Drost Resigned

[Capt.B]

If any go into this meeting July 9th mad and a closed minded....and speak that mind......it will be done in spite.......put ya hat in ya hand and see what results you can get..........

[Goooh]

Why all the caps? We aren't so dumb that we can't figure out the context without you capitalizing and emphasizing every word.

I can read your while post because it makes me dizzy... No offfense

[T-Bone]

I still say that dude Gunner looks like Ned Beatty

[AubreyLaHaye458]

Originally Posted by T-Bone

I still say that dude Gunner looks like Ned Beatty

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[SGib]

So lemme get this straight... will the gravel dancing be before or after the meeting? As far as tangling with crab?? Dude come on he is weak as pond water!

[mr crab]

Originally Posted by SGib

So lemme get this straight... will the gravel dancing be before or after the meeting? As far as tangling with crab?? Dude come on he is weak as pond water!

Gib.....my little legal situation over in Galveston has been completely dropped, so I'm ready for action once again......But lemme save a little lawyer $$$ first. lol

[biggun]

W.. I think the meeting With all concerned Is absolutely wonderful.. Awesome...

This could have come about much earlier in my humble opinion if Everyone put as much effort in to getting this meeting together than moaning and groaning about every organization in this state on this website.

It's a little funny that U all curse CCA, Corp., then ask for their help...

Here's is a Idea.. Let's stop blaming others. And ALL WORK TOGETHER.

BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.. Jeremy, I applaud U if U had anything to do with this July 9th meeting. Hopefully this will make a difference...

[Natural Light Kid]

Originally Posted by biggun

W.. I think the meeting With all concerned Is absolutely wonderful.. Awesome...

This could have come about much earlier in my humble opinion if Everyone put as much effort in to getting this meeting together than moaning and groaning about every organization in this state on this website.

It's a little funny that U all curse CCA, Corp., then ask for their help...

Here's is a Idea.. Let's stop blaming others. And ALL WORK TOGETHER.

BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.. Jeremy, I applaud U if U had anything to do with this July 9th meeting. Hopefully this will make a difference...

Ditto

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid

Ditto

To CCA "Let's all work together" means "Give us your money and we'll decide what ideas to support" and then they consistently push for lower limits with no data.

To LDWF "Let's all work together" means "Give us more money" and we'll pretend to listen to your concerns before lowering limits without showing you the data regarding the scientific need.

Yes, we need to work together for the conservation, benefit, and improvement of the fishery. But working together means sharing the best available scientific data, so we have a sound scientific basis for managing the resources.

When certain parties in the process always want more money, do not share available data, and want to exert their power by consistently criminalizing traditional and reasonable actions, it proves their idea of "working together" is for recreational anglers to "bend over."

[keakar]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

To CCA "Let's all work together" means "Give us your money and we'll decide what ideas to support" and then they consistently push for lower limits with no data.

To LDWF "Let's all work together" means "Give us more money" and we'll pretend to listen to your concerns before lowering limits without showing you the data regarding the scientific need.

Yes, we need to work together for the conservation, benefit, and improvement of the fishery. But working together means sharing the best available scientific data, so we have a sound scientific basis for managing the resources.

When certain parties in the process always want more money, do not share available data, and want to exert their power by consistently criminalizing traditional and reasonable actions, it proves their idea of "working together" is for recreational anglers to "bend over."

this about wraps up the whole situation and any changes that need to be made need to be made from within WLF and CCA and not that WE need to stop complaining and getting others to take interest and paying closer attention to what is really going on within those organizations and the actions they put forth.

shining a bright light on what they are doing AND NOT DOING is a good thing and the only reason they are running scared now and seeking public input they always turn a deaf ear to.

contrary to their wanting to ignore it, raising these issues in public forums is getting as lot of attention and the word is getting out and spreading that people need to stop blindly supporting CCA and WLF and just hoping they are doing good things but instead find out the truth behind what they really are concentrating their efforts on to hurt the very people they portend to support.

contrary to those saying complaining on forums does no good, the evidence of recent developments has shown that to be a false argument and raising hell on forums does indeed bring results so those (for whatever reasons) cant make it to the meeting to raise hell in person can still make a difference by spreading the word and getting more people to open their eyes and start paying attention to whats going on.

[Ratdog]

Originally Posted by keakar

this about wraps up the whole situation and any changes that need to be made need to be made from within WLF and CCA and not that WE need to stop complaining and getting others to take interest and paying closer attention to what is really going on within those organizations and the actions they put forth.

shining a bright light on what they are doing AND NOT DOING is a good thing and the only reason they are running scared now and seeking public input they always turn a deaf ear to.

contrary to their wanting to ignore it, raising these issues in public forums is getting as lot of attention and the word is getting out and spreading that people need to stop blindly supporting CCA and WLF and just hoping they are doing good things but instead find out the truth behind what they really are concentrating their efforts on to hurt the very people they portend to support.

contrary to those saying complaining on forums does no good, the evidence of recent developments has shown that to be a false argument and raising hell on forums does indeed bring results so those (for whatever reasons) cant make it to the meeting to raise hell in person can still make a difference by spreading the word and getting more people to open their eyes and start paying attention to whats going on.

