This scared me a good bit

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Smalls

I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to defend yourself. The point I'm making is be smart, don't put yourself in a bad situation. The bears are protected by law, and I don't recall an exception for self defense.

The ESA has an exception for self-defense, but overzealous prosecutors are often eager to make examples out of people who shoot bears. In the case below, prosecutors moved forward with charges because the shooter could not sufficiently prove how close the grizzlies were to the six children in his yard.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...fense-shooting

Here's another case that was eventually dismissed as self-defense, but not before an overzealous prosecution cost six figures and many years:

http://www.legalreform-now.org/menu4_1.htm

[Duck Butter]

Things that have a legitimate shot at harming you and you should worry about while hunting:

vehicle trip to the camp
ATV ride to the stand
falling out of stand
t-boys 30-30 brush shot
tree falling on you
yellowjackets/wasps

mosquito borne diseases

walking up on a meth lab

hippies

alien abductions




snakes
bears

[ike84]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

Things that have a legitimate shot at harming you and you should worry about while hunting:

vehicle trip to the camp
ATV ride to the stand
falling out of stand
t-boys 30-30 brush shot
tree falling on you
yellowjackets/wasps

mosquito borne diseases

walking up on a meth lab

hippies

alien abductions




snakes
bears

times 2. I assume that list is in order of likeliness to happen. I would just put venomous snakes above alien abductions early on in the season.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

The ESA has an exception for self-defense, but overzealous prosecutors are often eager to make examples out of people who shoot bears. In the case below, prosecutors moved forward with charges because the shooter could not sufficiently prove how close the grizzlies were to the six children in his yard.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...fense-shooting

Here's another case that was eventually dismissed as self-defense, but not before an overzealous prosecution cost six figures and many years:

http://www.legalreform-now.org/menu4_1.htm

Let's try and keep this to Louisiana black bears, no sense going to the grizzlies which are more aggressive. Try to keep it in state. You will not find an attack in Louisiana, just a bunch of corn feeders overturned.




:awaitsalongrantaboutoverzealousgovernmentblahblah blah

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

Let's try and keep this to Louisiana black bears, no sense going to the grizzlies which are more aggressive. Try to keep it in state. You will not find an attack in Louisiana, just a bunch of corn feeders overturned.

LDWF sees the possibility of black bear attacks as sufficiently reasonable that they have seen fit to publish guidance:

Even those hunters that follow all of the proper precautions can
occasionally encounter a bear while hunting. Although bears are
generally shy and for the most part try to avoid humans, hunting
places humans in close proximity to bears. When a surprise encounter
occurs, the best course of action is to detour around where the bear is
feeding or resting. Go back the way you came and access your
intended destination from another direction. If you unintentionally
encounter a bear at close range, raise your hands above your head to
appear larger than you are. Speak in a normal voice to allow the bear
to identify you as human. Back away until it is safe to turn and WALK
(DO NOT RUN) away. Bears have poor vision, but have a keen sense
of smell. They will sometimes stand on their hind legs when faced
with something they can't identify. They are trying to catch your scent
to determine what they are encountering. If an attack occurs, DO NOT
PLAY DEAD. That is a technique used for grizzly bears. Fight back
with anything available. Black bear attacks have often times been
stopped when the person fought back violently.

"Fight back with anything available" certainly includes use of arms, if one has has the foresight to be prepared.

Are you saying that the odds of a black bear attack are so remote that LDWF was wasting taxpayer money by publishing guidance?

Why would they educate hunters not to run, if there was not a real chance of running triggering an attack? Why tell hunters not to play dead if there was not a real chance of playing dead triggering an attack?

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

LDWF sees the possibility of black bear attacks as sufficiently reasonable that they have seen fit to publish guidance:

Are you saying that the odds of a black bear attack are so remote that LDWF was wasting taxpayer money by publishing guidance?

Why would they educate hunters not to run, if there was not a real chance of running triggering an attack? Why tell hunters not to play dead if there was not a real chance of playing dead triggering an attack?

these are just disclaimers

You have to put disclaimers on coffee nowadays saying that it is hot

you also have to put disclaimers on every toy saying its a choking hazard

its just the times we live in. Most of this is common sense. If you see a bear, leave it alone. If you see an alligator, do not jump on it and try to ride it like Steve Irwin, same thing. If a bear is trying to eat your face off, shoot it.

[Dblbeard]

Instead of spending the money to bring back the bears which were in the spillway and felicianas already, why don't we bring back the elk. Rosevelt killed a elk in lousiana and the elk are not a problem!

Ok, for all of you that hope lousiana will open a bear season, let's share the best way to cook them!!

Go to the store and by a case of beer.
Cook the bear and feed the whole block bear while you drink the beer . I've had bear and it's nasty !!!!!

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by Dblbeard

Instead of spending the money to bring back the bears which were in the spillway and felicianas already, why don't we bring back the elk. Rosevelt killed a elk in lousiana and the elk are not a problem!

Ok, for all of you that hope lousiana will open a bear season, let's share the best way to cook them!!

Go to the store and by a case of beer.
Cook the bear and feed the whole block bear while you drink the beer . I've had bear and it's nasty !!!!!

That would be awesome. Then I wouldn't have to take that expensive *** dream trip to Colorado or New Mexico.