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Old 03-29-2014, 03:41 PM
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How do. Do you all know about how people put copper sulfate in ponds to kill alge. If so you will understand if I ask if there is a way to do that for stagnat tanks in the 500-600 galon range.
If you eer had a alge problem you understand preventing it from happening again is a priority.
So the next question is what adverse situitanals do you for seed for putting copper sulfate in diesel. As I wonder if it might not be good for old motors with da incress in sulfides in the low sulfer blends.
Next how is it that on land red diesel costs less than on the coast. I came to understand died fule was always at least a dollar cheeper than the highway clear kind.

Thanks and no I never put it in a tank yet. Jus looking for a pluss pluss solve for a problem I foresee could come up on my boat.
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Old 03-31-2014, 08:28 AM
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How do. Do you all know about how people put copper sulfate in ponds to kill alge. If so you will understand if I ask if there is a way to do that for stagnat tanks in the 500-600 galon range.

If you eer had a alge problem you understand preventing it from happening again is a priority.

So the next question is what adverse situitanals do you for seed for putting copper sulfate in diesel. As I wonder if it might not be good for old motors with da incress in sulfides in the low sulfer blends.

Next how is it that on land red diesel costs less than on the coast. I came to understand died fule was always at least a dollar cheeper than the highway clear kind.



Thanks and no I never put it in a tank yet. Jus looking for a pluss pluss solve for a problem I foresee could come up on my boat.

Red diesel is just regular diesel that is died to differentiate it from the typical consumer diesel. Red diesel is sold under different tax rates than standard diesel, which is why the average consumer can get in trouble for having it.
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:02 AM
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Fuel always costs more on the coast, even if it is the off road diesel
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:19 AM
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:28 AM
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Nope nope nope.........if it doese what it says it has a solvent in it. Very very bad for fiberglass.

To brake down water a solvent is needed. To keep fule from separating from water or stratagem anation of fuel a solvent is needed.

Fiberglass don't do no good wit solvents it brakes down and turns to moosh after time.
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Nope nope nope.........if it doese what it says it has a solvent in it. Very very bad for fiberglass.

To brake down water a solvent is needed. To keep fule from separating from water or stratagem anation of fuel a solvent is needed.

Fiberglass don't do no good wit solvents it brakes down and turns to moosh after time.
yea i didnt see anywhere in your original post about it being fiberglass. just assumed it would be plastic or metal like most gas tanks
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Dog, I would be very careful putting any additives in your tank. Most will clog your racor filters with dead microbes. I would look for a mobile fuel polishing system to go to your boat and polish your fuel. From then on only use Valvtech diesel from local marinas; they already have special additives to prevent most algea and sludge build-up in your tank. Most diesel start to breakdown 120 days after refining! Keep your tanks full. avoids water in your tanks and then use the boat as often as you can. Most problems with fuel comes from boat sitting up for extended periods. If that boat hasn't been used in 2 years get rid of the fuel in those tanks!
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:52 PM
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Dog, I would be very careful putting any additives in your tank. Most will clog your racor filters with dead microbes. I would look for a mobile fuel polishing system to go to your boat and polish your fuel. From then on only use Valvtech diesel from local marinas; they already have special additives to prevent most algea and sludge build-up in your tank. Most diesel start to breakdown 120 days after refining! Keep your tanks full. avoids water in your tanks and then use the boat as often as you can. Most problems with fuel comes from boat sitting up for extended periods. If that boat hasn't been used in 2 years get rid of the fuel in those tanks!
Yep yep and yep.
My thoughts too. Additives can degrade your tanks. Alcohol ESP. On the fiberglass tanks.
Also got any names on polish guys.
Another thing is valvtech a red diesel.
Yes sitting does a lot more than grow alge in diesel it rusts cylinders and other componits of big motors

It seems a few places have red for boats but I never heard the valv thing mentiond.

Above posts........

Yep red diesel is tax different but off road ,farm trucks, etc can use it including oil rigs.

If the little green bottle has alcohol in it I will never touch it but I plan to look it up and see what's in it.


My big ideer was mainly higher sulfides as 1970 N72's were made for 1970's diesel which smelled like rotten eggs if any of you are old enough to remember.
They run better with the red stuff which has higher sulfer.

Heck I wonder if some of you are old enough to have noticed the trucks running like crap when they started takeing the sulfer out.