This guy is a communist. We need every person we can get to take intrest.

Sounds like that commi flounder smaker.

["W"]

Originally Posted by biggun

W.. I think the meeting With all concerned Is absolutely wonderful.. Awesome...

This could have come about much earlier in my humble opinion if Everyone put as much effort in to getting this meeting together than moaning and groaning about every organization in this state on this website.

It's a little funny that U all curse CCA, Corp., then ask for their help...

Here's is a Idea.. Let's stop blaming others. And ALL WORK TOGETHER.

BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.. Jeremy, I applaud U if U had anything to do with this July 9th meeting. Hopefully this will make a difference...

1st off not person or persons can take credit for the meeting it was from many people like me and other on this site who have made noise and raised concerns !

2nd work together ??? If that was that easy we never would have a democrats and Republican Party would we?

As far as CCA goes I was on the board in lake Charles and besides one guide that I know of , no on that board ever spent more than 3 days on big lake a month .
If you want people to run a real commitee board have people who know what the hell is going on !!


Do you think we needed a 15 trout limit ?? Hell no ! But you want me to trust the same CCA that told me they would not support limit reduction with out the lastest and greatest data ( 2005 CCA supported a trout reduction with zero data )


CCA just supported a license increase fee for the WL&F and WL&F will not release any data

But now CCA wants data?? So you support WL&F to get increase in money ( knowing they Are holding info )
But now you want info from WL&F after they get the money


CCA should of had balls and said NO we the CCA will not support a fee increase until the WL&F released new data


But but but "sit tight " right

[SGib]

MG dropping the hammer today!

[mcjaredsandwich]

I see nothing has changed here.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich

I see nothing has changed here.

Right, we still believe that actions speak louder than words.

Or do you think that is a bad thing?

[T-TOP]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Right, we still believe that actions speak louder than words.



Or do you think that is a bad thing?

You coming to the meeting?


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[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by T-TOP

You coming to the meeting?


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Wish I could, but I just returned to BR and not planning to be back in LC until the SC Tourney. I have already sent one email to the Oyster biologist asking for the 2014 oyster stock assessment, and if they discuss any other stock assessment data at the meeting, I'll email them afterward asking for it.

I am hoping that some trustworthy parties can report back here on what happens at this meeting, or at least email me privately with the info.

I think the most important thing we need to communicate is that sportsman will not tolerate restrictive management strategies unless the supporting data is shared.

Closing the pogey plant has made the weir thing something of a red herring this year. Redfish and trout are growing fat on all the extra pogeys and their offspring that are in the system now that there are 100-200 kilotons of extra menhaden in the near shore waters moving into and out of the system for the fish to get fat on. Shutting down the pogey operation has probably also left lots of other species that were formerly removed from the area as bycatch of the pogey operations.

[CharlieFoxtrot]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Wish I could, but I just returned to BR and not planning to be back in LC until the SC Tourney. I have already sent one email to the Oyster biologist asking for the 2014 oyster stock assessment, and if they discuss any other stock assessment data at the meeting, I'll email them afterward asking for it.

I am hoping that some trustworthy parties can report back here on what happens at this meeting, or at least email me privately with the info.

I think the most important thing we need to communicate is that sportsman will not tolerate restrictive management strategies unless the supporting data is shared.

Closing the pogey plant has made the weir thing something of a red herring this year. Redfish and trout are growing fat on all the extra pogeys and their offspring that are in the system now that there are 100-200 kilotons of extra menhaden in the near shore waters moving into and out of the system for the fish to get fat on. Shutting down the pogey operation has probably also left lots of other species that were formerly removed from the area as bycatch of the pogey operations.

Where are the large rafts of mullet commonly seen in the 90s?

[mcjaredsandwich]

I mean the arguing, people siding with/against W, CCA is the devil, people getting called pilgrim..

Haven't logged on in a while. Just an observation. I don't live in Louisiana anymore.

But yes, actions speak louder than words.

[Ratdog]

I'm a tall gate the meeting ! I'm a cook da winers and buns. Gunna be so good bratwurst . I might even broad cast live for the desk jockeys .

But most off all I for one want to be heard on the subject of science of bad water.

I know what bad water can do. Look at all the regs on lead now .how u think that happend. Too many kids getting poisend. It affects fish too. And led is not the only issue big lake has. Any thing to help fix the water will allow the development of the fish.