Proposed new zones for 2016-2017 duck season

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by BGcoreg

Another good read is on the refuge forum, under Louisiana flyway. Larry actually posts in that forum along with some other knowledgable guys. Take a look. I believe Rick hall started the thread called " here we go again"

Had to leave that site. TheDuckSlayer is aweful

[Smalls]

Watching the commission meeting right now. A lot of comments regarding the season dates being too early.

A lot of people that don't like SELA being in the East Zone as well. They want the second saturday opener, not the east zone opener.

And by "a lot", I mean of those that commented. 360 total comments.

[Smalls]

Rice farms are going in the east zone, SELA stays in Coastal Zone. Yakupzack only one opposed, on the grounds that he felt the commission should wait to make the decision in April, which would have left the current zones in place in 2016, making the decision for 2017-2020.

[capt coonassty]

Is it over? I just logged into to listen and hear nothing but it say's its still ongoing.

Edit: Never mind, came back on.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by capt coonassty

Is it over? I just logged into to listen and hear nothing but it say's its still ongoing.

Edit: Never mind, came back on.

Yeah, they had taken a short break. I went to lunch at that point, so I don't know what they decided on with that last item related to funding towards the breeding grounds.

I think Yak's thoughts were in the right place. He felt like there were very hasty decisions being made by everyone involved, and that hunter's opinions may have changed if the season were allowed to run its course and a decision made in April. It seems the only change of heart would have come from rice hunters, but based on what Larry said, it wasn't the rice hunters who were calling for the change in the zones. It was the rice farmers.

I think most people are going to get what the wanted. The only question is if the early season in the coastal becomes the norm rather than the exception. That was something else that Yak pressed--that the commission needs to make a concerted effort to set the season on the Second Saturday in November. Some years it would be earlier, some it would be later, but it would be consistent. Some may not like it one year, but it would come around the next year.

That is the first time I've actually heard Larry speak. I can't imagine waterfowl in Louisiana being in better hands than they are right now. Hearing him talk about how he does not work for the rice farmers, he works for hunters....I don't think you can ask anymore than that. He may not always make decisions that are popular with everyone, but he is trying to do what is best. I like that.

[AubreyLaHaye458]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Yeah, they had taken a short break. I went to lunch at that point, so I don't know what they decided on with that last item related to funding towards the breeding grounds.

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[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458

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Even more reason not to donate.

[AubreyLaHaye458]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

Even more reason not to donate.

I donated an extra $50 with your name on it.


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[Smalls]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

Even more reason not to donate.

Yeah I mean, since you likely bought a license this year, they already got some of your dollars.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458

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Best bang for the buck. They get matching funds and have the capacity to actually do work on the ground with very little overhead costs.

If they spent the money here, people would get upset if it was spent in a portion of the state they dont hunt. Cant please everyone, send it up to where the majority of our ducks come from

[seachaser250]

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It's a damn shame they didn't give some of that money to a science based duck hunters organization like Delta Waterfowl. Why not let Delta and DU do some good with those funds?

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by seachaser250

It's a damn shame they didn't give some of that money to a science based duck hunters organization like Delta Waterfowl. Why not let Delta and DU do some good with those funds?

Delta and DU are not competing organizations. DU is much larger than Delta and has the capacity to get on the ground work done. DU is able to quadruple the money with matching. Instead of $1 million going to breeding grounds, there is $4 million. Very low overhead for a non-profit also.

[BGcoreg]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Yeah, they had taken a short break. I went to lunch at that point, so I don't know what they decided on with that last item related to funding towards the breeding grounds.

I think Yak's thoughts were in the right place. He felt like there were very hasty decisions being made by everyone involved, and that hunter's opinions may have changed if the season were allowed to run its course and a decision made in April. It seems the only change of heart would have come from rice hunters, but based on what Larry said, it wasn't the rice hunters who were calling for the change in the zones. It was the rice farmers.

I think most people are going to get what the wanted. The only question is if the early season in the coastal becomes the norm rather than the exception. That was something else that Yak pressed--that the commission needs to make a concerted effort to set the season on the Second Saturday in November. Some years it would be earlier, some it would be later, but it would be consistent. Some may not like it one year, but it would come around the next year.

That is the first time I've actually heard Larry speak. I can't imagine waterfowl in Louisiana being in better hands than they are right now. Hearing him talk about how he does not work for the rice farmers, he works for hunters....I don't think you can ask anymore than that. He may not always make decisions that are popular with everyone, but he is trying to do what is best. I like that.

Made me feel good when Larry said that while I was listening

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Smalls

That is the first time I've actually heard Larry speak. I can't imagine waterfowl in Louisiana being in better hands than they are right now. Hearing him talk about how he does not work for the rice farmers, he works for hunters....I don't think you can ask anymore than that. He may not always make decisions that are popular with everyone, but he is trying to do what is best. I like that.

Dude knows his stuff. Never seen him stumped on a question and is always available for questions on any outdoor website.

[capt coonassty]

100% going to DU.

As someone who goes to many public meetings for work, these are pretty bad. This was the first one I've listened to.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by capt coonassty

100% going to DU.

As someone who goes to many public meetings for work, these are pretty bad. This was the first one I've listened to.

Haha, yeah, I felt like it was a bit disorganized compared to the CPRA meeting I went to a few weeks back.

It also didn't seem very professional to me that the guy kept referring to Bart as "Commissioner Yak". I understand he has an unusual last name, but this is a formal meeting. Use the guy's whole freakin name! Geez.

Wasn't there some discussion at the last one as to whether it should be split between DU and Delta? What was the swaying factor? Wish I would have stuck it out and listened to that part.

[capt coonassty]

I'm not really educated about this but would like to find out what performance goals they are talking about in relation to receiving funding.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by capt coonassty

I'm not really educated about this but would like to find out what performance goals they are talking about in relation to receiving funding.

The September minutes outline the criteria (page 12).

http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/sites/d...ingminutes.pdf

Evaluation Procedure

11 Professional Biologist from LDWF, USFWS, Gulf Coast Joint Venture and LSU evaluated the proposals for:

• Consistency with statute and regional conservation plans
• Value of proposed work to breeding waterfowl
• Project area link to Louisiana
• Probability of successful completion
• Cost effectiveness for securing, restoring and enhancing the most possible habitat

[Duck Butter]

One thing that I think should change is the wording on the zones. Instead of coastal, east, west, just call them Zones 1, 2, 3. Looks silly when parts of western La is in the East zone and the SE Louisiana coast is not in coastal zone.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

One thing that I think should change is the wording on the zones. Instead of coastal, east, west, just call them Zones 1, 2, 3. Looks silly when parts of western La is in the East zone and the SE Louisiana coast is not in coastal zone.

Semantics. Nobody cares about that stuff. lol

The numbers would confuse me more than anything. Stupid deer season with its 10 zones. Screw that. Give me a name that I can use. Numbers are so impersonal. I need a name when I get mad at someone for my season not being good!