15 Trout Limit Discussion PUBLIC

[lsufish]

Originally Posted by mikedatiger

I am trying to figure this out as well. According to one of the research articles posted:

"Because the spawning season lasts so long, and the fish produce so many (larvae), it compensates for any factors that might interrupt reproduction," Shepard said. That dynamic reproduction cycle results in a survival rate that so out-paced the high predation factor, it would be almost impossible for hook-and-line anglers to make a telling difference in their overall numbers, Shepard said."

Seems like a limit change would have very little impact, if any, especially with office fisherman only catching 5 fish

I agree 100%. W is upset that some powerful people changed the limit without as much research as he would of liked. I understand his gripe there, but that does not mean that is the cause for not catching as many big trout.

I think that what you highlighted above proves that oyster issue chiken brought up is way more important than the 15 vs 25 limit. However, Brother W doesn't want to preach that verse from the pulpit i guess.

[Salty]

Originally Posted by lsufish

I agree 100%. W is upset that some powerful people changed the limit without as much research as he would of liked. I understand his gripe there, but that does not mean that is the cause for not catching as many big trout.

I think that what you highlighted above proves that oyster issue chiken brought up is way more important than the 15 vs 25 limit. However, Brother W doesn't want to preach that verse from the pulpit i guess.

Actually, I think we'd all like to hear how he shifted direction in mid-stream of the oyster issue. Can't say I'm at all surprised.

[Feesherman]

Originally Posted by lsufish

I dont know the answer, but i would suggest if you want to be taken seriously on this trout limit quest be sure to address that contridiction.

Surprised it took this long to bring up this very valid point.

[PaulMyers]

Originally Posted by weedeater

So far every contradiction has been a contradiction to address a contradiction

Yep, that cleared it up for everyone.

[weedeater]

Originally Posted by PaulMyers

Yep, that cleared it up for everyone.

Figure only peoples time I can waste is the "office fishermen" since all the real fishermen or out fishing and can't reply right now

[bmac]

I brought it up awhile back but MathGeek shot it down as a straw man. Of course it was one in the context of his particular argument, but I didn't have the energy or the time to explain that I was lumping all of the arguments together.

["W"]

Here are Facts...CCA and Lawmakers and a small group of office fisherman came up with this law..
There was Zero facts and biologist and WL&F biologist were ignored and pushed aside

In 6 years it is fact that Big Trout numbers or down.
.every guide who fishes will tell u this also

90% of you on this thread spend 3/4 less time on the water than I do.. So don't tell me my theory is wrong when you don't spend the time or know 1st hand the problem
99% of you talk about crap you don't know..you yap yap yap behind a desk and fish on weekend and think you know something

You don't know

...you don't see it enough to know
...your not around enough to know
I been on this lake from 5years old and I spend more time on the water in one year than 80 % of you do in 10years

So please save the B.S. For someone who you can blow smoke ups azz

[mcjaredsandwich]

Originally Posted by Salty

Actually, I think we'd all like to hear how he shifted direction in mid-stream of the oyster issue. Can't say I'm at all surprised.

I'd like to hear this one as well.

Originally Posted by "W"

Here are Facts...CCA and Lawmakers and a small group of office fisherman came up with this law..
There was Zero facts and biologist and WL&F biologist were ignored and pushed aside

In 6 years it is fact that Big Trout numbers or down.
.every guide who fishes will tell u this also

90% of you on this thread spend 3/4 less time on the water than I do.. So don't tell me my theory is wrong when you don't spend the time or know 1st hand the problem
99% of you talk about crap you don't know..you yap yap yap behind a desk and fish on weekend and think you know something

You don't know

...you don't see it enough to know
...your not around enough to know
I been on this lake from 5years old and I spend more time on the water in one year than 80 % of you do in 10years

So please save the B.S. For someone who you can blow smoke ups azz

sounds to me like you're getting mad at the people on this site who have agreed with you. Since you're the "1%" why don't you spread the wealth around and let some people know where to fish with your infinite 30+ years of knowledge on the lake. That would reduce trout numbers by "office fisherman" catching limits each time they go out. But, you get mad if ANYONE comes within 1000yards of you while you are on the lake.

Rather than changing the limit back to 25 (which you state most people can't catch a 15 fish limit) and that 25 fish will reduce the population to numbers that support big fish, why not lead the pilgrims to the land of opportunity? Higher number of boat with higher number of limits equals more fish taken. Simple math, but then again that takes kindness towards fishermen that don't spend as much time on the lake in 10 years as you do in 1 year. If you're trying to get the average joe or office fisherman in this case on you're side, you shouldn't be attacking them, or giving them ***** because they aren't privlaged to work offshore. At least they're working.

Gaining support by how you treat people sounds more difficult than getting the limits changed.

[adamsfence]

Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich

I'd like to hear this one as well.

sounds to me like you're getting mad at the people on this site who have agreed with you. Since you're the "1%" why don't you spread the wealth around and let some people know where to fish with your infinite 30+ years of knowledge on the lake. That would reduce trout numbers by "office fisherman" catching limits each time they go out. But, you get mad if ANYONE comes within 1000yards of you while you are on the lake.

Rather than changing the limit back to 25 (which you state most people can't catch a 15 fish limit) and that 25 fish will reduce the population to numbers that support big fish, why not lead the pilgrims to the land of opportunity? Higher number of boat with higher number of limits equals more fish taken. Simple math, but then again that takes kindness towards fishermen that don't spend as much time on the lake in 10 years as you do in 1 year. If you're trying to get the average joe or office fisherman in this case on you're side, you shouldn't be attacking them, or giving them ***** because they aren't privlaged to work offshore. At least they're working.

