Policeman arrests firefighter rendering aid in Louisiana

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Risking life in prison for a couple lbs of pot seems to confirm the hypothesis that pot leads to poor decision making. Once the cost gets that high, sober minded, non-addicts would simply choose a path without so much risk.

Yeah. You're right.

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[Goooh]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Risking life in prison for a couple lbs of pot seems to confirm the hypothesis that pot leads to poor decision making. Once the cost gets that high, sober minded, non-addicts would simply choose a path without so much risk.

“Workers distracted by e-mail and phone calls suffer a fall in IQ more than twice that found in marijuana smokers.”

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/public...f-multitasking

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Goooh

“Workers distracted by e-mail and phone calls suffer a fall in IQ more than twice that found in marijuana smokers.”

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/public...f-multitasking

The assertion seems fishy on its face, because of how IQ is measured in standard tests, so I've conducted a thorough scholarly search for the original scholarly publication. The trouble is that even though the Rosen quotation has been widely cited in opinion pieces and blog type stuff, the underlying study is not available. It is not clear how this purported study was performed of if Rosen just made it up, because she did not cite a scholarly source (authors, journal, title of article).

This purported email and phone call induced IQ drop, is it long-term (like with marijuana use), or is it temporarily limited to the time when one is multitasking the emails and phone calls, etc.? Science is not science at all unless the methodology, data, and results are published. This one fails the smell test. But I bet the claims fool lots of pot heads.

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

The assertion seems fishy on its face, because of how IQ is measured in standard tests, so I've conducted a thorough scholarly search for the original scholarly publication. The trouble is that even though the Rosen quotation has been widely cited in opinion pieces and blog type stuff, the underlying study is not available. It is not clear how this purported study was performed of if Rosen just made it up, because she did not cite a scholarly source (authors, journal, title of article).



This purported email and phone call induced IQ drop, is it long-term (like with marijuana use), or is it temporarily limited to the time when one is multitasking the emails and phone calls, etc.? Science is not science at all unless the methodology, data, and results are published. This one fails the smell test. But I bet the claims fool lots of pot heads.

Just playing the game like you do.

So science is defined as the quoting of scientists?

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Goooh

Just playing the game like you do.

So science is defined as the quoting of scientists?

Science is publishing a full methodology along with the data so that experiments can be properly interpreted verified by independent sources.

You posted nothing but an anonymous quote out of context. Meaningless.

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

The assertion seems fishy on its face, because of how IQ is measured in standard tests, so I've conducted a thorough scholarly search for the original scholarly publication. The trouble is that even though the Rosen quotation has been widely cited in opinion pieces and blog type stuff, the underlying study is not available. It is not clear how this purported study was performed of if Rosen just made it up, because she did not cite a scholarly source (authors, journal, title of article).



This purported email and phone call induced IQ drop, is it long-term (like with marijuana use), or is it temporarily limited to the time when one is multitasking the emails and phone calls, etc.? Science is not science at all unless the methodology, data, and results are published. This one fails the smell test. But I bet the claims fool lots of pot heads.

What's sad is do to his squareness all his cool colleagues who burn never let him know so he never met a person who he looked up to who was a toker so his perception is a little off.


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[mriguy]

Here we go again

[Clampy]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/du-pont-he...7.html#16nGWlb

Too bad they didn't catch this dude with a joint. If only.


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[Montauk17]

[Matt G]

The real "drug" that is affecting people's IQ is Facebook. Ban that sheet! I see people with MBA's and CPA licenses who sound like their straight out of that stupid movie "Clueless" when it comes to Facebook.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Matt G

The real "drug" that is affecting people's IQ is Facebook. Ban that sheet! I see people with MBA's and CPA licenses who sound like their straight out of that stupid movie "Clueless" when it comes to Facebook.

At USAFA, we had a data analysis problem in the math class presenting data for IQ vs. weekly hours on Facebook.

[OnePunchRex]

Mathgeek, S T F U, you just look stupid.

[MathGeek]

How's the saying go?

When you have the facts, argue the facts.

When you have the law, argue the law.

When you have neither, attack your opponent.

[OnePunchRex]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

How's the saying go?

When you have the facts, argue the facts.

When you have the law, argue the law.

When you have neither, attack your opponent.

Dude, you eat gafftop, not attacking you - just stating the obvious. You're not my opponent, you are too much of a mental midget to rise to that status.

[DannyI]

True dat Geek, only true acceptable methodology, approved calibrated instrumentation that meets approved SQC criteria, is acceptable data, all other is considered nonsense whether it's in petroleum, health & sciences, etc.

[Clampy]

The system is awesome.

Get popped once for drugs.
Goes on record
Can't get a job cuz you are a convicted druggie

Society says to rehabilitate but you can't get a job now so what are they supposed to do I guess go back to what they were doing and pray not to get caught.
The system perpetuates itself and keeps nice nonviolent offenders behind bars for prison labor. I mean who would you want cleaning up roads and stuff like that the inmates do. Murders or Johnny that got caught with dime bag ?


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[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Clampy

The system is awesome.

Get popped once for drugs.
Goes on record
Can't get a job cuz you are a convicted druggie

Society says to rehabilitate but you can't get a job now so what are they supposed to do I guess go back to what they were doing and pray not to get caught.

Had a close family member get a drug dealing conviction. Employment was not a big problem for a hard working individual presenting a flawless appearance, always on time, great work record, and willing to pee in a cup. Having parole and probation officers assure employers that the job candidate is clean and has been in perfect compliance with parole and probation conditions goes a long way. Having former employers describe a tremendous work ethic goes a long way.

Employers reasonably assume drug offenders tend to be less motivated and less likely to follow company rules than non-offenders. A job candidate with a drug history has a higher burden of proof that they are different. In addition to the above considerations, another good way to put a single drug offense in the past is some renewed training or education. Some glowing trainer/instructor recommendations goes a long way too.

[Clampy]

Anecdotal and he's white


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[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Clampy

Anecdotal and he's white


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Hispanic. And one counter example is sufficient to disprove your completely general claim that one drug conviction shuts down employment.

[OnePunchRex]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Hispanic. And one counter example is sufficient to disprove your completely general claim that one drug conviction shuts down employment.

So is you example mowing grass or building houses for a living?