I NEED a boat!

[ruger35]

Why did Cajun say they can't finance anything? I used to do Indirect Lending for a local credit union and we did quite a bit of business with Cajun.

[kcinnick]

Originally Posted by ruger35

Why did Cajun say they can't finance anything? I used to do Indirect Lending for a local credit union and we did quite a bit of business with Cajun.

They can't use CUAC. If they run me through CUAC I will get an offer with no DOC's needed. Just makes life easier for me since I own my own business. The Credit union they use wants 3 years tax returns, I don't even have 2 full years in business yet. I was told by finance that I would need to find my own financing.

I am not running around with an 800+ score, but my credit was good enough to qualify for Fords 0% financing.

I have looked at a lot of boats this week... and my favorite so far are the 22' and 24' NauticStars... BullsBay is nice, but lacking jump seats might be a wife unit deal breaker, Frontier 2104 is nice but I am thinking going 24'. A 2400 sport special might be the ticket. Has anyone ever bought a boat out of state? How does the tax work? Oh, haven't ruled out the Epic's either, I think I would go with a base type 25sc if I got an Epic.

[wetfeathers00]

LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY.


I bought the first EPIC boat Cajun Outboards sold.


Cajun is a great company and Mike Oncal is a very good manager, but EPIC BOATS is a joke.


The company DOES NOT and I MEAN does not stand behind their product like they say they do.


WITH ONLY 7 Hrs on my boat, and having had trouble from the second trip in my boat to the last trip, it was discovered that someone from EPIC was using my gas tank as a trash can.


When Cajun put a scope down my tank they discovered the following:


Cigarette butts
leaves
sticks
fiberglass
paper towels
needle nose pliers
Mcdonalds hamburger wrapper


Once we notified EPIC, we were told they would have to rip the boat apart to replace the tank. I said I don't think so, that boat only has 7 hours on it and Im not going to own a repaired boat from Manufacturing problems with only 7 hours. I told them splitting the boat open goes against the whole engineering sales pitch that their boat is Resin Infused and the that once the top and bottom are married together they become One Piece Hull.


They repaired it Anyway and guess what??? First test drive with repaired hull, the gunwales split down both sides the entire length of the boat.


Well EPIC flat out refused to replace the boat even with CAJUN OUTBOARDS fighting them with me. This went on for over 7 months.


Finally, I had to get an Attorney to handle business and EPIC agreed to buy the BOAT back.


I also discovered in March of this year, they were in MIAMI looking for money or investors because they are in a bind.


EPIC is a pretty boat, it was a nice boat, but the COMPANY WILL NOT STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCTS

[alphaman]

Originally Posted by wetfeathers00

LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY.


I bought the first EPIC boat Cajun Outboards sold.


Cajun is a great company and Mike Oncal is a very good manager, but EPIC BOATS is a joke.


The company DOES NOT and I MEAN does not stand behind their product like they say they do.


WITH ONLY 7 Hrs on my boat, and having had trouble from the second trip in my boat to the last trip, it was discovered that someone from EPIC was using my gas tank as a trash can.


When Cajun put a scope down my tank they discovered the following:


Cigarette butts
leaves
sticks
fiberglass
paper towels
needle nose pliers
Mcdonalds hamburger wrapper


Once we notified EPIC, we were told they would have to rip the boat apart to replace the tank. I said I don't think so, that boat only has 7 hours on it and Im not going to own a repaired boat from Manufacturing problems with only 7 hours. I told them splitting the boat open goes against the whole engineering sales pitch that their boat is Resin Infused and the that once the top and bottom are married together they become One Piece Hull.


They repaired it Anyway and guess what??? First test drive with repaired hull, the gunwales split down both sides the entire length of the boat.


Well EPIC flat out refused to replace the boat even with CAJUN OUTBOARDS fighting them with me. This went on for over 7 months.


Finally, I had to get an Attorney to handle business and EPIC agreed to buy the BOAT back.


I also discovered in March of this year, they were in MIAMI looking for money or investors because they are in a bind.


EPIC is a pretty boat, it was a nice boat, but the COMPANY WILL NOT STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCTS

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[B-Stealth]

Originally Posted by wetfeathers00

LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY.


I bought the first EPIC boat Cajun Outboards sold.


Cajun is a great company and Mike Oncal is a very good manager, but EPIC BOATS is a joke.


