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Old 07-28-2011, 05:28 AM
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You have rights man..in the right or in the wrong,never ever consent to a search.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:47 AM
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You have rights man..in the right or in the wrong,never ever consent to a search.
Last time I was pulled over he asked to search my truck. I said no. He said "I think you have drugs n there" and called a k9 unit. Dog did a few laps around my truck and didn't signal so the handler put his hand near the glass on my door and snapped his fingers. Well, the dog stands up and touched the handlers fingers with his nose. Officer said "he's signalling on your door, I'm going in". Got me for open container. Was B.S. but didnt really have to time to fight it. That was 3yrs ago and I'm still dealing with it.........its been horrible!!

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Old 07-28-2011, 09:15 AM
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You have rights man..in the right or in the wrong,never ever consent to a search.
Spoken like a true immature male that thinks he knows the law!!!:*****:
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:30 AM
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Spoken like a true immature male that thinks he knows the law!!!:*****:
What if I don't want a complete stranger rifling through my vehicle? They may also scatter or lose my belongings, not to mention the fact that they can even go to pulling dash/door panels, ceiling liner, fuel tank, and so on. If it’s an aircraft they can completely disassemble it and choose not to reassemble. What if it’s a crooked cop with a reason to plant false evidence? There are plenty of reasons to refuse a search, even with nothing to hide.
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:49 AM
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What if I don't want a complete stranger rifling through my vehicle? They may also scatter or lose my belongings, not to mention the fact that they can even go to pulling dash/door panels, ceiling liner, fuel tank, and so on. If it’s an aircraft they can completely disassemble it and choose not to reassemble. What if it’s a crooked cop with a reason to plant false evidence? There are plenty of reasons to refuse a search, even with nothing to hide.
Bruce, I have only knowledge of this happening one time and it was at Brownsville Tx airport back in the 70's. The pilot copped an attitude with customs flying back into the states and they called his hand. The breakdown of society started with a lack of respect for authority which began with the Peace movement of the 60's. Last time I checked, the right to drive was not in the Constitution. It is a priviledge guarded by law enforcement. Give respect get respect, it is and has always been a two way street but act like a turd and the LEO's will respond accordingly.
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:52 AM
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What if I don't want a complete stranger rifling through my vehicle? They may also scatter or lose my belongings, not to mention the fact that they can even go to pulling dash/door panels, ceiling liner, fuel tank, and so on. If it’s an aircraft they can completely disassemble it and choose not to reassemble. What if it’s a crooked cop with a reason to plant false evidence? There are plenty of reasons to refuse a search, even with nothing to hide.
Grasping at straws!!!!! If I smelled Maryjane, and they refused a search, I got the dog out. If the dog alerted, I searched until I found it - plain and simple! It may have only been a roach in the ashtray, or a couple of pieces that fell on the floor while he rolled his last joint from a nickle bag. If that was the case, that car got taken apart! Dashboard, headliner, door panels, hell- I even got a socket set out and took out the seats of a Camaro once over some "residue"!!! When I was finished, I laughed, wrote him a simple possesion ticket and left him on the side of the road. I told him next time he refused a search, over a simple possesion charge he may want to rethink his "jailhouse lawyer" thinking! If he would have come clean and said "hey, I got a doobie in my cigarettes, he had a ticket and was on his way. I worked interstate patrol and was looking for large amounts of drugs, cash, stolen cars and fugitives. If he wanted to waste my time over something as small as that, I was going to waste his. If I would not have wrote him the ticket, I could have been charged with damages to his vehicle. Since I found the residue, tested positive for THC, and it was filmed - he got to drive off and go fix his car, then come to court and see the judge.

Guys, you will not win when you go to battle w/ the law. No matter how you slice it, you will lose! Get that in your head. Even if you are clean, and refuse a search, you can be on the side of the road for a very long time. I had the right to let the driver leave the scene, but that vehicle has no rights and was staying right there! Do you know how long it takes to get a search warrant on a weekend, and at night! Those judges are hard to track down sometimes, and they will issue a search warrant - EVERYTIME! But, we have to find them. If the judge is at his camp, or out to supper with his wife, or visiting his grandkids, your vehicle is stuck on the side of the road until it is done. I use to always get the runaround from people just like you guys here saying, "I don't have anything, but your not searching". Well, you may be right about not having anything, but if my dog told me it was there, than that car was staying right there until I let you go or made an arrest. Call me a douche, call me a Ahole, but at the end of the day it was my job that supported my family and I was paid to find dope.

