills not soaking a Croaker on bottom!!!!
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:55 PM
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I second that...
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:16 PM
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WE DONT ROLL LIVE BAIT.....NOT FOR MONEY....Their is NO SKILL in Soaking a Croaker on bottom.....Im No trophy trout king but I can say that I have never soaked a croaker or shrimp ........All my fish come off artifical
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:28 PM
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WE DONT ROLL LIVE BAIT.....NOT FOR MONEY....Their is NO SKILL in Soaking a Croaker on bottom.....Im No trophy trout king but I can say that I have never soaked a croaker or shrimp ........All my fish come off artifical
you can narrow your artificial down to 3 baits lol
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:34 PM
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All your fish come off the tit.
YEP and Strait in to the Grease.....
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:23 PM
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Thats what i like about u W.. keep it artifical... You feel alot better about yourself.. And for all you live shrimp fisherman, may the hardheads be plentiful... hahahah...
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One thing that pissed me off a little more about the whole topic is the book Trout Masters. The book only has 3 good chapters and they happen to be on big lake anglers. I did enjoy reading these chapters but the rest of the book is dedicated to *%^#ing croaker soakers. To label these people as Trout Masters is a insult to the true angles of the book. I am gald this thread got started because I have been needing to vent on this topic for a while.
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Old 06-21-2009, 01:31 PM
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Live bait is not used in BASS tourneys or the Redfish cup series. This is the only time of the years it is more efficient than artificail , mainly due to accessibilty to the live croakers/mullets.



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One thing that pissed me off a little more about the whole topic is the book Trout Masters. The book only has 3 good chapters and they happen to be on big lake anglers. I did enjoy reading these chapters but the rest of the book is dedicated to *%^#ing croaker soakers. To label these people as Trout Masters is a insult to the true angles of the book. I am gald this thread got started because I have been needing to vent on this topic for a while.
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Old 06-21-2009, 02:13 AM
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The book is sittin' on my desk right now. Took all of 30 minutes for me to read it. Except for chapters 3 and 6......the book is a joke.
Its got some nice pics..lmao
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It is beyond me how these doods can be labeled "Trout Masters" when they enter competition with live bait. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! What an accomplishment!!!! I would have much rather read W's life story than read about them. IMO, there are only two true "Trout Masters" in that book....Jeff Poe and, "The Master", himself, Will Drost. I know, for a fact, that there are others more deserving when it comes to ability. That's the worst $30 I've ever spent in my life.
Salty the best story was CHINK.....LMAO x 10.....He double up on croaker....
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Old 06-21-2009, 08:45 PM
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It is beyond me how these doods can be labeled "Trout Masters" when they enter competition with live bait. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! What an accomplishment!!!! I would have much rather read W's life story than read about them. IMO, there are only two true "Trout Masters" in that book....Jeff Poe and, "The Master", himself, Will Drost. I know, for a fact, that there are others more deserving when it comes to ability. That's the worst $30 I've ever spent in my life.
you forgot trout master capt eric dumas. w's mentor :wo rk:
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I fish artificials...however when my son is with me (8) he throws live shrimp. I agree as far as banning organic bait for tournament.
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I fish artificials...however when my son is with me (8) he throws live shrimp. I agree as far as banning organic bait for tournament.
I have nothing against someone fishing live bait.....I was taught by my dad to use plastic only.....We never use live so there is no need for me to now.....I just dont think it should be used in tournaments......

The best fisherman never bet Croaker soakers......Thats just fact.....

Last two Tournaments Croaker Soaking won...
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Let me see if I got this right....You enter a tournament, knowing the rules....you decide to fish with artificals....you constantly get beat by folks who decide to fish differently than you....so, as a result, you belittle the winners and want all future tournament rules to be changed to conform to your method of fishing so that you'll have a better chance to win....!! Almost sounds like Obama's policies to redistribute the wealth.......Ain't this a Great Country!!!
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:18 PM
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Let me see if I got this right....You enter a tournament, knowing the rules....you decide to fish with artificals....you constantly get beat by folks who decide to fish differently than you....so, as a result, you belittle the winners and want all future tournament rules to be changed to conform to your method of fishing so that you'll have a better chance to win....!! Almost sounds like Obama's policies to redistribute the wealth.......Ain't this a Great Country!!!

Let me help you get it right.... I enter a tournament to test my skills, knowledge to find fish, and ability to adapt to the fishing conditions against others that would like to do the same. I fish with artifical lures because it is the weapon of true anglers which takes practice and ability to master. Do you see the anglers of the redfish cup, texas trout series, spectacular series, bass masters and flw tour throwing an anchor and soaking bait? NOPE! Why, because it would not be a true test of the angler. If these tournaments allowed people to soak bait you me or my three year old daughter would have the ability to compete with them. A tournament should be setup so that the anglers that come out on top are truly skilled anglers. It should be a tournament which requires skill to come out on top, not like a Lottery which is dependent on luck. Anyone can depend on a live bait and luck to make up for their lack of skill. I go out to compete against anglers not people who decide to fish in the Lottery. I have no problem not winning a tournament but I want to look at the leader board and say those were the true anglers of the tournament, not someone who depended on a live bait for the day. If I do not win, it shows I need to put in more time and work to better my abilities and chance to win. I do not have anything against anyone who chooses to fish with bait. I have used bait too, and depending on who I am fishing with (wife or kids) I am sure I will one day use it again. But, you will never see me use it in a tournament or competition. I will then depend on my true fishing abilities in which I think all others should have to depend on.
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