The company DOES NOT and I MEAN does not stand behind their product like they say they do.


WITH ONLY 7 Hrs on my boat, and having had trouble from the second trip in my boat to the last trip, it was discovered that someone from EPIC was using my gas tank as a trash can.


When Cajun put a scope down my tank they discovered the following:


Cigarette butts
leaves
sticks
fiberglass
paper towels
needle nose pliers
Mcdonalds hamburger wrapper


Once we notified EPIC, we were told they would have to rip the boat apart to replace the tank. I said I don't think so, that boat only has 7 hours on it and Im not going to own a repaired boat from Manufacturing problems with only 7 hours. I told them splitting the boat open goes against the whole engineering sales pitch that their boat is Resin Infused and the that once the top and bottom are married together they become One Piece Hull.


They repaired it Anyway and guess what??? First test drive with repaired hull, the gunwales split down both sides the entire length of the boat.


Well EPIC flat out refused to replace the boat even with CAJUN OUTBOARDS fighting them with me. This went on for over 7 months.


Finally, I had to get an Attorney to handle business and EPIC agreed to buy the BOAT back.


I also discovered in March of this year, they were in MIAMI looking for money or investors because they are in a bind.


EPIC is a pretty boat, it was a nice boat, but the COMPANY WILL NOT STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCTS

How do you know the items found in your fuel tank were placed there by a Epic employee? Possibly a disgruntled neighbor, estranged lover, or just a random jackass?

[wetfeathers00]

Originally Posted by B-Stealth

How do you know the items found in your fuel tank were placed there by a Epic employee? Possibly a disgruntled neighbor, estranged lover, or just a random jackass?

Well B-Stealth,


First I would never make that claim unless it was guaranteed. But I will give you an pretty good proven scenario.




The gas tank is sealed in the boat, no access unless through the Gas cap and hose. Which the hose makes several S CURVES from the cap to the tank. WHICH would make it almost impossible to maneuver through the hose into the tank which actually makes a bend upward then downward.


This being said, the following items were found in the boat tank


FIBERGLASS ---- OOHH now how would fiberglass (something the boat is made of ) make it into the tank.


Cigarettes. --- OOOHH now how would cigarettes make in the tank (especially if it had gas))


Needle Nose Pliers ---- Sorry gonna just say, aint no way in sam hell pliers made it through the gas cap


Sticks & Leaves ---- Same answer as above


MCDONALDS Wrapper ---- UMMM bet its safe to say the guys SMOKING on lunch break threw both their lunch trash and cigarette butts in the tank


Pair of Rubber Gloves --- Yeh pretty much synonymous using fiberglass and resin.




AND NOW THE PUNCH LINE>


The tank has a serial number, EPIC admitted that the serial number on the tank was from the VIP BAY STEALTH inventory which they did not use in their new boats. EPIC claimed someone grabbed the wrong tank and placed in the boat.


EPIC uses a different polymer type tank and manufacturer for their tanks and a different serial numbering system for the EPCI boats.




BUT that's all just a guess.


WHAT DO YOU THINK ??? LOL

[B-Stealth]

Originally Posted by wetfeathers00

Well B-Stealth,


First I would never make that claim unless it was guaranteed. But I will give you an pretty good proven scenario.




The gas tank is sealed in the boat, no access unless through the Gas cap and hose. Which the hose makes several S CURVES from the cap to the tank. WHICH would make it almost impossible to maneuver through the hose into the tank which actually makes a bend upward then downward.


This being said, the following items were found in the boat tank


FIBERGLASS ---- OOHH now how would fiberglass (something the boat is made of ) make it into the tank.


Cigarettes. --- OOOHH now how would cigarettes make in the tank (especially if it had gas))


Needle Nose Pliers ---- Sorry gonna just say, aint no way in sam hell pliers made it through the gas cap


Sticks & Leaves ---- Same answer as above


MCDONALDS Wrapper ---- UMMM bet its safe to say the guys SMOKING on lunch break threw both their lunch trash and cigarette butts in the tank


Pair of Rubber Gloves --- Yeh pretty much synonymous using fiberglass and resin.




AND NOW THE PUNCH LINE>


The tank has a serial number, EPIC admitted that the serial number on the tank was from the VIP BAY STEALTH inventory which they did not use in their new boats. EPIC claimed someone grabbed the wrong tank and placed in the boat.


