Triple tail limit coming

["W"]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

How many did you catch on tournament day?
Seems people who don't fish near that amount on 'you're' lake didn't have a problem catching over there

That is a very cool story though bro, what does the amount of time you spend on Big Lake have to do with CCA and/or tripletail limits?

I think your frustration with the limits on Big Lake are finally narrowed down to Henry Mouton. He says it all in his letter that he was the 'soul' driving force between that, and then over 70% of folks were behind it, thats a vast majority, but of course none have as much expertise as you and your vote should count more though right?
#andherecomesthepostabouthowalltheguideswantedthel owerlimitsbecausetheycan'tfish
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Been fun w, til next time

tune in next week when we revisit how 'the weirs are killing the lake'

^^^^Yep he is defeated ...

Keep drinking the PURPLE DRANK

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by "W"

^^^^Yep he is defeated ...

Keep drinking the PURPLE DRANK

don't be going all crazy and getting this in the Gill Net tonight, there are many more issues to talk about here before we have all the bases covered;
weirs specifically there has to be some connection with CCA putting in the weirs or weirs affecting tripletail or something along those lines

[meaux fishing]

Don't be getting too crazy on my tripletail thread now... There's lots of good info in here and I don't want it to disappear into the nether regions of the gillnet

[meaux fishing]

You can abuse the CCA thread all you want

[speck-chaser]

Well, all I know is that Ive never caught a 3 tail, so Im writing to Obama and complain about all them better fishermen out there that wont give me my fair share.

[Montauk17]

Originally Posted by speck-chaser

Well, all I know is that Ive never caught a 3 tail, so Im writing to Obama and complain about all them better fishermen out there that wont give me my fair share.

Lol good one...that makes two of us

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by speck-chaser

Well, all I know is that Ive never caught a 3 tail, so Im writing to Obama and complain about all them better fishermen out there that wont give me my fair share.

I don't remember if I ever caught a tripletail as a child, certainly I haven't in my adult life. But the broader issue is whether or not it is wise for a few whiners peddling pseudoscience to criminalize harmless activities pursued by others.

And this business that sound science is not possible with a migratory species is bunk. Each year, the SEAMAP program takes icthyoplankton cruises sampling thorough out the continental shelf of the Gulf of Mexico. The data on larval finfishes includes tripletail at least back to the early eighties. If the breeding size fish were recently imperiled by fishing, the data would show a pronounced decrease in larval specimens of this species.

["W"]

All you have to do is Google

Triple tail limit / or Will Drost
And they are together like white on rice!!


If you dont want to keep more than 5 then dont... if you dont want more than 5 trout then dont keep more than 5

If every state around us is regulated that should be more than enough to protect them

[AceArcher]

While it's certainly nice to find that MG and W are getting along so famously now, I still have failed to hear 1 answer to one very important question yet.

The purpose of this thread, and the Poll on such is to encourage people to remove their financial support from the CCA.

The question that has not been answered is what is going to take it's place?

Because reality is, if something doesn't very very quickly, then the commercial fishing lobby is going to be able to declare open season on red's, trout, triple tail .... you name it..

We all know what BL and the marsh is gonna look like after commercial operations gear up and get to work.

Think it won't happen if there is not a strong group fighting against it???? You better think again, The commercial fishing lobby has got plenty of money to bribe everyone from DC down.

[biggun]

Guys I found this article from 2009..

Researchers Jim Franks and Read Hendon in the University of Southern Mississippi Gulf Coast Research Lab's Center for Fisheries Research and Development have made new findings about tripletail as part of ongoing biological studies of this unique species.
They include:

-- The species occurs seasonally in northern Gulf waters.
-- They can be found in offshore, marine waters or in brackish, estuarine waters throughout the summer.
-- They appear to use estuarine waters as feeding grounds.

From a Franks study of fish in Mississippi waters of the Mississippi Sound, they discovered:
-- They spawn from June through August with a peak in July in Mississippi waters.
-- It is assumed they migrate offshore to spawn. No females collected within the Mississippi Sound during the study were in imminent spawning condition, which means they would spawn within the next 24 hours from the time observed.
-- 50 percent of all female tripletail collected were sexually mature at 17cm HALF inches total length.

-- 100 percent of females were sexually mature at 19cm TQTR inches total length.


-- It has been difficult to adequately age tripletail due to difficulties in "reading" annular rings on otoliths (ear bones) — the standard measure by which all fish with such bones are aged.



My question is what percentage of fish caught ARE females?