Hah! Just remembered a guy that was DWI and I was being called to assist Jeff Davis with a search when they need a dog on I-10. I opened the guys trunk, threw his keys in, and closed it. Figured by the time he got them out he would be sober! They have ways of getting justice without the court, and sometimes it's a lot better than the court justice anyway!

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Old 07-28-2011, 10:05 AM
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Grasping at straws!!!!! If I smelled Maryjane, and they refused a search, I got the dog out. If the dog alerted, I searched until I found it - plain and simple! It may have only been a roach in the ashtray, or a couple of pieces that fell on the floor while he rolled his last joint from a nickle bag. If that was the case, that car got taken apart! Dashboard, headliner, door panels, hell- I even got a socket set out and took out the seats of a Camaro once over some "residue"!!! When I was finished, I laughed, wrote him a simple possesion ticket and left him on the side of the road. I told him next time he refused a search, over a simple possesion charge he may want to rethink his "jailhouse lawyer" thinking! If he would have come clean and said "hey, I got a doobie in my cigarettes, he had a ticket and was on his way. I worked interstate patrol and was looking for large amounts of drugs, cash, stolen cars and fugitives. If he wanted to waste my time over something as small as that, I was going to waste his. If I would not have wrote him the ticket, I could have been charged with damages to his vehicle. Since I found the residue, tested positive for THC, and it was filmed - he got to drive off and go fix his car, then come to court and see the judge.

Guys, you will not win when you go to battle w/ the law. No matter how you slice it, you will lose! Get that in your head. Even if you are clean, and refuse a search, you can be on the side of the road for a very long time. I had the right to let the driver leave the scene, but that vehicle has no rights and was staying right there! Do you know how long it takes to get a search warrant on a weekend, and at night! Those judges are hard to track down sometimes, and they will issue a search warrant - EVERYTIME! But, we have to find them. If the judge is at his camp, or out to supper with his wife, or visiting his grandkids, your vehicle is stuck on the side of the road until it is done. I use to always get the runaround from people just like you guys here saying, "I don't have anything, but your not searching". Well, you may be right about not having anything, but if my dog told me it was there, than that car was staying right there until I let you go or made an arrest. Call me a douche, call me a Ahole, but at the end of the day it was my job that supported my family and I was paid to find dope.

Hah! Just remembered a guy that was DWI and I was being called to assist Jeff Davis with a search when they need a dog on I-10. I opened the guys trunk, threw his keys in, and closed it. Figured by the time he got them out he would be sober! They have ways of getting justice without the court, and sometimes it's a lot better than the court justice anyway!

Have a nice day and remember to support your local law enforcement!
One of my older brothers is a Alexandria City cop. Trust me, what FIN is saying is 100% correct. The harder you make it on the cops they will make it 1,000X harder on you!
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:06 PM
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Grasping at straws!!!!! If I smelled Maryjane, and they refused a search, I got the dog out. If the dog alerted, I searched until I found it - plain and simple! It may have only been a roach in the ashtray, or a couple of pieces that fell on the floor while he rolled his last joint from a nickle bag. If that was the case, that car got taken apart! Dashboard, headliner, door panels, hell- I even got a socket set out and took out the seats of a Camaro once over some "residue"!!! When I was finished, I laughed, wrote him a simple possesion ticket and left him on the side of the road. I told him next time he refused a search, over a simple possesion charge he may want to rethink his "jailhouse lawyer" thinking! If he would have come clean and said "hey, I got a doobie in my cigarettes, he had a ticket and was on his way. I worked interstate patrol and was looking for large amounts of drugs, cash, stolen cars and fugitives. If he wanted to waste my time over something as small as that, I was going to waste his. If I would not have wrote him the ticket, I could have been charged with damages to his vehicle. Since I found the residue, tested positive for THC, and it was filmed - he got to drive off and go fix his car, then come to court and see the judge.