EPIC uses a different polymer type tank and manufacturer for their tanks and a different serial numbering system for the EPCI boats.




BUT that's all just a guess.


WHAT DO YOU THINK ??? LOL

Hey man I believe you, just playing a little Devils Advocate. It doesn't make the situation any better but it makes sense that it was an older tank. Defiantly some major QC shortcomings. How can I say this politely, the talent pool in NW Louisiana is extremely shallow.

[kcinnick]

Well, I think I have it narrowed down to 2 boats...

NauticStar 244 XPS with a 250
Seapro 248 with a 250

They are essentially they same price and from what I can tell very similar in features.

I am not buying just yet, anyone suggest anything else to look at.

[jpeff31787]

Originally Posted by kcinnick

Well, I think I have it narrowed down to 2 boats...

NauticStar 244 XPS with a 250
Seapro 248 with a 250

They are essentially they same price and from what I can tell very similar in features.

I am not buying just yet, anyone suggest anything else to look at.

our friend has a 224 XTS and we loved it so much we ordered ourself one. He's seeing about 55 mph with 4 guys, full, tank, and 100 trout in the fish box. That's with a 225SHO. We ordered ours with a 250SHO. Also if you order them you can deck it out however you want. You can buy all your own electronics and stuff, and install it yourself or have dealer install.

[bjhooper82]

Originally Posted by kcinnick

Well, I think I have it narrowed down to 2 boats...

NauticStar 244 XPS with a 250
Seapro 248 with a 250

They are essentially they same price and from what I can tell very similar in features.

I am not buying just yet, anyone suggest anything else to look at.

I would add blackjack to that list. Did you see the one that baseballfisherman just posted up? One fine rig!! For me personally, if I was buying a new boat, it would be between a blackjack or a haynie.

[kcinnick]

Originally Posted by bjhooper82

I would add blackjack to that list. Did you see the one that baseballfisherman just posted up? One fine rig!! For me personally, if I was buying a new boat, it would be between a blackjack or a haynie.

If I double the budget...

[bjhooper82]

Originally Posted by kcinnick

If I double the budget...

Yeah, I hear you. I guess I should have said if I was buying a new boat and money didn't matter, it would be a blackjack or haynie. Good luck in your search.

[meaux fishing]

Blazer bay or a used triton or blackjack

[AubreyLaHaye458]

Originally Posted by meaux fishing

Blazer bay or a used triton or blackjack

This.


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[kcinnick]

I am not a fan of the Blazer Bay boats, I am keeping an eye out for used, but there is something about having a new boat, new warranty and picking out the electronics I want. I am going with a Humminbird Ilink unit with the Ipilot trolling motor.

[meaux fishing]

Originally Posted by kcinnick

I am not a fan of the Blazer Bay boats, I am keeping an eye out for used, but there is something about having a new boat, new warranty and picking out the electronics I want. I am going with a Humminbird Ilink unit with the Ipilot trolling motor.

I bought a lightly used 4 year old triton LTS 24 with a suzuki 250 for $33K with under 200 hours on it. With a little time searching you can find a deal and put what ever you want on it and still be way under the sticker price for a new lesser quality boat. All warranties are transferable btw. Let somebody else take that new boat price hit, just my .02

[kcinnick]

Originally Posted by meaux fishing

I bought a lightly used 4 year old triton LTS 24 with a suzuki 250 for $33K with under 200 hours on it. With a little time searching you can find a deal and put what ever you want on it and still be way under the sticker price for a new lesser quality boat. All warranties are transferable btw. Let somebody else take that new boat price hit, just my .02

Don't worry, I am keeping an eye out on the used market. Fishing boats for sale don't last very long around here.

[kcinnick]

I am adding the BullsBay 2200 back on the list. It seems roomier than the 22ft NauticStar. It is simple but solid. Also, I can get it with a 200 cheaper than the NauticStar or Seapro.

[alphaman]

Originally Posted by kcinnick

I am adding the BullsBay 2200 back on the list. It seems roomier than the 22ft NauticStar. It is simple but solid. Also, I can get it with a 200 cheaper than the NauticStar or Seapro.

get you a 2104 Frontier with 200 Suzuki= BEAST MODE. 55 PLUS MPH. I'm getting 53 WOT with suzuki 175.

and sippin gas while crusing 35-40

[mrex]

I would atleast go check out the new Skeeters.