Anywho thanks guys I was about to remove post as no one replied for days.
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Old 03-31-2014, 10:46 PM
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Dog, I would be very careful putting any additives in your tank. Most will clog your racor filters with dead microbes. I would look for a mobile fuel polishing system to go to your boat and polish your fuel. From then on only use Valvtech diesel from local marinas; they already have special additives to prevent most algea and sludge build-up in your tank. Most diesel start to breakdown 120 days after refining! Keep your tanks full. avoids water in your tanks and then use the boat as often as you can. Most problems with fuel comes from boat sitting up for extended periods. If that boat hasn't been used in 2 years get rid of the fuel in those tanks!
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for your old diesels that dont like the new high sulphur content(dry) diesel....use automatic tranny fluid in it...keep your receipts fr the tranny fluid and diesel and DOT cant do you anything if they test your fuel and find it with a red tint...autotranny fluid will boost cetane and lubricate all the parts...cheap and done!!


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for your old diesels that dont like the new high sulphur content(dry) diesel....use automatic tranny fluid in it...keep your receipts fr the tranny fluid and diesel and DOT cant do you anything if they test your fuel and find it with a red tint...autotranny fluid will boost cetane and lubricate all the parts...cheap and done!!


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Um ok but u seen what dat tran fluid does to rubber.

An I ment 71N nubbies rolled too two.

I got a pair of flip flops dat stuff et da tred off. An I bet u can improve traction of tiers by putting it on treds too! I bet u leave rubber at 2 mile an hour wit trans mittun fooid .
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Hey Dog, where is the boat docked? I do know a few guys who offer polishing/tank services along the gulf coast. That boat has naturals, not turbos? Them Naturals are bullet proof...DDs will out last you if they're taken care of...nothing to get over 10,000 hrs off these engines before a rebuild. Those naturals are normally found on the LRC Hats. If ya lookin at a sportfish convertible then your cruisin' speed should be around 17 knots; right at planning speed w/ those engines. Are the engines 71 or 92s?
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Hey Dog, where is the boat docked? I do know a few guys who offer polishing/tank services along the gulf coast. That boat has naturals, not turbos? Them Naturals are bullet proof...DDs will out last you if they're taken care of...nothing to get over 10,000 hrs off these engines before a rebuild. Those naturals are normally found on the LRC Hats. If ya lookin at a sportfish convertible then your cruisin' speed should be around 17 knots; right at planning speed w/ those engines. Are the engines 71 or 92s?
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I will hit u up for services later.

N in non turbo or some say natural aspirated . Easy to work on and bit cheeper in cost to repair. A monkey with a lawn mower wrench could figure out the number of valves needed.
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Ratdog you should do a thread on oyster mushroom growing...... I love a good mushroom fricasse and would like to learn how to grow them.
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Well good luck Ratdog. You have to have a dream and hold on to it and never give up. I saved for 8 years to buy my boat. I saved $100 here and $50 there, When my friends were going out to eat and such I was saving. I know I only own a Carolina Skiff 238 DLV but it is all mine and paid for. I wish you well buddy and don't let people get you down. Hang in there.
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Well good luck Ratdog. You have to have a dream and hold on to it and never give up. I saved for 8 years to buy my boat. I saved $100 here and $50 there, When my friends were going out to eat and such I was saving. I know I only own a Carolina Skiff 238 DLV but it is all mine and paid for. I wish you well buddy and don't let people get you down. Hang in there.
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I worked in the oilfield for fifteen years. I saved for lots of things. ATv ,prospecting equipment,hobbies,hydroponics,astronomy,vacation timeshares .
I'm glad you got what you wanted.thing is when you make a good bit of money per year it is funny how when you get that item you saved for you wind up saving to get something else. So I'm glad your happy wit you boat. And I wonder if your saving for a bigger one.
I now practice minimalist ideas. And try to enjoy what I have left.
It's funny how things work out.but keep in mind what you have now might not be there tommorow.and what you can do today is something you will only be able to enjoy as memories later.
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I worked in the oilfield for fifteen years. I saved for lots of things. ATv ,prospecting equipment,hobbies,hydroponics,astronomy,vacation timeshares .
I'm glad you got what you wanted.thing is when you make a good bit of money per year it is funny how when you get that item you saved for you wind up saving to get something else. So I'm glad your happy wit you boat. And I wonder if your saving for a bigger one.
I now practice minimalist ideas. And try to enjoy what I have left.
It's funny how things work out.but keep in mind what you have now might not be there tommorow.and what you can do today is something you will only be able to enjoy as memories later.
I am happy with my boat. I plan on keeping it long enough to give to my son and then I will get something else, maybe a used boat or make him take me fishing LOL. My boat is back at the factory for the second time with cracks in the hull. This time they ripped the floor up and doubled the stringers. I am not happy because it is not even 1 year old yet.
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