Gaining support by how you treat people sounds more difficult than getting the limits changed.

[all star rod]

Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich

I'd like to hear this one as well.

sounds to me like you're getting mad at the people on this site who have agreed with you. Since you're the "1%" why don't you spread the wealth around and let some people know where to fish with your infinite 30+ years of knowledge on the lake. That would reduce trout numbers by "office fisherman" catching limits each time they go out. But, you get mad if ANYONE comes within 1000yards of you while you are on the lake.

Rather than changing the limit back to 25 (which you state most people can't catch a 15 fish limit) and that 25 fish will reduce the population to numbers that support big fish, why not lead the pilgrims to the land of opportunity? Higher number of boat with higher number of limits equals more fish taken. Simple math, but then again that takes kindness towards fishermen that don't spend as much time on the lake in 10 years as you do in 1 year. If you're trying to get the average joe or office fisherman in this case on you're side, you shouldn't be attacking them, or giving them ***** because they aren't privlaged to work offshore. At least they're working.

Gaining support by how you treat people sounds more difficult than getting the limits changed.

Great post but too bad you will not be around long enough to enjoy it.....ClubW is gonna take you out....lol

[FREON]

Originally Posted by "W"

Here are Facts...CCA and Lawmakers and a small group of office fisherman came up with this law..
There was Zero facts and biologist and WL&F biologist were ignored and pushed aside

In 6 years it is fact that Big Trout numbers or down.
.every guide who fishes will tell u this also

90% of you on this thread spend 3/4 less time on the water than I do.. So don't tell me my theory is wrong when you don't spend the time or know 1st hand the problem
99% of you talk about crap you don't know..you yap yap yap behind a desk and fish on weekend and think you know something

You don't know

...you don't see it enough to know
...your not around enough to know
I been on this lake from 5years old and I spend more time on the water in one year than 80 % of you do in 10years

So please save the B.S. For someone who you can blow smoke ups azz

W sure spouts a lot of numbers and statistics here. The truth is he can't show one (1) single piece of statistical evidence to back any of it up

[Lake Chuck Duck]

Originally Posted by FREON

W sure spouts a lot of numbers and statistics here. The truth is he can't show one (1) single piece of statistical evidence to back any of it up

Here is a statistic, 99% of the people on this site are taller than W! He just mad he wasn't tall enough for the rides at Contraband Days.

As for office fisherman.......GUILTY! I fish on Saturday's and could care less how much I catch. Anymore than 5 fish and thats more than I want to clean/cook lol.

[Salty]

I argued this BS from the start simply because I knew it was a ploy for W to draw attention to himself. If you do not see that......you are worse off than SpellGeek.

[Hydro]

Originally Posted by "W"

Here are Facts...CCA and Lawmakers and a small group of office fisherman came up with this law..
There was Zero facts and biologist and WL&F biologist were ignored and pushed aside

In 6 years it is fact that Big Trout numbers or down.
.every guide who fishes will tell u this also

90% of you on this thread spend 3/4 less time on the water than I do.. So don't tell me my theory is wrong when you don't spend the time or know 1st hand the problem
99% of you talk about crap you don't know..you yap yap yap behind a desk and fish on weekend and think you know something

You don't know

...you don't see it enough to know
...your not around enough to know
I been on this lake from 5years old and I spend more time on the water in one year than 80 % of you do in 10years

So please save the B.S. For someone who you can blow smoke ups azz

You are one arrogant, "butt hurt", no spellin' little man ...

Here you go again, throw everyone under the bus because they can only fish on the weekends ???

I worked 14x14 for 20 years before taking an "office" job... Guided fishing and hunting thru school before that... Spent more time on ALL of Louisiana's waters, not just this one hole, than you could even imagine...

Time to GROW UP "W", put some "big-boy" pants on for a change !!!

Pathetic...

You started off with a real good thread, until you destroyed it...

Hydro

[PaulMyers]

Originally Posted by Hydro

Time to GROW UP "W", put some "big-boy" pants on for a change !!!

He can't, They don't fit him. Literally!!!!

["W"]

Originally Posted by Hydro

You are one arrogant, "butt hurt", no spellin' little man ...

Here you go again, throw everyone under the bus because they can only fish on the weekends ???

I worked 14x14 for 20 years before taking an "office" job... Guided fishing and hunting thru school before that... Spent more time on ALL of Louisiana's waters, not just this one hole, than you could even imagine...

Time to GROW UP "W", put some "big-boy" pants on for a change !!!

Pathetic...

You started off with a real good thread, until you destroyed it...

Hydro

So did you go to Baton Rouge to cry about trout limits???

[Hydro]

Originally Posted by "W"

So did you go to Baton Rouge to cry about trout limits???

Big-Boys don't cry "W"... Only little "W"ennies do

Hydro

[Salty]

Originally Posted by "W"

So did you go to Baton Rouge to cry about trout limits???

Did you go to Baton Rouge to stop it? Ugh...apparently not.

[ckinchen]

I just undeleted the two post that were deleted by the mods (w's and mcjared's), I want people to see how W really feels. Take a look everyone, this is your leader in action. Ready to follow him to battle?

[Salty]

W, we all want to hear about the oyster situation that Chicken mentioned. "Cents" you ain't denied it....are we to assume it's true? C'mon, "Mr. I've fished Big Lake "cents" I was 4' tall."

Inquirin' minds want to know.