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Old 08-11-2011, 08:09 PM
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What is you opinion on entering private marsh areas and getting ran out of them by land owners are people that lease the land? Is it right, do you leave when told to leave are tell them to call the law. Louisiana has strict tresspassing laws that take up for land owners you dont even have to post your land and you can be ticketed are arrested for tresspassing.
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Old 08-11-2011, 08:45 PM
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I agree 100% with our laws.
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Old 08-11-2011, 08:49 PM
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If you don't know don't go!! Cameron parish is really funny bout this...they not gonna play wit cha.
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Old 08-13-2011, 08:11 PM
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If you don't know don't go!! Cameron parish is really funny bout this...they not gonna play wit cha.

You are right about Cameron parish. I work in Miami Corp marsh and they have charges against several people right now for going into the canals without the Miami permit and/or motor size too big.



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Old 08-11-2011, 08:49 PM
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What is the exact law. Can you be in a marsh that's private but got there by boat. For instance black lake lodge. I know you can get there by boat but you will be run off. I have permission to fish there from Kurt but don't bc I don't want to be harassed by his guys.
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Old 08-11-2011, 09:10 PM
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No signs needed. I know if we catch anyone in our marsh, we are told to get boat numbers and report them.
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:48 PM
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No signs needed. I know if we catch anyone in our marsh, we are told to get boat numbers and report them.
Yet some guides have no problem tieing up to our dock in West Cove or going down our private canal to fish the cuts. Cajun Phil even shot a tv show in there without our permission. But in 30 years we have never called the law and the only time we ask people to get off the dock is so we can fish.
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Old 08-13-2011, 05:51 PM
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Yet some guides have no problem tieing up to our dock in West Cove or going down our private canal to fish the cuts. Cajun Phil even shot a tv show in there without our permission. But in 30 years we have never called the law and the only time we ask people to get off the dock is so we can fish.


And your dock is where in the cove???
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:53 PM
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And your dock is where in the cove???
Over by that reef you almost started crying about when u saw we beat u there this morning! Lmao
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Old 08-13-2011, 08:33 PM
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Over by that reef you almost started crying about when u saw we beat u there this morning! Lmao
Well it must be nice to be in the same boat in which the owner claims that he "bought" some GPS points from someone else!!! It makes fishing a whole lot easier to have that advantage. And it still didn't help y'all even place. Yeah, now I am laughing! It's ok, I caught 56 fish today. I have PLENTY of my own spots to fish that I didn't have to buy from someone! So, one reef won't hurt me, trust me.
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Old 08-13-2011, 07:18 PM
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And your dock is where in the cove???
On the canal in the southwest corner. We have had the land on both sides of that canal leased for the last 30 years. We even had a camp there but it's been gone for awhile. The older members of the family drive the oilfield roads and 4 wheeler down to the dock. By law we could turn in every boat that goes past the mouth of the canal without permission. Also we could put a gate across the mouth of the canal. But we see that as being rather silly and as long as people make room when we showup to fish we don't worry about it.
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Old 08-13-2011, 08:36 PM
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On the canal in the southwest corner. We have had the land on both sides of that canal leased for the last 30 years. We even had a camp there but it's been gone for awhile. The older members of the family drive the oilfield roads and 4 wheeler down to the dock. By law we could turn in every boat that goes past the mouth of the canal without permission. Also we could put a gate across the mouth of the canal. But we see that as being rather silly and as long as people make room when we showup to fish we don't worry about it.
Didn't know that was ya'lls property. I thought it was Apache.
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Old 08-11-2011, 09:17 PM
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the law kinda sucks as far as if your not on main river boundries can get confuseing but it also helps out if its you property since now you dont have to fight posted signs being torn down
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Old 08-11-2011, 09:35 PM
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Being I live on a private canal, off the main river.

When people get smart with me saying," Its a navigable water way and all that b.s."

I say run through those culverts full speed, you will hit 1 foot of water, and thats not navigable according to the law, so get off of my culverts. You can not safely navigate through the culverts, so they are private.

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Old 08-11-2011, 09:51 PM
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Boatdriver let's not get into another fight again, we are cool now.

