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Old 08-25-2016, 12:06 PM
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No need to get so butthurt. I don't think being organized is a bad idea and I don't think anyone else does either. The thing is how does it get done and who foots the bill? People spent their own time and money to go help even though I'm sure some of them had a flooded house too. Training and organization will cost money. Yeah it may not have been perfect but it worked and people are alive because of it. After all of the training even first responders get in trouble and need to be rescued themselves.


Not butthurt I'm just wasn't going to sit here and get in a pissing match with ckinchen.... I know my job and I know what certain situations require and could possibly run better. The force I mentioned way back would be volunteer. Training could be done through a volunteer instructor. Red Cross has given health and safety classes for years through volunteer instructors. And like I believe you said earlier you were in a VFD. Well who did y'alls in house training? I'm going to assume it was a member who was not getting paid.
I also didn't say everyone had to go through an 80hr water rescue tech class and revert every year. All I was suggesting is adding a little familiarization with the organization and communication systems and they can work together. That is what the National Incident Management System is set up for. Multi jurisdictional multi hazard response. Everyone working together.
Did I every say what happens shouldn't have and ppl should have suffered? No I did not. I think this could serve as a big wake up to the state. Katrina should have been that wake up but that's neither here nor there. The state should help develop the organization through the GOHSEP office.
Like jchief stated earlier without organization comes chaos and with chaos undue danger. And this is coming from people who don't do it just every once in awhile but happens on a smaller scale many times that don't get the coverage.
Ckinchen posted that the navy should run around scooping up who you can see and leave the search grip to the FD. Well if that is so effective why were the Louisiana USAR cadaver dogs walking house to house in the aftermath. Now I know even when you are organized some can still get missed but why not give them more of a fighting chance??


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