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Old 03-23-2016, 11:18 AM
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How do you propose we do that legally in the United States? How do we stop only Muslims from coming into the country? How do we only question Muslims about their travels? Give me what legal basis you have to effectively execute such a policy.

You do know they did this back in WWII to Germans and Japanese , How ironically we haven't won a single conflict once WE became politically correct, Everyone that has kicked our azz is NOT. Korean war, azz kicked, Vietnam, azz kicked, Gulf war era, well we are sorta still Fooking the football on this, 1000s on our boys killed, and the area is worse off, Id say azz kicked. We are not winning crap due to PC. don't want to hurt anyone feelings. this she itz in the middle east will never end, just like Vietnam.

Maybe once people are blown to parts and pieces on American soil, you brothers and sisters, people you know are dead, maybe the mindset will change, As of right now to many people think "oh that's bad, but its over there, no worries here"

How do we stop only Muslims from coming into the country? Unless you are a citizen you have no rights here, just as I don't have a RIGHT to go to Australia or Germany or the UAE, I am a guest in their country and they can refuse me entrance at any time they please. Why cant we refuse entrance to anyone we please ESPECIALLY ones we think are a risk to the safety to our country.
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Old 03-23-2016, 11:41 AM
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You do know they did this back in WWII to Germans and Japanese , How ironically we haven't won a single conflict once WE became politically correct, Everyone that has kicked our azz is NOT. Korean war, azz kicked, Vietnam, azz kicked, Gulf war era, well we are sorta still Fooking the football on this, 1000s on our boys killed, and the area is worse off, Id say azz kicked. We are not winning crap due to PC. don't want to hurt anyone feelings. this she itz in the middle east will never end, just like Vietnam.

Maybe once people are blown to parts and pieces on American soil, you brothers and sisters, people you know are dead, maybe the mindset will change, As of right now to many people think "oh that's bad, but its over there, no worries here"

How do we stop only Muslims from coming into the country? Unless you are a citizen you have no rights here, just as I don't have a RIGHT to go to Australia or Germany or the UAE, I am a guest in their country and they can refuse me entrance at any time they please. Why cant we refuse entrance to anyone we please ESPECIALLY ones we think are a risk to the safety to our country.
You do realize we apologized to those people, paid reparations to them and changed our policies since then, right?

Even if you were able to change the policies regarding foreign Muslims, singling out and questioning Muslim American citizens about their travels is a much stickier proposition. The likelihood of successfully pulling that off in today's America is slim to none.

What's worse, the Brussels attack should have proven to you that those policies wouldn't do a darn thing to stop terrorist attacks. People don't need to physically go to other places to become terrorists. With all of the mass shootings in America, we should know home grown terrorism is real. We should know the whole world is interconnected and information is exchanged in the blink of an eye.

Lastly, interning Japanese and German Americans in WWII didn't do a darn thing to win the war. It was just the result of racial and ethnic fear mongering. Just as what Trump is proposing will do absolutely nothing to stop terrorism. It's just religious fear mongering.

Unfortunately, racial and religious fear mongering are enough for some people. No thoughtful or practical solutions needed.
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Old 03-23-2016, 11:53 AM
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You do realize we apologized to those people, paid reparations to them and changed our policies since then, right?

Even if you were able to change the policies regarding foreign Muslims, singling out and questioning Muslim American citizens about their travels is a much stickier proposition. The likelihood of successfully pulling that off in today's America is slim to none.

What's worse, the Brussels attack should have proven to you that those policies wouldn't do a darn thing to stop terrorist attacks. People don't need to physically go to other places to become terrorists. With all of the mass shootings in America, we should know home grown terrorism is real. We should know the whole world is interconnected and information is exchanged in the blink of an eye.

Lastly, interning Japanese and German Americans in WWII didn't do a darn thing to win the war. It was just the result of racial and ethnic fear mongering. Just as what Trump is proposing will do absolutely nothing to stop terrorism. It's just religious fear mongering.

Unfortunately, racial and religious fear mongering are enough for some people. No thoughtful or practical solutions needed.

What currently is being done OBVIOUSLY dosent work, (say how would you like to have $150 BILLION back?) something, anything HAS to be done.

Like I said mid sets arnt going to change until peoples wifes start coming home in body bags and all that you get back is a head, a foot in a boot, and half a hand with her wedding ring on it, just from going to wal mart to get your Chinese made crap! Again ""oh that's bad, but its over there, no worries here"

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You do realize we apologized to those people, paid reparations to them and changed our policies since then, right?

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I do know this ALL TO WELL, I am a second generation German. my grand parents were barred from coming here until all the CRAP got straightened out.
Polices have changed and I refer back to my earlier comment, we have lost every conflict since the "Policies changed"

How then should we "MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN" ?? how?

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Old 03-23-2016, 12:07 PM
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I do know this ALL TO WELL, I am a second generation German. my grand parents were barred from coming here until all the CRAP got straightened out.
Then you should know times are different. This is not 1944.

Let me ask you this:

Since these policies work so well, and Louisiana is full of folks who agree with them, why hasn't "terrorism" been stopped in Louisiana? Why do we still have people shooting up movie theaters? Gunning down people in the streets on a daily basis.

If you have all the answers, why isn't Louisiana a peaceful oasis? How are you so sure policies that you haven't been able to apply here will work for the entire US and the world? All we have to do is vote for Trump. Explain that to me.
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