I grew up fishing in Grand Isle and only started fishing biglake three years ago. When my family and I decided to to buy land in the BigLake area I started booking trips with guides to learn the area. In a two year period I spent over 10K, I was serioius about learning how to fish the area and I still am.
A guide took me and my family to a spot on black lake that was very productive and he told me to go back to the spot anytime unless he was already there with a customer. I started fishing this spot off and on probably at least once a month. About a year and half ago I went back to this spot and a man on an airboat flew up to our boat nearly full throttle and almost knocked my then 3 year old and 6 year old boys in the water, my wife was terrified. The airboat had three grown men and I am sure all three were packing heat. They ordered me off of their land immediately and ran circles around my boat. I gladly moved, I had no idea I was on his land, the area I was in was a hugeseveral hundred yards flat.

Louisiana is one of if not the only state in country to have this law and no I do not agree with it. That being said, some people make honest mistakes and acting like a fool on the water being a tough guy v/s someone and their children is not the right way to do things.

Also fool I mean no disrespect to you but you need to be careful how you talk to people. While you may be a great fishermen and are well liked here, the fact is you are still a kid. You need to learn about treating people how you want to be treated and telling someone to "GTFO" would not be the way I would handle things especially when dealing with grown men and perhaps their family.

Before any of you start, I own a camp on a private canal, and various tracks of land and homes from Houston to Denham Springs. I do not care if someone fishing’s in "my" canal and if someone were on my land I would nicely ask them to leave. If they refused, then I would deal with it.
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Old 08-11-2011, 09:55 PM
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Boatdriver let's not get into another fight again, we are cool now.

I grew up fishing in Grand Isle and only started fishing biglake three years ago. When my family and I decided to to buy land in the BigLake area I started booking trips with guides to learn the area. In a two year period I spent over 10K, I was serioius about learning how to fish the area and I still am.
A guide took me and my family to a spot on black lake that was very productive and he told me to go back to the spot anytime unless he was already there with a customer. I started fishing this spot off and on probably at least once a month. About a year and half ago I went back to this spot and a man on an airboat flew up to our boat nearly full throttle and almost knocked my then 3 year old and 6 year old boys in the water, my wife was terrified. The airboat had three grown men and I am sure all three were packing heat. They ordered me off of their land immediately and ran circles around my boat. I gladly moved, I had no idea I was on his land, the area I was in was a hugeseveral hundred yards flat.

Louisiana is one of if not the only state in country to have this law and no I do not agree with it. That being said, some people make honest mistakes and acting like a fool on the water being a tough guy v/s someone and their children is not the right way to do things.

Also fool I mean no disrespect to you but you need to be careful how you talk to people. While you may be a great fishermen and are well liked here, the fact is you are still a kid. You need to learn about treating people how you want to be treated and telling someone to "GTFO" would not be the way I would handle things especially when dealing with grown men and perhaps their family.

Before any of you start, I own a camp on a private canal, and various tracks of land and homes from Houston to Denham Springs. I do not care if someone fishing’s in "my" canal and if someone were on my land I would nicely ask them to leave. If they refused, then I would deal with it.
Heavens no I don't open up and say that lol. I'm good. Get cocky and don't listen, we will bring law in. Usually let my neighbor handle the dirty work. I'm a firm believer in treat others how you want to be treated. I've been screwed over quiet a bit in private marshes and don't plan to let up on anyone. I have a duck boat and a river boat on ramps locked up on my canal the last thing I want is some one back there messing with them.
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Old 08-11-2011, 10:00 PM
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Heavens no I don't open up and say that lol. I'm good. Get cocky and don't listen, we will bring law in. Usually let my neighbor handle the dirty work.
I am glad to hear that, look if it is your land and the law is on your side then you have to protect it I have no problem with that. Someone making a mistake in their boat while trying to fish does not include malice.

It is a slippery slope, it starts with small little tracks of land and then before you know the oil company's decide they do not want people near their land/leases and then waterways we are all accustom to fishing like maybe Joe's cove are no longer accessible. I saw it happen in Golden Meadow.
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Old 08-11-2011, 11:53 PM
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grand isle is famous for this s#$^
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:01 AM
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If yall think this law is stupid. Go look at the sabine river laws.
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:20 AM
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Folks pay good money to lease land.....often there is waters on it.....you can get to my duck lease by water, does that mean you should be there?? NO!!!
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