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swamp snorkler · #1 07-09-2013, 02:16 PM

I have a cousin who is openly gay, he just came out the closet about 6 years ago, I been knowing since he was 3 or 4 he was going to be gay. I honestly believe he was born that way. He was even engaged to get married to a girl. I have to give him props for trying to be straight but I guess it wasn't his thing.

mr crab · #2 07-09-2013, 03:04 PM

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I have a cousin who is openly gay, he just came out the closet about 6 years ago, I been knowing since he was 3 or 4 he was going to be gay. I honestly believe he was born that way. He was even engaged to get married to a girl. I have to give him props for trying to be straight but I guess it wasn't his thing.

I totally know what you mean. A little boy that was a few years older than my oldest daughter used to come over all the time and play with my daughters. To say this kid had a little sugar in his tank would be putting it lightly. But he was only about 8-9 at the time so I don't think he knew what sex was, much less what gay was. But sure as shootin.....kid turned out queer as a 3 dollar bill. I honestly think he was born that way. Not a choice he made, therefore not something he should be judged on. I do not think that all gays are born that way though. I think a lot of them gravitate to that lifestyle for social reasons or attention that it brings them.

bgizzle · #3 07-09-2013, 02:49 PM

They way gay people live their life may be wrong by the bible.... But they also live their life to be free.. Like all of us on here we want to be free to make our own descisions and free to speak openly etc... Who are you/me to cast a shadow on them bc they chose to live a different lifestyle than the norm or what you or I call the norm. This is their norm! Chemical imbalance, rebel, or any other reason why they are who they are they are American citizens who pay taxes. Think about this.... What if it were you who dared to be different than the rest of the normal world full of corruption and crazy mofos. And instead of turning the other cheak people steady kicked you when you were down repeatedly over and over and over and over and over. It would get old quick. And you would probably retaliate or rebel and find a way for your voice or opinion to be heard..... Hints: THE GAY FLAG

jdunbar · #4 07-09-2013, 02:58 PM

doesn't it say somewhere in there to "love thy neighbor"? I thought that religion was supposed to preach tolerance, and peace.

Matt G · #5 07-09-2013, 03:03 PM

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doesn't it say somewhere in there to "love thy neighbor"? I thought that religion was supposed to preach tolerance, and peace.

Tell that to the jihadist killing in the name of their religion........ How many wars have been fought based on religion throughout history? Even Christians are guilty of it.

swamp snorkler · #6 07-09-2013, 03:10 PM

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Tell that to the jihadist killing in the name of their religion........ How many wars have been fought based on religion throughout history? Even Christians are guilty of it.

80%, the others are faught over borders or oil

jdunbar · #7 07-09-2013, 03:15 PM

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Tell that to the jihadist killing in the name of their religion........ How many wars have been fought based on religion throughout history? Even Christians are guilty of it.

don't lie, don't cheat, don't steal, don't kill

that's all the religion I need...

Matt G · #8 07-09-2013, 03:25 PM

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don't lie, don't cheat, don't steal, don't kill

that's all the religion I need...

Myself included. I have never read th bible and I don't intend to because I do not need a book written over 1,000 years ago to tell me how to live. Nor do I need a book written yesterday to tell me how to live. I live my life by what I assume is right. Some of it was taken from the Catholic religion and some was taken from pure common sense. It has kept me out of prison thus far. Will it get me into heaven? Hopefully!

Pat Babaz · #9 07-09-2013, 03:17 PM

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doesn't it say somewhere in there to "love thy neighbor"? I thought that religion was supposed to preach tolerance, and peace.

Homosexuallity is clearly a sin in both the old and new testaments of the bible. Just like any other sin, the bible tells us to hate the sin and not the sinner. I believe we are to pray for their salvation and encourgage thier repentance while at the same time not condoning the sinful behavior.

mikedatiger · #10 07-09-2013, 03:27 PM

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Homosexuallity is clearly a sin in both the old and new testaments of the bible. Just like any other sin, the bible tells us to hate the sin and not the sinner. I believe we are to pray for their salvation and encourgage thier repentance while at the same time not condoning the sinful behavior.

They didn't even have a word for homesexuality back in biblical times so it can be interpreted however someone wants to interpret it.

While I don't condone the practice, what two consenting adults do behind closed doors is their own business. Homosexuality has always existed and is well documented over the course of history. Even the mighty spartans openly participated in homosexual acts - so I guess I am saying, time to move on...

swamp snorkler · #11 07-09-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat Babaz

Homosexuallity is clearly a sin in both the old and new testaments of the bible. Just like any other sin, the bible tells us to hate the sin and not the sinner. I believe we are to pray for their salvation and encourgage thier repentance while at the same time not condoning the sinful behavior.

You can pray till you blue in the face for some peoples salvation and it's not going to happen. For these people Jesus taught that you should knock the dust off your sandals and move on. Matthew 10:14

Montauk17 · #12 07-09-2013, 03:00 PM

If people want to rebel and live that lifestyle that's there business,but when you raise a flag for gay pride you openly raise debate. Keep it to yourself don't bring the whole community into the mix. Just my opinion...

bgizzle · #13 07-09-2013, 03:03 PM

^^^^hmmmm^^^^

Goooh · #14 07-09-2013, 03:13 PM

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Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.

Even so, people are free to do as they please. Freedom of religion also means freedom to not follow the bible, I respect others people's freedoms just as they should respect mine

Montauk17 · #15 07-09-2013, 03:17 PM

I agree religion divides people....I could type for hours but it's not worth it.

Montauk17 · #16 07-09-2013, 03:18 PM

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jdunbar · #17 07-09-2013, 03:28 PM

exactly...

Ragin_Cajun · #18 07-09-2013, 03:54 PM

This is how ULL got in the mix.

http://theadvocate.com/home/3331432-...-studies-minor

I know some very heavy doners to the university that refuse to give another penny to the university because of this. Their family name in on one of the buildings!

"W" · #19 07-09-2013, 03:56 PM

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This is how ULL got in the mix.

http://theadvocate.com/home/3331432-...-studies-minor

I know some very heavy doners to the university that refuse to give another penny to the university because of this. Their family name in on one of the buildings!

Now we know why ASR is such a big USL fan!!! He is a Packer, , Mean Backer