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Old 08-07-2013, 11:53 AM
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well thanks guys, yall have entertained the first half of my work day... keep it up, i will need this 2nd half to go by just as quick!

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Old 08-07-2013, 12:10 PM
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This has one and the CCA thread have been the most entertaining, thoughtful and civil discussions I've seen on here. Most excellent.
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:54 PM
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Our opinion goes about as far at those meetings as it does in this forum.
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:02 PM
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So just because they are 2-1/2 times susceptible of being caught they are being over fished? Have you ever caught a 3tail DB?
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:20 PM
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So just because they are 2-1/2 times susceptible of being caught they are being over fished? Have you ever caught a 3tail DB?
Yes, one in Florida on a wooden crate and one in Big Lake on a crabtrap
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:25 PM
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Yes, one in Florida on a wooden crate and one in Big Lake on a crabtrap
Over fished!
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:33 PM
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Over fished!
I have caught every one I have ever seen
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:26 PM
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Let me clear up this tagging for you and make it simple as can be.......
I go to Lake Bourge (sp?) and hit 100 crab traps and tag 20 Triple tail on Weds
Come Saturday Joe Blow, Mo Hoe and Trapper Bob see triple tail ...they catch 7 of the 20 I tagged because they did not go anywhere and they are a site fish
As long as the water is warm and the fish have no reason to leave they will hang around the same set of crab traps for a few days up to a week..
So don’t buy into the CRAB TRAP TAG PROGRAM with Triple tail when you tag 100 in Lake B and catch 30 of them in Lake B
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:32 PM
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Let me clear up this tagging for you and make it simple as can be.......
I go to Lake Bourge (sp?) and hit 100 crab traps and tag 20 Triple tail on Weds
Come Saturday Joe Blow, Mo Hoe and Trapper Bob see triple tail ...they catch 7 of the 20 I tagged because they did not go anywhere and they are a site fish
As long as the water is warm and the fish have no reason to leave they will hang around the same set of crab traps for a few days up to a week..
So don’t buy into the CRAB TRAP TAG PROGRAM with Triple tail when you tag 100 in Lake B and catch 30 of them in Lake B
You are correct, that is exactly how it all happened, thanks for your insight it all makes 'cents' now
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:28 PM
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Lets also add....Tagged 3Tail are 100% easier to see in the water vs any other tag fish the CCA tags
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:10 PM
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Perhaps i am missing something, But i think all of you are really missing DB's point. I have read everything on here, and in particular what DB is saying and nowhere am i reading that he is a staunch supporter of the CCA's actions and that we should all be too....

What i read him saying is that no one here, and no one outside of here, has proposed / created or started anything any better than what the CCA has done in the past. And since CCA has done some good, and also done some not good, we should involve ourselves in this process, and if need be shame the CCA / LDWF into conducting the appropriate studies, and / or sharing of the studies that have been conducted.

If the net resolution of this discussion is only to "stop" supporting the CCA and Star tourney. And nothing goes in to replace the work that they do to all our betterment........................................ ............... welp... there you go.

Not once do i read from DB or certainly not on my part, that there is a desire to just put restrictions into place just "because".

Like i said, perhaps i am missing something here..

I really wish we could get such a lively discussion going about the right's we are all losing due to the continued extention's of the patriot act and our domestic spying policys.... But apparently no one gives a hoot about rights unless it involves fish
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:13 PM
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You are right CCA has done some good, but they need to do better and stop backing these uncalled for limits on fish they have ZERO info about!
Like MG said: Keep pushing these non-factors on fish and in 10 years were fishing for 3 trout 1 red and 1 flounder but can’t figure out why the biggest trout you catch in big lake is 2lbs
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:36 PM
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You are right CCA has done some good, but they need to do better and stop backing these uncalled for limits on fish they have ZERO info about!
Like MG said: Keep pushing these non-factors on fish and in 10 years were fishing for 3 trout 1 red and 1 flounder but can’t figure out why the biggest trout you catch in big lake is 2lbs
Then speak up in a public venue (read meeting) with them and shame them by stating exactly this!

