Choosing not to work?

[eman]

Back in the last oil crash I saw guys that i thought had some sense,lose everything they (and the bank) owned. To proud ( or stupid) To take a $10 -$12 hr job to try to stay afloat till things recovered.

[simplepeddler]

false sense of reality..........just listen to our president right now.....no clue.......smart as a whip......but he has no clue....know all the buzzwords......but no clue how to apply them.

We live in a culture that accepts mediocrity....everyone gets a trophy.

I consider myself successful, and I can sit here and tell my story much the same as the ones above.

But instead I will tell of my 18 year old son.
He drives a 11 year old vehicle that has been paid for for 8. He didn't like it at first and many MANY nights I felt guilty for not going out and buying him something new, because frankly, I can.........but I know in my heart he has to learn to provide for himself.

He has over a 4.0.......works 35 hours a week, volunteers at church and will be entering college with 26 hours of credit.

He just received a raise, and while it's not "independence" money, it's well above minimum wage. He expects more out of himself, because I expect more out of him, because my dad DAMN well expected more out of me.

We have a leader that wants to have parents "pay" for their kids insurance until they are 26 years old.

Hell my son pays 1800 a year for his own insurance.........

We simply cannot seperate the real need from the lazy pititful bastards.

No excuse was good enough for my dad......none......nada.......Stayed up to late drinking? Tough ****.....puke while you work.........blisters from yesterday's 12 hours? Too bad *****, get out there and work.......want more pay? Show them why you DESERVE it........

When I bagged groceries in high school, there was no other two bag boys that were going to out do me.........I have NEVER asked for a raise in life. And I have never accepted a handout from the government.

But I can tell you this, if my family needed me, I would flip hamburgers in a heartbeat so my children could SEE ME WORKING and not sitting on my *** filled with a false sense of pride.

[mriguy]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

false sense of reality..........just listen to our president right now.....no clue.......smart as a whip......but he has no clue....know all the buzzwords......but no clue how to apply them.

We live in a culture that accepts mediocrity....everyone gets a trophy.

I consider myself successful, and I can sit here and tell my story much the same as the ones above.

But instead I will tell of my 18 year old son.
He drives a 11 year old vehicle that has been paid for for 8. He didn't like it at first and many MANY nights I felt guilty for not going out and buying him something new, because frankly, I can.........but I know in my heart he has to learn to provide for himself.

He has over a 4.0.......works 35 hours a week, volunteers at church and will be entering college with 26 hours of credit.

He just received a raise, and while it's not "independence" money, it's well above minimum wage. He expects more out of himself, because I expect more out of him, because my dad DAMN well expected more out of me.

We have a leader that wants to have parents "pay" for their kids insurance until they are 26 years old.

Hell my son pays 1800 a year for his own insurance.........

We simply cannot seperate the real need from the lazy pititful bastards.

No excuse was good enough for my dad......none......nada.......Stayed up to late drinking? Tough ****.....puke while you work.........blisters from yesterday's 12 hours? Too bad *****, get out there and work.......want more pay? Show them why you DESERVE it........

When I bagged groceries in high school, there was no other two bag boys that were going to out do me.........I have NEVER asked for a raise in life. And I have never accepted a handout from the government.

But I can tell you this, if my family needed me, I would flip hamburgers in a heartbeat so my children could SEE ME WORKING and not sitting on my *** filled with a false sense of pride.

Great post!

[fishinpox]

another problem i find is all the plant work in louisiana overpays general labor , they spend more time hiding in the plant trying to pretend to be busy than they do working for the 20-25/ hr. then they lose the job and end up coming to our jobsites demanding 20/hr and cant even read a tape. sorry bro so people were just ment to be ditch diggers and the wages for digging a ditch isnt 20/ hr. i have saved and saved and saved so if the bottom falls out i can survive BUT if i needed to id go flu burgers at mcdonalds for 8$/hr if i had to no problem ...better than earning nothing

[eman]

Originally Posted by fishinpox

another problem i find is all the plant work in louisiana overpays general labor , they spend more time hiding in the plant trying to pretend to be busy than they do working for the 20-25/ hr. Then they lose the job and end up coming to our jobsites demanding 20/hr and cant even read a tape. Sorry bro so people were just ment to be ditch diggers and the wages for digging a ditch isnt 20/ hr. I have saved and saved and saved so if the bottom falls out i can survive but if i needed to id go flu burgers at mcdonalds for 8$/hr if i had to no problem ...better than earning nothing

amen and ditto!

["W"]

Kids don't want to work or earn nothing !!


Some do get an upbringing like peddlers kids but most are lost in lack of earning it


I don't ever want to depend on 1 penny from the Goverment ever !!

I can make a living using my hands if need be !!

[Captain Mike P.]

Originally Posted by marty f

I have a question that has baffled me for years, and with this recent oil price down fall it has come up again.

It has been said that many people would rather not work at all if they could not get the pay they wanted. I have actually seen this first hand, been told this when offering someone a job. "Id rather stay at home and do nothing then work for that" and Im talking a $20 hr starting job.

It blows my mind. But heres my question, how do these people live? how do they get by, how do they keep the lights on, pay the mortgage, put gas in their car, put food on the table? how ? how? I understand there is Gov assistants but is that system so fruitful one can turn down 20$ an hr

And its not just recently, Id have to say Ive seen this mentality for the last 15-20 yrs, I don't get it.