I have NO PROBLEM with a 5 fish limit..

But I would like to see say; (5 over 12") to start then go from there..

Or why not a slot limit???

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by biggun

Guys I found this article from 2009..

Researchers Jim Franks and Read Hendon in the University of Southern Mississippi Gulf Coast Research Lab's Center for Fisheries Research and Development have made new findings about tripletail as part of ongoing biological studies of this unique species.
They include:

-- The species occurs seasonally in northern Gulf waters.
-- They can be found in offshore, marine waters or in brackish, estuarine waters throughout the summer.
-- They appear to use estuarine waters as feeding grounds.

From a Franks study of fish in Mississippi waters of the Mississippi Sound, they discovered:
-- They spawn from June through August with a peak in July in Mississippi waters.
-- It is assumed they migrate offshore to spawn. No females collected within the Mississippi Sound during the study were in imminent spawning condition, which means they would spawn within the next 24 hours from the time observed.
-- 50 percent of all female tripletail collected were sexually mature at 17cm HALF inches total length.

-- 100 percent of females were sexually mature at 19cm TQTR inches total length.


-- It has been difficult to adequately age tripletail due to difficulties in "reading" annular rings on otoliths (ear bones) — the standard measure by which all fish with such bones are aged.



My question is what percentage of fish caught ARE females?

I have NO PROBLEM with a 5 fish limit..

But I would like to see say; (5 over 12") to start then go from there..

Or why not a slot limit???

So according to this study........a female triple tale is sexually mature at 19cm which is about 8 inch long. Not the 18" length that has been used in other post.

OR......if you look closer at what is said above.....it actually says, INCHES.

[boatdriver]

I'll chime in with one post and that's it. On the day when myself and two other buddies caught 94 in one day, I can honestly say that we MIGHT have caught 2% of tripletail tha we actually saw. The rip we were fishing was literally miles long. We only went 1.3 miles along the rip to catch what we caught. On the second day, my boat caught 51. Of the three boats, there were 101 fish caught. On the second day, the rip had dipersed, so the fish were scattered and skittish. Those 2 days were unreal. To say it'll happen again, who knows? Everything was perfect, NO wind, awesome rip, perfect water, and mainly, fish cooperation. To say we need a limit, I think not. As stated before, there are not enough anglers that target them enough to have a limit, in my opinion. When I fished the lake everday, I looked for them every single day after May, and some days I caught 2-4, and a whole lot of days I caught 0000000.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by biggun

Guys I found this article from 2009..

Researchers Jim Franks and Read Hendon in the University of Southern Mississippi Gulf Coast Research Lab's Center for Fisheries Research and Development have made new findings about tripletail as part of ongoing biological studies of this unique species.
They include:

-- The species occurs seasonally in northern Gulf waters.
-- They can be found in offshore, marine waters or in brackish, estuarine waters throughout the summer.
-- They appear to use estuarine waters as feeding grounds.

From a Franks study of fish in Mississippi waters of the Mississippi Sound, they discovered:
-- They spawn from June through August with a peak in July in Mississippi waters.
-- It is assumed they migrate offshore to spawn. No females collected within the Mississippi Sound during the study were in imminent spawning condition, which means they would spawn within the next 24 hours from the time observed.
-- 50 percent of all female tripletail collected were sexually mature at 17cm HALF inches total length.

-- 100 percent of females were sexually mature at 19cm TQTR inches total length.


-- It has been difficult to adequately age tripletail due to difficulties in "reading" annular rings on otoliths (ear bones) — the standard measure by which all fish with such bones are aged.



My question is what percentage of fish caught ARE females?

I have NO PROBLEM with a 5 fish limit..

But I would like to see say; (5 over 12") to start then go from there..

Or why not a slot limit???

All I could find on this lead was:

http://www.al.com/outdoors/mobilereg...130.xml&coll=3

Unfortunately, a news article is not a citable source for sound scientific information, and the uncertainty in the length units for sexual maturity is a key issue.

I've searched both authors CVs and lists of publications. Unfortunately, there are no scientific publications listed that contain the same information as the new web site. Scholarly search engines also come up empty. Read Hendon is listed as completing his PhD this year. Maybe it is in his thesis.

[AceArcher]

yeah that's a bit confusing...

is it 19 cm? or is it 17 inches...

but good find

[biggun]

It was an article using Dr. Franks findings???

Another GOOD question I'd like to know before I'd be in favor of a 18" size limit is the following:

What percentage of trips ARE FEMALE VS MALE???