15 Trout Limit Discussion PUBLIC

["W"]

Originally Posted by Salty

You gonna screw around and get the limit dropped to 10 with all your "info".

Like what was dicussed today in private ,we may not get the power to over turn it until its to late , but he have the ammo to never allow it below 15 for many many many years to come

From a biologist stand point we can support around a 30 per person trout limit as of today

[Salty]

Originally Posted by "W"

Like what was dicussed today in private ,we may not get the power to over turn it until its to late , but he have the ammo to never allow it below 15 for many many many years to come

From a biologist stand point we can support around a 30 per person trout limit as of today

W, there are people in control of this situation. They are not going to allow it to be "to late".

Interesting how you wrote, "From a biologist stand point we". I think you actually believe that.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Salty

W, there are people in control of this situation. They are not going to allow it to be "to late".

Interesting how you wrote, "From a biologist stand point we". I think you actually believe that.

Your wrong again old timer....they ignored the facts the 1st time...they brushed off bioloigest and scientist by using money to get this past
Had zero to do with helping or hurting...they assumed with zero facts

So don't think for one second "to late" can't become too late when office fisherman ignore facts and use "in case or we assume " as facts

[Smoke Shack BBQ]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Wow! Are we really going to assess the validity of scientific assertions by the outcome of bureaucratic processes?

I think I knew better than this by the time I completed the 6th grade at T.H. Watkins Elementary School.

Have you ever been to Louisiana? It's all about who you know, who you bleaux and how much you pay for the privilege of both.

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[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Smoke Shack BBQ

Have you ever been to Louisiana? It's all about who you know, who you bleaux and how much you pay for the privilege of both.

Sent from my PG06100 using Tapatalk 2

T.H. Watkins elementary school is in Lake Charles. I graduated from high school in Metairie, and my first laboratory job was in fisheries science at LSU. I eventually graduated from LSU with a Bachelor's degree in Physics, first in my class.

Please note the actual reasoning in my statement:

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Wow! Are we really going to assess the validity of scientific assertions by the outcome of bureaucratic processes?

I think I knew better than this by the time I completed the 6th grade at T.H. Watkins Elementary School.

I am not saying that I expect the science to have a great impact on the bureaucratic process, that could go either way.

I am saying that it is folly to assess the validity of science from whether it sways the bureaucrats.

In any case, better to have sound science, so at least some of the voting public can be informed and the refusal of bureaucrats to make wise decisions can be public knowledge.

[Top Dawg]

With good reason.

[jldsc]

looks like some solid facts to carry a very heafty argument???!!!!!

[Top Dawg]

Wonder what the "glass half empty" people are gonna say about that?

[jdm4x43732]

what ever it is, let's hear it........

[jdm4x43732]

Beginning June 20, anglers fishing the Louisiana waters of Sabine Lake and the Calcasieu Lake bay system south of Lake Charles will be limited to taking no more than 15 speckled trout per day, down 10 fish from Louisiana's current statewide 25-trout daily limit.
The trout limit cut was adopted by a 4-3 vote of the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission at that group's June 1 meeting.
The close commission vote underscored the contentiousness of the move affecting coastal waters, which over the past decade have become increasingly popular destinations of Texas anglers.
That increasing fishing pressure on Calcasieu and, to a lesser extent, Sabine Lake triggered concerns by some Louisiana anglers that the speckled trout population faced overharvest and needed additional protection.
Earlier this decade, concern over anglers, particularly Texas anglers, catching and retaining many large speckled trout from the Calcasieu Lake system generated a move to restrict harvest of those large trout.
The LWF Commission imposed a rule limiting anglers fishing Louisiana waters in the Calcasieu and Sabine systems and the corresponding offshore waters under Louisiana jurisdiction to retaining no more than two speckled trout measuring 25 inches or more.
The move to cut the daily bag limit from 25 specks to 15 was pushed by a coalition including the Louisiana chapter of the Coastal Conservation Association and some of the fishing guides and outfitters operating on Calcasieu Lake.
In January, when the proposal to reduce the trout bag limit in the Calcasieu and Sabine systems was officially proposed, the Louisiana CCA issued a "position paper" on the issue.
The organization said a survey of its 30,000 members indicated 85 percent who regularly fished Calcasieu Lake and 76 percent of all members supported the bag limit reduction in the southwest corner of the state.
During the LWF Commis-
sion meeting, Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries coastal fisheries staff told the group the agency's biological data indicates speckled trout fisheries in the bay systems were healthy and said reducing the bag limit would not guarantee increased trout populations in the affected areas.
Those opposed to the bag limit reduction said the fisheries staff's assessment showed the move was not scientifically justified and should not be imposed.

["W"]

And I'm the crazy one who nobody likes.....guess sometimes you have to stomp on toes to get things moving....I'm glad and appreciate everyone who contributed to this post with sold info

I hope when we get our final document ready we can impress them enough to get our trout limits back were Biologist said they need to be..(not office fisherman)

["W"]

And ....

[Top Dawg]

I target big trout. But I eat em too

[Salty]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

I target big trout. But I eat em too

You also compared the Calcasieu estuary to a "pond".

[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by Salty

You also compared the Calcasieu estuary to a "pond".

With a river running through it.

[Salty]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

With a river running through it.

Ha Ha....you didn't know that until I told ya.

[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by Salty

Ha Ha....you didn't know that until I told ya.

Oh that's right. Didn't know it. We weren't here when the ship channel was dug, unlike you.

[rustyb]

I havent fished enough trout in Big Lake to make a stand, But I have gotten one hell of a lesson. Awesome thread. I think I agree with EVERYBODY....almost!

Is it me or do I sense a little tension in the air?

[PaulMyers]

Originally Posted by rustyb

Is it me or do I sense a little tension in the air?

Just a little?

["W"]

Just ignore Salty....dude is old as dirt and has not caught a trout since last ice age....he just like to cause conflict to keep this post going