I have worked my entire life since I was 14, and even earlier on G dads farm. Id like to think Im a smart guy, not much boggles me. Im in aviation and we see ALOT of new tech all the time and I get it, but this whole living, getting by with out a job really does boggles me, Im dumbfounded by it, I cant wrap my mind around how you can "live" with out a job. Ive never had to use gov assistance so maybe I just don't understand how it works, how it can allow you to turn down good paying jobs.

Now Im not talking about retired peps, hell I hope to be retired or semi in 5 yrs, Im talking people in their 20s-30s. Maybe Im not seeing something

This really has bothered me for some time now, yrs and yrs, do you have an answer?

It's all in the way you were raised and the way that you raise your children. It's cutting Grandpaw's grass for $10 to buy something you want. We all spoil our children today because times aren't that rough. They grow up never knowing what it's like to do without.

[bjhooper82]

When I was was growing up I didn't even know that it was an option. I truly thought you were obligated by law to have a job. Like some of you have already stated, it's all about how you were raised.

[Pat Babaz]

I was really surprised when Rita blew threw S.W. Louisiana how many of the hardworking ,independent don't ever want nothing from the gooberment types were in line for ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING they could get free..... Like disaster food stamps, red cross money, fema money, road home, mre's, you name it, if it was free they wanted it whether they even needed it or not.

[irokcj5]

Simple, they don't have the greatest motivator of all time.....hunger. As long as we enable their behavior, which we won't, it will continue getting worse and then most people will be dependent on the govt for their care and they will be owned and America will be over. We're almost there. I hate to sound so pessimistic but after Tuesday nights Sotu address...boys we're in trouble...

[marty f]

soooo There I was last night at 630p at the quick care with my son (he ended up having the flu) Im all signed in, theres an elderly couple in already there, and thats all. The elderly couple gets called back, so its just us waiting.

In bust some extremely loud *** kids yelling and screaming like they were raising in the jungle........... So while the LARGE female democrap is still filling out her welfare paper work, they call her and her offspring to come back, all along Im thinking here I am paying for my sons visit, as well this sorry ***'s doctors visit and they call her back while I have been waiting 20 mins with my sick son.

I piped up and said "HEY! excuse me but we have been sitting here waiting to see the Dr for 20 mins, this person just walks in, isn't even finished with her paper work and gets called before us, whats up with that? whos in charge here I want to talk to them!"

The nurse closes the door, and comes back in less then a minute and calls us back..................

Its coming, and not soon enough!!

[Crankbait36]

Wow those democrats drive me nuts! They think they are privileged since they get everything given to them!

[Bluechip]

Originally Posted by Crankbait36

Wow those democrats drive me nuts! They think they are privileged since they get everything given to them!

I know plenty of Democrats that go to work everyday and have all of their life. Not sure where you get your information from.

[Crankbait36]

Originally Posted by Bluechip

I know plenty of Democrats that go to work everyday and have all of their life. Not sure where you get your information from.

All of theses welfare leaches vote democrat! If you don't believe me look at the statistics of poverty and see who runs these cities! Democrats they ruin places, look no further than Opleousas, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Shreveport and other democrat run towns and tell me otherwise! Democrats = ruining America one town at a time!

[Bluechip]

Originally Posted by Crankbait36

All of theses welfare leaches vote democrat! If you don't believe me look at the statistics of poverty and see who runs these cities! Democrats they ruin places, look no further than Opleousas, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Shreveport and other democrat run towns and tell me otherwise! Democrats = ruining America one town at a time!

If you look at the voting precinct numbers you will see that their voter turnout is extremely low compared to 10 plus years ago. And that's not statistics, it's facts.

The problem is that the working man won't get off their azz and vote.... Have a good day!!

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by Crankbait36

All of theses welfare leaches vote democrat! If you don't believe me look at the statistics of poverty and see who runs these cities!!

But not all dems are welfare leaches.



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[Crankbait36]

Originally Posted by Goooh

But not all dems are welfare leaches.



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Your right the rest are crooks like Mary!

[MathGeek]

Back in the Reagan era, my mom once found herself unemployed due to catastrophic events at her place of work. Having paid into the system for many years, she began to talk about applying for the applicable government handouts.

My brothers and I would hear nothing of this, even though we were in college and my mom's contributions were an important part of our support. We encouraged my mom to move to Baton Rouge and share an apartment with us to reduce costs while she looked for a job. It was a humbling and inconvenient experience for everyone, but she eventually found work and had a productive and rewarding career in a new field until she retired.

[simplepeddler]

................dude politics is like Jerry Johnson owning BOTH teams in the Superbowl.........
We play the game, they pick the "winners" and "loosers" for their gain

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

................dude politics is like Jerry Johnson owning BOTH teams in the Superbowl.........
We play the game, they pick the "winners" and "loosers" for their gain

Who the hell is Jerry Johnson? lmao!!

I've probably had part-time "jobs" since I was 8 years old. Started out helping my pawpaw mow yards. He'd give me a trash can and a little "grabber" as I always called it, and would tell me to go pick up all the sticks and pine cones in the yard so he could mow. Probably about 10 or 12, I "graduated" to mowing the yard. That's how I made money until I was about 17, when I got my first job as a "courtesy clerk", aka bag boy, at albertson's. Went on to several more jobs until I got my first full-time job when I was almost 22, planting marsh grass, while working towards my Master's Degree.

I'm 26 now, and make right around $25/hr. But I worked my *** off to get to that. I was taught that you had to work to earn anything good, whether it was on the job or in school. I can't stand lazy people that would just rather sit around and do nothing, or want $15/hr to flip burgers.