McNeese Ducks Unlimited

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by B-Stealth

Louisiana, looks like we smoke down about 1,000,000 more birds than the Canadians.
2012-2013 Season
Louisiana about 2.3million
Canada about 1 million

But I don't have much faith in the Canada vs La numbers or any harvest data for that matter.

If I read the harvest data correctly:
1-Louisiana
2-California
3-Arkansas
4-Texas

Source:
https://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/p...and2013-14.pdf

I call bull**** on this whole thing. How do they get these numbers? I've never once been asked how many of each species I kill yearly. How many birds winter in Louisiana total each year? No way in hell we kill 2.3 mill birds, if I'm reading that correctly. I'm goong to go out on a limb and say Canada kills more birds than us by a long shot.

[MarshRat89]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

I call bull**** on this whole thing. How do they get these numbers? I've never once been asked how many of each species I kill yearly. How many birds winter in Louisiana total each year? No way in hell we kill 2.3 mill birds, if I'm reading that correctly. I'm goong to go out on a limb and say Canada kills more birds than us by a long shot.

Yea, I call bs too! They had to of made those numbers up in an attempt to get us to send more money to DU. Well played boys.... Well played.


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[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by MarshRat89

Yea, I call bs too! They had to of made those numbers up in an attempt to get us to send more money to DU. Well played boys.... Well played.


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There are lots of years when there aren'tmany more than 2.3 million total ducks in LA, and they're going to sit here and say we killed 2.3 million birds in one year? Come on man. Tell me where they come up with these numbers.

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by MarshRat89

Yea, I call bs too! They had to of made those numbers up in an attempt to get us to send more money to DU. Well played boys.... Well played.


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I know aerial surveys are a little off, but still waiting to hear how we kill more birds than we have in the state.

[capt coonassty]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

I know aerial surveys are a little off, but still waiting to hear how we kill more birds than we have in the state.

I believe the surveys only account for birds in the state at a given time. All the ducks don't migrate to the state at the same time, so its possible for our state to see 10 Million (made up number) ducks over the entire winter. But the aerial survey only shows what birds are here at that time.

I think this thread had simmered out. New topic

[B-Stealth]

Originally Posted by capt coonassty

I believe the surveys only account for birds in the state at a given time. All the ducks don't migrate to the state at the same time, so its possible for our state to see 10 Million (made up number) ducks over the entire winter. But the aerial survey only shows what birds are here at that time.

I think this thread had simmered out. New topic

Lol I'm surprised it's still alive; well maybe on life support.

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by capt coonassty

I believe the surveys only account for birds in the state at a given time. All the ducks don't migrate to the state at the same time, so its possible for our state to see 10 Million (made up number) ducks over the entire winter. But the aerial survey only shows what birds are here at that time.

I think this thread had simmered out. New topic

I'm very aware. If there were 10 mil, we still don't kill 20%

[Top Dawg]

I wanna know what the du kool-aid drinkers are considering the breeding grounds.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

I know aerial surveys are a little off, but still waiting to hear how we kill more birds than we have in the state.

You do realize the winter surveys and the harvest estimates are independent of one another, right?

[B-Stealth]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

I call bull**** on this whole thing. How do they get these numbers? I've never once been asked how many of each species I kill yearly. How many birds winter in Louisiana total each year? No way in hell we kill 2.3 mill birds, if I'm reading that correctly. I'm goong to go out on a limb and say Canada kills more birds than us by a long shot.

I did say I don't have much faith in the harvest numbers but when I searched for harvest data, that's all I found.


Basically the only numbers I have any confidence in are the arial surveys conducted annually by Larry Reynolds. It would be interesting to see louisiana hunting lodge harvest data going back 10+ years but there's many variables that come into effect with those number; 4 major hurricanes being one of many.

Trying to compare out harvest to Canada is a waste of time.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by B-Stealth

I did say I don't have much faith in the harvest numbers but when I searched for harvest data, that's all I found.


Basically the only numbers I have any confidence in are the arial surveys conducted annually by Larry Reynolds. It would be interesting to see louisiana hunting lodge harvest data going back 10+ years but there's many variables that come into effect with those number; 4 major hurricanes being one of many.

Trying to compare out harvest to Canada is a waste of time.

Trying to compare state-to-state harvest is a waste of time. Harvest only tells half the story and is linked to several other factors. What was the weather like that year? Was it a "normal" year temperature wise? Was it wet or dry? What food sources were available? How much money was made at DU banquets in that state?

lmao! Just kidding with the last one.

Seriously, I'm just happy to be able to hunt. That's a big reason why I support DU, because just like the National Wild Turkey Federation, Ducks Unlimited is going to fight for hunters, because without hunters, the organization is not going to exist. And with all the anti-hunting liberals running rampant these days, we need all the voices and power we can get.

The day they succeed in banning hunting is the day conservation organizations and conservation die.