Guys, you will not win when you go to battle w/ the law. No matter how you slice it, you will lose! Get that in your head. Even if you are clean, and refuse a search, you can be on the side of the road for a very long time. I had the right to let the driver leave the scene, but that vehicle has no rights and was staying right there! Do you know how long it takes to get a search warrant on a weekend, and at night! Those judges are hard to track down sometimes, and they will issue a search warrant - EVERYTIME! But, we have to find them. If the judge is at his camp, or out to supper with his wife, or visiting his grandkids, your vehicle is stuck on the side of the road until it is done. I use to always get the runaround from people just like you guys here saying, "I don't have anything, but your not searching". Well, you may be right about not having anything, but if my dog told me it was there, than that car was staying right there until I let you go or made an arrest. Call me a douche, call me a Ahole, but at the end of the day it was my job that supported my family and I was paid to find dope.

Hah! Just remembered a guy that was DWI and I was being called to assist Jeff Davis with a search when they need a dog on I-10. I opened the guys trunk, threw his keys in, and closed it. Figured by the time he got them out he would be sober! They have ways of getting justice without the court, and sometimes it's a lot better than the court justice anyway!

Have a nice day and remember to support your local law enforcement!

Ok so I don't drink/smoke and if some cop would ask to search my car and I say no, but he does it anyway and he doesn't find anything. I can laugh at him while he has to pay to fix up my disassembled car? Completely worth it if you ask me. And you proved that cops are Aholes, maybe not you, but you definitely made all other cops look that way lol

On a side note thanks for the advice
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:18 PM
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Ok so I don't drink/smoke and if some cop would ask to search my car and I say no, but he does it anyway and he doesn't find anything. I can laugh at him while he has to pay to fix up my disassembled car? Completely worth it if you ask me. And you proved that cops are Aholes, maybe not you, but you definitely made all other cops look that way lol

On a side note thanks for the advice

I hope you dont really think they will have to fix your car...
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:04 PM
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I hope you dont really think they will have to fix your car...

well according to FFF if the cop disassembles the vehicle and does NOT write him a ticket, the cop would be charged with damage to the vehicle. With that said, I would think that the cop would put the vehicle back together to cover his rear end
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Grasping at straws!!!!! If I smelled Maryjane, and they refused a search, I got the dog out. If the dog alerted, I searched until I found it - plain and simple! It may have only been a roach in the ashtray, or a couple of pieces that fell on the floor while he rolled his last joint from a nickle bag. If that was the case, that car got taken apart! Dashboard, headliner, door panels, hell- I even got a socket set out and took out the seats of a Camaro once over some "residue"!!! When I was finished, I laughed, wrote him a simple possesion ticket and left him on the side of the road. I told him next time he refused a search, over a simple possesion charge he may want to rethink his "jailhouse lawyer" thinking! If he would have come clean and said "hey, I got a doobie in my cigarettes, he had a ticket and was on his way. I worked interstate patrol and was looking for large amounts of drugs, cash, stolen cars and fugitives. If he wanted to waste my time over something as small as that, I was going to waste his. If I would not have wrote him the ticket, I could have been charged with damages to his vehicle. Since I found the residue, tested positive for THC, and it was filmed - he got to drive off and go fix his car, then come to court and see the judge.

Guys, you will not win when you go to battle w/ the law. No matter how you slice it, you will lose! Get that in your head. Even if you are clean, and refuse a search, you can be on the side of the road for a very long time. I had the right to let the driver leave the scene, but that vehicle has no rights and was staying right there! Do you know how long it takes to get a search warrant on a weekend, and at night! Those judges are hard to track down sometimes, and they will issue a search warrant - EVERYTIME! But, we have to find them. If the judge is at his camp, or out to supper with his wife, or visiting his grandkids, your vehicle is stuck on the side of the road until it is done. I use to always get the runaround from people just like you guys here saying, "I don't have anything, but your not searching". Well, you may be right about not having anything, but if my dog told me it was there, than that car was staying right there until I let you go or made an arrest. Call me a douche, call me a Ahole, but at the end of the day it was my job that supported my family and I was paid to find dope.

Hah! Just remembered a guy that was DWI and I was being called to assist Jeff Davis with a search when they need a dog on I-10. I opened the guys trunk, threw his keys in, and closed it. Figured by the time he got them out he would be sober! They have ways of getting justice without the court, and sometimes it's a lot better than the court justice anyway!

