Elephant in room

[Clampy]

I was merely pointing out what ever opinion we form is going to be based in lies.
Non of us live there and can't see it happen. Yeah sure you can see it in clips of the worst or best moments.
My opinion is flawed just like everyone's.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Clampy

I was merely pointing out what ever opinion we form is going to be based in lies.
Non of us live there and can't see it happen. Yeah sure you can see it in clips of the worst or best moments.
My opinion is flawed just like everyone's.

I agree. We only get to see or read what they want us to. Based on what I know I know that I would have used my weapon if it was me. I don't know everything though.

[Clampy]

Here you go.
Saw this on social media.
Changed my mind.

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[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Clampy

Here you go.
Saw this on social media.
Changed my mind.

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I feel bad for the people that are having businesses destroyed. I also don't understand why the owners aren't protecting their business. That happens around my neck of the woods and there would be 4x4s parked bumber to bumber and everyone would be locked and loaded. You want to protest go ahead and do it. You F up someones property and you will look like you went through a meat grinder when the shooting stops.

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

I feel bad for the people that are having businesses destroyed. I also don't understand why the owners aren't protecting their business. That happens around my neck of the woods and there would be 4x4s parked bumber to bumber and everyone would be locked and loaded. You want to protest go ahead and do it. You F up someones property and you will look like you went through a meat grinder when the shooting stops.

I can get on board with that.

[duckman1911]

Just a quick thought.
I think paying LE more and not allowing anyone under 30 to be a cop may help. Pay more because a person at 30 has more bills (as a general rule). At 30+ you have lived some and have also had a job hopefully. You know good people have bad days. By 30 you have already wanted to pull your boss' head off. Prolly more than once. You also know more about how to talk to people and help deescalate a situation. I know I made worse desicions in my 20s than I do in my 30s. They put out a 21 year from the academy and he has a badge and a gun. He doesn't even know what life is yet. He's just a kid that thinks he looks all pumped because of his bullet proof vest.
In my experience with LE the best ones have always been with the 30+ year old guys. They know lifes a beech and some days just arent good.

[Dogface]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Just a quick thought.
I think paying LE more and not allowing anyone under 30 to be a cop may help. Pay more because a person at 30 has more bills (as a general rule). At 30+ you have lived some and have also had a job hopefully. You know good people have bad days. By 30 you have already wanted to pull your boss' head off. Prolly more than once. You also know more about how to talk to people and help deescalate a situation. I know I made worse desicions in my 20s than I do in my 30s. They put out a 21 year from the academy and he has a badge and a gun. He doesn't even know what life is yet. He's just a kid that thinks he looks all pumped because of his bullet proof vest.
In my experience with LE the best ones have always been with the 30+ year old guys. They know lifes a beech and some days just arent good.

Makes good sense.

[eman]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Just a quick thought.
I think paying LE more and not allowing anyone under 30 to be a cop may help. Pay more because a person at 30 has more bills (as a general rule). At 30+ you have lived some and have also had a job hopefully. You know good people have bad days. By 30 you have already wanted to pull your boss' head off. Prolly more than once. You also know more about how to talk to people and help deescalate a situation. I know I made worse desicions in my 20s than I do in my 30s. They put out a 21 year from the academy and he has a badge and a gun. He doesn't even know what life is yet. He's just a kid that thinks he looks all pumped because of his bullet proof vest.
In my experience with LE the best ones have always been with the 30+ year old guys. They know lifes a beech and some days just arent good.

+1

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Just a quick thought.
I think paying LE more and not allowing anyone under 30 to be a cop may help. Pay more because a person at 30 has more bills (as a general rule). At 30+ you have lived some and have also had a job hopefully. You know good people have bad days. By 30 you have already wanted to pull your boss' head off. Prolly more than once. You also know more about how to talk to people and help deescalate a situation. I know I made worse desicions in my 20s than I do in my 30s. They put out a 21 year from the academy and he has a badge and a gun. He doesn't even know what life is yet. He's just a kid that thinks he looks all pumped because of his bullet proof vest.
In my experience with LE the best ones have always been with the 30+ year old guys. They know lifes a beech and some days just arent good.

I like it.

[bmac]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Just a quick thought.
I think paying LE more and not allowing anyone under 30 to be a cop may help. Pay more because a person at 30 has more bills (as a general rule). At 30+ you have lived some and have also had a job hopefully. You know good people have bad days. By 30 you have already wanted to pull your boss' head off. Prolly more than once. You also know more about how to talk to people and help deescalate a situation. I know I made worse desicions in my 20s than I do in my 30s. They put out a 21 year from the academy and he has a badge and a gun. He doesn't even know what life is yet. He's just a kid that thinks he looks all pumped because of his bullet proof vest.
In my experience with LE the best ones have always been with the 30+ year old guys. They know lifes a beech and some days just arent good.

This would be ideal but the fact is that our tax dollars pay police salaries. In many small towns the cops barely make more than minimum wage. Low wages mean your talent pool will be pretty shallow.

I know there are some areas where the police are paid well, but I would bet the taxes are also higher there.

It would be interesting to see a study comparing police salary with police complaints.

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by bmac

This would be ideal but the fact is that our tax dollars pay police salaries. In many small towns the cops barely make more than minimum wage. Low wages mean your talent pool will be pretty shallow.

I know there are some areas where the police are paid well, but I would bet the taxes are also higher there.

It would be interesting to see a study comparing police salary with police complaints.

I would love to see that study also.
Why why why. Do we pay cops and teachers so little ?

[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by Clampy

I would love to see that study also.
Why why why. Do we pay cops and teachers so little ?

Cuz out elected officials gotta get paid yo

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Clampy

I would love to see that study also.
Why why why. Do we pay cops and teachers so little ?

X2

[alphaman]

The justice system isnt fair at all imo
Justice is not blind at all.... justice can see clear as day!

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by alphaman

The justice system isnt fair at all imo
Justice is not blind at all.... justice can see clear as day!

Yoy are LE correct? If so I would like to hear more of your opinion and FFF. We may not agree completely but it could be a great tool for all of us to get a look at the other side and leave with a new understanding of both sides.

[alphaman]

I really dont get into all of this stuff. I think that officer, whether he was write or wrong he will get off with no problem.

[Dogface]

Originally Posted by alphaman

I really dont get into all of this stuff. I think that officer, whether he was write or wrong he will get off with no problem.

If he was wrong I hope he doesn't get off!!!

[alphaman]

Originally Posted by Dogface

If he was wrong I hope he doesn't get off!!!

True but they will figure out away to clear him.

[Clampy]

Well this doesn't look good.

https://news.vice.com/article/a-ku-k...rce=vicenewsfb

[capt coonassty]

Originally Posted by Clampy

Well this doesn't look good.

https://news.vice.com/article/a-ku-k...rce=vicenewsfb

Man that sucks. I'm sure this guys gotta move out of town and needs money. But if he would take a single dollar from the KKK all of the people looting and raising hell would just take that as them doing this for a noble cause because then for sure they would see this as a race thing.