As crazy as this might sound W... your not asking them to do anything unreasonable. And in politics the only things that matter are money and public opinion.

So unless your name is William Gates Jr., and you got all the cheese..... we might want to make some public waves eh.....
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:39 PM
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Then speak up in a public venue (read meeting) with them and shame them by stating exactly this!

As crazy as this might sound W... your not asking them to do anything unreasonable. And in politics the only things that matter are money and public opinion.

So unless your name is William Gates Jr., and you got all the cheese..... we might want to make some public waves eh.....

If I did not have to work I would love to go to a meeting
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:57 PM
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You are right CCA has done some good, but they need to do better and stop backing these uncalled for limits on fish they have ZERO info about!
Like MG said: Keep pushing these non-factors on fish and in 10 years were fishing for 3 trout 1 red and 1 flounder but can’t figure out why the biggest trout you catch in big lake is 2lbs

False, there is info and you have seen it you have even posted it here, and once again you are blaming CCA for the Big Lake limit reduction, which is again FALSE


and 'you're' love for MG is astonishing. Anything he says is the gospel to you





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Old 08-07-2013, 04:01 PM
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False, there is info and you have seen it you have even posted it here, and once again you are blaming CCA for the Big Lake limit reduction, which is again FALSE


and 'you're' love for MG is astonishing. Anything he says is the gospel to you





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Show me facts where CCA was not involed in 15trout limit and where we needed a 15 trout limt.

Getting popcorn out
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Old 08-07-2013, 04:07 PM
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Show me facts where CCA was not involed in 15trout limit and where we needed a 15 trout limt.

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You can't prove a negative there "W", howabout show me where they were, should be very easy. And I am talking CCA the organization as a 'hole', not Wil Drost or anyone else. I need an actual press statement or article, get to googling
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Old 08-07-2013, 04:10 PM
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You can't prove a negative there "W", howabout show me where they were, should be very easy. And I am talking CCA the organization as a 'hole', not Wil Drost or anyone else. I need an actual press statement or article, get to googling

Henery FREAKEN Mouton

Big Lake Trout Limits

As a member of the LDWF Commission, let me tell you where this Reduction of Trout Limits on Big Lake got started. Last Spring I recived several phone calls and emails from Big Lake Fishermen asking me to meet with them as they wanted to talk about Reducing the Limit on Big Lake from 25 Trout to 10 Trout. I had probably 10 meetings, many, many phone calls, many, many emails with these fishermen and Guides all wanting this Reduction. They contacted CCA and CCA ran a Poll of its membership that fish the Big Lake Area, over 70% Responded that they DID want to see a REDUCTION in the Limit of fish. 95% of the Guides that operate on Big Lake want to see a Reduciton in the Limit. This issue was brought forward by me, NOT Fred Miller, NOT CCA. CCA supports it becasue their members in that area support it. I have had many phone calls from fishermen that fish S E LA asking me to reduce the Limits Statewide that that is NOT a topic of dicusssion now. These are the FACTS!!!

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and 'you're' love for MG is astonishing. Anything he says is the gospel to you
Oh, W and I have had some pretty good disagreements in the past on management issues. I think we agree most of the time because we are both data driven. W favors data he has personally observed, while I prefer the published type that results from careful application of the scientific method. But when you're on the water as much as W, your personal observations will usually agree with more careful, systematic scientific data collection.

In other words, W is usually right, except when we disagree ...

We definitely disagree about gafftops and drum ...

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Old 08-07-2013, 04:21 PM
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Oh, W and I have had some pretty good disagreements in the past on management issues. I think we agree most of the time because we are both data driven. W favors data he has personally observed, while I prefer the published type that results from careful application of the scientific method. But when you're on the water as much as W, your personal observations will usually agree with more careful, systematic scientific data collection.

In other words, W is usually right, except when we disagree ...

We definitely disagree about gafftops and drum ...

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