Have a nice day and remember to support your local law enforcement!


EVERY COP THAT HAS EVER TOLD ME TO TELL ME THE TRUTH UP FRONT WAS A LIAR. you got one beer and pass his sobriety test. you still going to go take a breathalizer.....isn't this your job what else is there for you to do. How would he be wasting your time. they sure the hell ain't going to the projects and finding the dope. cops feed on people that can pay. that is why the harrass the motorist. I don't speed, i don't drink and drive and i don't do drugs. so these *****s stop me and want to give me a hard time. i damn sure ain't just rolling over. cause 90 percent of the time they search you they gonna write you something so they don't look like they are the idiots they are and I for one is not going to make it easy for them.......Sorry just have had to many runins with power tripping cops thinking they better than you cause they wear a badge..........
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EVERY COP THAT HAS EVER TOLD ME TO TELL ME THE TRUTH UP FRONT WAS A LIAR. you got one beer and pass his sobriety test. you still going to go take a breathalizer.....isn't this your job what else is there for you to do. How would he be wasting your time. they sure the hell ain't going to the projects and finding the dope. cops feed on people that can pay. that is why the harrass the motorist. I don't speed, i don't drink and drive and i don't do drugs. so these *****s stop me and want to give me a hard time. i damn sure ain't just rolling over. cause 90 percent of the time they search you they gonna write you something so they don't look like they are the idiots they are and I for one is not going to make it easy for them.......Sorry just have had to many runins with power tripping cops thinking they better than you cause they wear a badge..........

you sure as hell right about that!! I know if they'd go into the projects around my house, they'd probably have those lambo cop cars by now. Problem is that the folks in the projects "iz dey cuzins"
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you sure as hell right about that!! I know if they'd go into the projects around my house, they'd probably have those lambo cop cars by now. Problem is that the folks in the projects "iz dey cuzins"
dey cuzins aint got no money,thats why they stop law abiding citizens with money
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you sure as hell right about that!! I know if they'd go into the projects around my house, they'd probably have those lambo cop cars by now. Problem is that the folks in the projects "iz dey cuzins"
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EVERY COP THAT HAS EVER TOLD ME TO TELL ME THE TRUTH UP FRONT WAS A LIAR. you got one beer and pass his sobriety test. you still going to go take a breathalizer.....isn't this your job what else is there for you to do. How would he be wasting your time. they sure the hell ain't going to the projects and finding the dope. cops feed on people that can pay. that is why the harrass the motorist. I don't speed, i don't drink and drive and i don't do drugs. so these *****s stop me and want to give me a hard time. i damn sure ain't just rolling over. cause 90 percent of the time they search you they gonna write you something so they don't look like they are the idiots they are and I for one is not going to make it easy for them.......Sorry just have had to many runins with power tripping cops thinking they better than you cause they wear a badge..........
Very well said!!!
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Thank god you're a FORMER LEO, it these kind of ******* moves that gives all LEO's a bad name. Hopefully you got your "complex" figured out and you don't abuse your authority anymore.
yep, I all fixed........but I trained alot of young ones to insure that they did the job right for people like you!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!! Happy travels!!!!!!!
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Great post Bruce! Afterall, Louisiana's per capita rate of crooked cops is very well known, only way my vehicle is getting searched is incident to arrest...
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I fully support people like Finfeatherfur glad to hear the positive about law enforcement. The knife incident is easy to solve just make a phone call and if you PM me I can also give you the name of the person to talk to. The knife is taken for safety reason and I would much rather someone take my knife then shoot me for thinking I was going for a knife or other weapon. If you don't think a knife can do some major damge up to death again PM me I have pictures. Also just listen to the news of all the law enforcement officers attacked or shot everyday. As far as the search with or without K-9 the dogs or trained now days to make a silent indication so not to give away what just happened and the ball is a treat for the indication. Use to it was a lot of scratching to indicate now it is different and I'm not giving up the secerets to what the indication is it is different for every K-9 now. I will say all of law enforcement now utilizes video and audio in the units so make the complaint they will play it back and see if there was or wasn't wrong doing. Also before this is said "the video can be erased" the answer is no it can not no way no how.

As said eariler support your local law enforcement.
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