permanent ban

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

But who can say if the government thugs will show up at your door first to take your guns, vaccinate your children, confiscate your porn collection, burn your Bible, make you take down your Confederate flag, smash your still, inspect your freezer for too many speckled trout, or ask if your boat has the right permit to join the Cajun Navy. But I think the days are coming when more and more honest Americans are going to be subjected to this nonsense.

You are against vaccinations?

[mcjaredsandwich]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

You are against vaccinations?

"I'll be damned if the government makes me vaccinate my child to protect them from preventable deadly diseases and ensure herd immunity. What absurdities will they require next?"

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich

"I'll be damned if the government makes me vaccinate my child to protect them from preventable deadly diseases and ensure herd immunity. What absurdities will they require next?"

They will probably come up with something like requiring all males to register for selective services at 18 with fines and even possible prison time for not doing so.

Or what if they would mandate some type of "social" registry where they apply a serial number to your child at birth?

[meaux fishing]

Originally Posted by Goooh

They will probably come up with something like requiring all males to register for selective services at 18 with fines and even possible prison time for not doing so.

Or what if they would mandate some type of "social" registry where they apply a serial number to your child at birth?

That's absurd

[mcjaredsandwich]

Originally Posted by meaux fishing

That's absurd

They can't make me pay taxes that will be a small part of my retirement when I turn 66! How dare they!!!

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Goooh

They will probably come up with something like requiring all males to register for selective services at 18 with fines and even possible prison time for not doing so.

Gonna be all females soon too. Does no one have a problem with your daughters being drafted to serve in Hillary's Army? What could possibly go wrong?

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Gonna be all females soon too. Does no one have a problem with your daughters being drafted to serve in Hillary's Army? What could possibly go wrong?

We are all created equal


right?

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

We are all created equal


right?

Should the law be changed by Congress or by the executive branch?

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Should the law be changed by Congress or by the executive branch?

Do you even civics bro

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

You are against vaccinations?

No. I have a lot of them and so do my children. My bigger issue is when the government is pushing unnecessary vaccinations over the objections of faith and conscience by the parents.

For example, my wife and I are not fans of the HPV vaccination. Can you make a strong case that this vaccine should be forced on 10-12 year olds over the objections of faith and conscience of their parents? Or that HEP B vaccinations are really needed by children before starting school?

Early childhood vaccinations that prevent easily transmitted diseases from casual contact make more sense than vaccinations against diseases most commonly transmitted through sex or sharing needles. Parents may reasonable decide that their children do not need childhood vaccinations against STDs and diseases contracted through sharing of needles. Why not just wait until children turn 18 to make their own decisions on these?

Painting them all with a broad brush is deceptive and manipulative, as is confounding what a wise parent should do with what the government should force ALL parents to do.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

No. I have a lot of them and so do my children. My bigger issue is when the government is pushing unnecessary vaccinations over the objections of faith and conscience by the parents.

For example, my wife and I are not fans of the HPV vaccination. Can you make a strong case that this vaccine should be forced on 10-12 year olds over the objections of faith and conscience of their parents? Or that HEP B vaccinations are really needed by children before starting school?

Early childhood vaccinations that prevent easily transmitted diseases from casual contact make more sense than vaccinations against diseases most commonly transmitted through sex or sharing needles. Parents may reasonable decide that their children do not need childhood vaccinations against STDs and diseases contracted through sharing of needles. Why not just wait until children turn 18 to make their own decisions on these?

Painting them all with a broad brush is deceptive and manipulative, as is confounding what a wise parent should do with what the government should force ALL parents to do.

Where are you living where HPV vaccines are mandatory anyways?

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

Where are you living where HPV vaccines are mandatory anyways?

At this stage it is technically only recommended in Louisiana, but the legislature has approved money for education, and it has been added to the schedule of "recommended" vaccines.

The doctor was using the official "Schedule" to push for it pretty heavily on our visit to Oschner this summer to get a teen up to date on vaccines for college.

Several states are requiring it now. I don't really want to constrain my teens to attending college in Louisiana, and with the number of states now requiring it, it may well be back in front of the legislature soon pushing it.

But the real issue is never, "Why woudn't a person want it?"

The real issue is whether it should be a government mandate or a personal choice.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

At this stage it is technically only recommended in Louisiana, but the legislature has approved money for education, and it has been added to the schedule of "recommended" vaccines.

The doctor was using the official "Schedule" to push for it pretty heavily on our visit to Oschner this summer to get a teen up to date on vaccines for college.

Several states are requiring it now. I don't really want to constrain my teens to attending college in Louisiana, and with the number of states now requiring it, it may well be back in front of the legislature soon pushing it.

But the real issue is never, "Why woudn't a person want it?"

The real issue is whether it should be a government mandate or a personal choice.

There are very very few states that require that vaccination. You can "stick it to them" by not sending your child to those states. Wouldn't want your child to be indoctrinated by all those liberals up there anyways

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

There are very very few states that require that vaccination. You can "stick it to them" by not sending your child to those states. Wouldn't want your child to be indoctrinated by all those liberals up there anyways

The HPV vaccine was required in Texas from 2007-2011 until the legislature overturned the governor's abuse of power through his executive order.

It would be naive to think the same abuse of power could not happen in Louisiana.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

The HPV vaccine was required in Texas from 2007-2011 until the legislature overturned the governor's abuse of power through his executive order.

It would be naive to think the same abuse of power could not happen in Louisiana.

How do you sleep at night worrying about all these conspiracy theories with the government?