What Would You Do?

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

I think duckman is trolling right? Let me rephrase that, I HOPE duckman is trolling


They are pledging allegiance to the USA, whats the problem? Y'all are overthinking this, no need to write letters or call congressmen or lose your job over it

No im not trolling. Im not going to be writing letters to anyone over the matter. Never was my plan. I simply told him he didnt have to do it if he didnt want to. I dont think him getting a F on one assignment in his sophmore spanish class will have any long term adverse effects.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

No im not trolling. Im not going to be writing letters to anyone over the matter. Never was my plan. I simply told him he didnt have to do it if he didnt want to. I dont think him getting a F on one assignment in his sophmore spanish class will have any long term adverse effects.

There are a ton of things he is going to have to do that he doesn't want to do in his life (mow the yard, get a job, take a math test, etc). My kid didn't want to go to school today, he wanted to watch the rest of Cat in the Hat this morning

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

There are a ton of things he is going to have to do that he doesn't want to do in his life (mow the yard, get a job, take a math test, etc). My kid didn't want to go to school today, he wanted to watch the rest of Cat in the Hat this morning

There is a big difference between doing things you dont like to do and doing things you feel are morally wrong.

[mcjaredsandwich]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

There is a big difference between doing things you dont like to do and doing things you feel are morally wrong.

I feel it is morally wrong to pay a government with money that I earn, but I have to. I feel it is morally wrong to obey laws that protect me from myself, but I obey them due to the penalties that could be brought forth. I feel it is morally wrong that people on this forum view different languages and races other than English/white as sub-par and they aren't welcome here in America.

The constitution protects freedom of speech regardless of language. If they wanna sing in their native tongue or pledge their allegiance to the US then let them at it. Regardless of language, the translation to English is the same. It all means the same regardless of language, accent, cultural background, skin color, etc. If you can't see past those, then you are contributing to the decline of America as the greatest nation in the world.

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich

I feel it is morally wrong to pay a government with money that I earn, but I have to. I feel it is morally wrong to obey laws that protect me from myself, but I obey them due to the penalties that could be brought forth. I feel it is morally wrong that people on this forum view different languages and races other than English/white as sub-par and they aren't welcome here in America.

The constitution protects freedom of speech regardless of language. If they wanna sing in their native tongue or pledge their allegiance to the US then let them at it. Regardless of language, the translation to English is the same. It all means the same regardless of language, accent, cultural background, skin color, etc. If you can't see past those, then you are contributing to the decline of America as the greatest nation in the world.

Thank you !


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[mriguy]

Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich

I feel it is morally wrong to pay a government with money that I earn, but I have to. I feel it is morally wrong to obey laws that protect me from myself, but I obey them due to the penalties that could be brought forth. I feel it is morally wrong that people on this forum view different languages and races other than English/white as sub-par and they aren't welcome here in America.

The constitution protects freedom of speech regardless of language. If they wanna sing in their native tongue or pledge their allegiance to the US then let them at it. Regardless of language, the translation to English is the same. It all means the same regardless of language, accent, cultural background, skin color, etc. If you can't see past those, then you are contributing to the decline of America as the greatest nation in the world.

Wise beyond your years Sammich

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich

I feel it is morally wrong to pay a government with money that I earn, but I have to. I feel it is morally wrong to obey laws that protect me from myself, but I obey them due to the penalties that could be brought forth. I feel it is morally wrong that people on this forum view different languages and races other than English/white as sub-par and they aren't welcome here in America.

The constitution protects freedom of speech regardless of language. If they wanna sing in their native tongue or pledge their allegiance to the US then let them at it. Regardless of language, the translation to English is the same. It all means the same regardless of language, accent, cultural background, skin color, etc. If you can't see past those, then you are contributing to the decline of America as the greatest nation in the world.

You came up with all of that from me saying my son shouldnt have to say the pledge in spanish? I never once said I had any issue with foreigners saying the pledge in another language. I just dont think my son should be forced to learn it in another. Will he have to pay the consiquences for his decision? Yes he will. He knows what the consiquences are and is willing to pay them. If you do things that you feel are moraly wrong but you do them because you fear the penalties that is a personal choice of yours. I dont see how that applies here.

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

You came up with all of that from me saying my son shouldnt have to say the pledge in spanish? I never once said I had any issue with foreigners saying the pledge in another language. I just dont think my son should be forced to learn it in another. Will he have to pay the consiquences for his decision? Yes he will. He knows what the consiquences are and is willing to pay them. If you do things that you feel are moraly wrong but you do them because you fear the penalties that is a personal choice of yours. I dont see how that applies here.

I think his post was molded by a bunch of other input throughout this thread, along with the sentiment found in the coke thread - I wouldn't take it as a direct attack on you.

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by Goooh

I think his post was molded by a bunch of other input throughout this thread, along with the sentiment found in the coke thread - I wouldn't take it as a direct attack on you.

It's not at you I'm sure.


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[mcjaredsandwich]

Originally Posted by Goooh

I think his post was molded by a bunch of other input throughout this thread, along with the sentiment found in the coke thread - I wouldn't take it as a direct attack on you.

yeah duckman, this isn't an attack at you at all. its a culmination of several threads and your post tipped me toward spilling what I thought about how this community represents itself.