What is a mud cat?

[Goooh]

Bullhead Catfish = Ameiurus = MUDCAT TO SOME

Flathead Catfish = Pylodictis Olivaris = MUDCAT/YELLOW CAT/APPALOOSA/OPELOUSAS TO SOME

[Insidiator]

Called Gougeon (sp?) by many older Cajuns. Pronounced "Goo-Jean" with silent n, rhymes with cochon, French for pig. Don't ask what it means.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Insidiator

Called Gougeon (sp?) by many older Cajuns. Pronounced "Goo-Jean" with silent n, rhymes with cochon, French for pig. Don't ask what it means.

means when you catch a mudcat, feed it to the pigs

[Tjethro85]

Originally Posted by Insidiator

Called Gougeon (sp?) by many older Cajuns. Pronounced "Goo-Jean" with silent n, rhymes with cochon, French for pig. Don't ask what it means.

The last part jean or jonne i believe is French for orange or yellow. The gou jonne is usually followed by a cai for cat. My stepdad from mamou has always called then that. He also said that any mullet that calls a fine tasting catfish such as a flathead a mud cat is not very bright.

[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by Tjethro85

The last part jean or jonne i believe is French for orange or yellow. The gou jonne is usually followed by a cai for cat. My stepdad from mamou has always called then that. He also said that any mullet that calls a fine tasting catfish such as a flathead a mud cat is not very bright.

I've always know Em as goujon also. Caille means spotted.

[Tjethro85]

[QUOTE=Top Dawg;710222]I've always know Em as goujon also. Caille means spotted.[/QUOTE

Yeah you're right. Cat is Chat

[mriguy]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

I've always know Em as goujon also. Caille means spotted.

This right here

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

I've always know Em as goujon also. Caille means spotted.

is this for the bullhead?

have heard both flatheads called spotted cats and yellow cats also, man this is confusing



cajun common names would be a good thread to start

[cajunduck man]

Originally Posted by Tjethro85

The last part jean or jonne i believe is French for orange or yellow. The gou jonne is usually followed by a cai for cat. My stepdad from mamou has always called then that. He also said that any mullet that calls a fine tasting catfish such as a flathead a mud cat is not very bright.

I agree with your step-dad about confusing a mud cat with a flathead. Actually in French, or in this case the Cajun French dialect a mudcat is called goujon in most areas. In the area around Mamou that your step-dad is from they did add the word jaune which is French for yellow; hence goujon-jaune (yellow catfish). The Opealousas catfish was referred to as a goujon-caille (spotted catfish, caille pronounced "ky" is French for spot or spotted). Other areas of Cajun country referred to a mudcat just goujon. My dad and his friends (Acadia and St. Landry Parish) often referred to an Opealousas cat by it's slang name in French "manche-ouaouaron" which translated literally means bullfrog eater. Blue cats and channel cats were called "barbue" (bar-boo). The word for cat is "chat" pronounced "shah" so if that was put on the end of the word in French around that area I'm glad that I was able to learn another name for that catfish. I'm sure that there were other names for these fish as many of these communities were pretty much isolated until after WWII and there were many dialects and slangs among the Cajun French. One of my favorites was the French word "caouanne" pronounced ka-wan. (short a and don't pronounce the n) which means logger-head or snapping turtle. In some areas, I guess it was because of snapping turtle the word was slang for something that women had and men wanted.

[redaddiction]

Originally Posted by cajunduck man

I agree with your step-dad about confusing a mud cat with a flathead. Actually in French, or in this case the Cajun French dialect a mudcat is called goujon in most areas. In the area around Mamou that your step-dad is from they did add the word jaune which is French for yellow; hence goujon-jaune (yellow catfish). The Opealousas catfish was referred to as a goujon-caille (spotted catfish, caille pronounced "ky" is French for spot or spotted). Other areas of Cajun country referred to a mudcat just goujon. My dad and his friends (Acadia and St. Landry Parish) often referred to an Opealousas cat by it's slang name in French "manche-ouaouaron" which translated literally means bullfrog eater. Blue cats and channel cats were called "barbue" (bar-boo). The word for cat is "chat" pronounced "shah" so if that was put on the end of the word in French around that area I'm glad that I was able to learn another name for that catfish. I'm sure that there were other names for these fish as many of these communities were pretty much isolated until after WWII and there were many dialects and slangs among the Cajun French. One of my favorites was the French word "caouanne" pronounced ka-wan. (short a and don't pronounce the n) which means logger-head or snapping turtle. In some areas, I guess it was because of snapping turtle the word was slang for something that women had and men wanted.

