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View Poll Results: Which areas of improvement do you think will most likely result from the meeting?
New fishing regulations will be based in sound science and on published data. 2 3.33%
State regulators will move to better protect essential oyster reef habitat. 9 15.00%
Weir management will improve to open the gates whenever salinity conditions allow. 2 3.33%
Positive steps will be taken by USACE to better prevent and mitigate erosion. 4 6.67%
CCA will stop supporting foolish fishing regulations and focus on essential habitat issues. 2 3.33%
I am not optimistic about any positive outcomes. 49 81.67%
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Old 07-10-2014, 07:03 AM
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Well, first things first, the statement about the weirs being managed based on salinities is false. It is based on much more than just salinities. What I got from that was basically that no one on here is ever going to he able to say exactly when the weirs ought to be open. The plan is just vague enough to allow some discrepancy based on various situations.
At least we've gotten this out into the open. I wonder if there is a way to obtain records regarding which days each weir has been opened or closed over the past several years. This might be one place where a FOIA request may be useful.

With the opening data we could compare the openings with the historical salinity and water level records and discern if the pattern of openings is arguably close to the management plan. Accountability may be possible if the pattern of openings is nowhere near what the management plan specifies.
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Old 07-10-2014, 07:13 AM
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At least we've gotten this out into the open. I wonder if there is a way to obtain records regarding which days each weir has been opened or closed over the past several years. This might be one place where a FOIA request may be useful.

With the opening data we could compare the openings with the historical salinity and water level records and discern if the pattern of openings is arguably close to the management plan. Accountability may be possible if the pattern of openings is nowhere near what the management plan specifies.
That would really only be applicable back to January of 2012 when they resumed at least trying to follow the management plan. From Sept. 25 2005 to 2012 they basically stayed open, and we lost a hell of a lot of marsh in that time.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:02 AM
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With the opening data we could compare the openings with the historical salinity and water level records and discern if the pattern of openings is arguably close to the management plan. Accountability may be possible if the pattern of openings is nowhere near what the management plan specifies.
If you could obtain the data... all of the factors that determine the open/close were included in the powerpoint. (Salinity, Tides, Lunar cycles, wind, etc.)

It would probably take a MathGeek to compile all of this data and see how it actually correlates to their management plan.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:10 AM
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At least we've gotten this out into the open. I wonder if there is a way to obtain records regarding which days each weir has been opened or closed over the past several years. This might be one place where a FOIA request may be useful.

With the opening data we could compare the openings with the historical salinity and water level records and discern if the pattern of openings is arguably close to the management plan. Accountability may be possible if the pattern of openings is nowhere near what the management plan specifies.
they had a slide with that data there last night.
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