Nice history.

She gonna put that "Cawan" on ya!!

[AubreyLaHaye458]

Originally Posted by cajunduck man

I agree with your step-dad about confusing a mud cat with a flathead. Actually in French, or in this case the Cajun French dialect a mudcat is called goujon in most areas. In the area around Mamou that your step-dad is from they did add the word jaune which is French for yellow; hence goujon-jaune (yellow catfish). The Opealousas catfish was referred to as a goujon-caille (spotted catfish, caille pronounced "ky" is French for spot or spotted). Other areas of Cajun country referred to a mudcat just goujon. My dad and his friends (Acadia and St. Landry Parish) often referred to an Opealousas cat by it's slang name in French "manche-ouaouaron" which translated literally means bullfrog eater. Blue cats and channel cats were called "barbue" (bar-boo). The word for cat is "chat" pronounced "shah" so if that was put on the end of the word in French around that area I'm glad that I was able to learn another name for that catfish. I'm sure that there were other names for these fish as many of these communities were pretty much isolated until after WWII and there were many dialects and slangs among the Cajun French. One of my favorites was the French word "caouanne" pronounced ka-wan. (short a and don't pronounce the n) which means logger-head or snapping turtle. In some areas, I guess it was because of snapping turtle the word was slang for something that women had and men wanted.

This is awesome!


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[Goooh]

Originally Posted by cajunduck man

I agree with your step-dad about confusing a mud cat with a flathead. Actually in French, or in this case the Cajun French dialect a mudcat is called goujon in most areas. In the area around Mamou that your step-dad is from they did add the word jaune which is French for yellow; hence goujon-jaune (yellow catfish). The Opealousas catfish was referred to as a goujon-caille (spotted catfish, caille pronounced "ky" is French for spot or spotted). Other areas of Cajun country referred to a mudcat just goujon. My dad and his friends (Acadia and St. Landry Parish) often referred to an Opealousas cat by it's slang name in French "manche-ouaouaron" which translated literally means bullfrog eater. Blue cats and channel cats were called "barbue" (bar-boo). The word for cat is "chat" pronounced "shah" so if that was put on the end of the word in French around that area I'm glad that I was able to learn another name for that catfish. I'm sure that there were other names for these fish as many of these communities were pretty much isolated until after WWII and there were many dialects and slangs among the Cajun French. One of my favorites was the French word "caouanne" pronounced ka-wan. (short a and don't pronounce the n) which means logger-head or snapping turtle. In some areas, I guess it was because of snapping turtle the word was slang for something that women had and men wanted.

Goujon is actually a French automobile.

[cajunduck man]

Originally Posted by Goooh

Goujon is actually a French automobile.

I hope it runs better than that POS that I rode around in while I was in school in Belgium many moons ago.

[Tjethro85]

Originally Posted by cajunduck man

I agree with your step-dad about confusing a mud cat with a flathead. Actually in French, or in this case the Cajun French dialect a mudcat is called goujon in most areas. In the area around Mamou that your step-dad is from they did add the word jaune which is French for yellow; hence goujon-jaune (yellow catfish). The Opealousas catfish was referred to as a goujon-caille (spotted catfish, caille pronounced "ky" is French for spot or spotted). Other areas of Cajun country referred to a mudcat just goujon. My dad and his friends (Acadia and St. Landry Parish) often referred to an Opealousas cat by it's slang name in French "manche-ouaouaron" which translated literally means bullfrog eater. Blue cats and channel cats were called "barbue" (bar-boo). The word for cat is "chat" pronounced "shah" so if that was put on the end of the word in French around that area I'm glad that I was able to learn another name for that catfish. I'm sure that there were other names for these fish as many of these communities were pretty much isolated until after
WWII and there were many dialects and slangs among the Cajun French. One of my favorites was the French word "caouanne" pronounced ka-wan. (short a and don't pronounce the n) which means logger-head or snapping turtle. In some areas, I guess it was because of snapping turtle the word was slang for something that women had and men wanted.

Yeah he calls them a Caille for short sometimes. He also uses the term ga lour's (not sure on spelling) he says it gah luzz for the common snapping turtle. The man speaks French as good as or better than he does English lol

[Pull n Pray]

Originally Posted by cajunduck man

I agree with your step-dad about confusing a mud cat with a flathead. Actually in French, or in this case the Cajun French dialect a mudcat is called goujon in most areas. In the area around Mamou that your step-dad is from they did add the word jaune which is French for yellow; hence goujon-jaune (yellow catfish). The Opealousas catfish was referred to as a goujon-caille (spotted catfish, caille pronounced "ky" is French for spot or spotted). Other areas of Cajun country referred to a mudcat just goujon. My dad and his friends (Acadia and St. Landry Parish) often referred to an Opealousas cat by it's slang name in French "manche-ouaouaron" which translated literally means bullfrog eater. Blue cats and channel cats were called "barbue" (bar-boo). The word for cat is "chat" pronounced "shah" so if that was put on the end of the word in French around that area I'm glad that I was able to learn another name for that catfish. I'm sure that there were other names for these fish as many of these communities were pretty much isolated until after WWII and there were many dialects and slangs among the Cajun French. One of my favorites was the French word "caouanne" pronounced ka-wan. (short a and don't pronounce the n) which means logger-head or snapping turtle. In some areas, I guess it was because of snapping turtle the word was slang for something that women had and men wanted.

Around Marksville/Avoyelles parish the cajun's around there call the "mud cat" a pollywog. Has anyone else every heard of that? Does it translate to anything in French.

[Marshjugger]

Yea we call that polywog to around new iberia dunno if it has a meaning

[duckman1911]

It's a slang term used by people that don't know it's actually called a Bullhead. I have never heard anyone refer to a Flathead as a mudcat. Not saying it doesn't happen I've just never heard it.

[Duck Butter]

Common names can get confusing especially down here, everybody calls something by a different name referring to the same species.


a white perch in Louisiana isn't the same as a white perch in the north

what people call a 'pin oak' here isn't a true pin oak, we don't have true pin oaks in La

every brown snake in Louisiana is a 'ground rattler'

Heard several times of people calling moles that dig in the yard 'salamanders'. They would ask how to get rid of salamanders and to me a salamander is an amphibian but they kept calling them that. Well it was just a bastardization of the phrase 'soil mounder'.





(not sure what that last paragraph has to do with the subject or anything but anyway)

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

Common names can get confusing especially down here, everybody calls something by a different name referring to the same species.


a white perch in Louisiana isn't the same as a white perch in the north

what people call a 'pin oak' here isn't a true pin oak, we don't have true pin oaks in La

every brown snake in Louisiana is a 'ground rattler'

Heard several times of people calling moles that dig in the yard 'salamanders'. They would ask how to get rid of salamanders and to me a salamander is an amphibian but they kept calling them that. Well it was just a bastardization of the phrase 'soil mounder'.





(not sure what that last paragraph has to do with the subject or anything but anyway)

Can't tell you how many times I've had the "pin oak" argument with people. It's been a long time since high school ag class but its a water oak if I remember right. Help me out DB

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Can't tell you how many times I've had the "pin oak" argument with people. It's been a long time since high school ag class but its a water oak if I remember right. Help me out DB

my family calls willow oaks pin oaks but have also heard water oaks called pin oaks as well. Basically any oak flat that floods, you are hunting in a 'pin oak flat'

heard two sides of the argument for willow oaks as to why they are referred to as 'pin oaks', one is that the the leaf is long and pointed like a pin, the other is that these were the oaks that were found in the bottoms nearest the river, and the shipbuilders used this wood as the pins holding it together