Bl rant

[mr crab]

http://www.swd.usace.army.mil/Portal...rway,%20TX.pdf


FIdna dredge somemore over here

[Duck Butter]

I posted this in another thread, and the thread died, but this was over 50 years ago.

http://www.mvn.usace.army.mil/Portal...lcasieuSWB.pdf


The History
In 1946, Congress authorized the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]construct a deep-draft channel in the Calcasieu River from the Gulf of[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]Mexico to Lake Charles. Millions of cubic yards of material were dredged [/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]from the river so that the waterway would be deep enough to handle[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]ocean-going vessels. Local interests believed a deep-draft channel would[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]significantly improve and increase navigation in this area. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]Those local visionaries were right. Since the channel was completed in[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]1953, the Port of Lake Charles has become one of the busiest ports in the[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]nation. In 1994, the city became America’s 12th largest port. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1 The Problem[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1[/While the deeper channel brought increased shipping and greater[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]prosperity to the area, it also allowed saltwater from the Gulf to migrate[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]further inland. The intruding saltwater threatened the upper Calcasieu[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]River, which provides water for irrigating the region’s rice fields. The[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]saltwater, which kills many types of vegetation, began to destroy some of[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]the sensitive wetlands of the Calcasieu River Basin. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]The Solution[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]]To solve the saltwater intrusion problem, in 1962 Congress modified [/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]the existing authorization for the Calcasieu River project to include [/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]construction of a dam upstream of Lake Charles. The structure, commonly[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]referred to as the Calcasieu River Saltwater Barrier, was designed to block[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]the saltwater from traveling north, yet not hinder critical commercial[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]navigation on the river[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=1][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]

[mr crab]

http://navigationdistrict.org/news/t...ederal-funding

TX got some stroke when it comes to garnering funds. That's a lot of freaking money. LA needs to get on the same tit and get some rock money. I stood on the new rocks in the Sabine channel for 2 hours last night and slung trout till dark. There is big money out there, ya'lls politicians just need to get it

[mr crab]

http://www.kplctv.com/story/24917780...dredging-funds

[mr crab]

a quote from the kplc story would be who I would start the letter writing campaign to tr to get some rock money.

A group representing the Calcasieu Ship Channel's interests went to Washington, D.C., in February to present justification for the additional funding. The group included representatives of channel users—BG/Trunkline LNG, Citgo, Magnolia LNG, Cameron LNG—as well as the Lake Charles Pilots, the Port of Lake Charles and State Senator Dan "Blade" Morrish. They requested that $11 million be added to the previously budgeted $16.24 million to accomplish the needed dredging.

[mr crab]

I'm no hydrologist, but wouldn't rocking the channel slow down shoaling therefore increasing the time between dredging cycles? There has got to be a common sense angle of attack here to get some dam rocks on the channel and stop the erosion

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by mr crab

I'm no hydrologist, but wouldn't rocking the channel slow down shoaling therefore increasing the time between dredging cycles? There has got to be a common sense angle of attack here to get some dam rocks on the channel and stop the erosion

Yes it would.

That is why a good bit of the channel has been "rocked" in the last 10 years.

I believe the Corp of Engineers would like to rock all the channel, but getting the money is slowing the project.

[homerun]

If you were to rock channel. Would you just leave opening at old jetties?

West cove entrances also to be blocked off leaving just oyster bayou entrance??

[mr crab]

http://www.louisianaspeaks-parishpla...alcasieuSI.doc


A few more good places to ask for rock money!!!!!!

[Natural Light Kid]

That report is great. I cannot see how anyone can say to leave the weirs open 24/7/365 after reading it. I've heard people say to put things back "the way they were originally" and refer to when the weirs weren't in place. There's a lot more than removing the weirs to put the lake back to the way it was. Not that it could even be done, but you guides wouldn't like the lake at all if it were restored to its original shape. The fishing may suck, but that wouldn't mean that the estuary isn't healthy.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid

That report is great. I cannot see how anyone can say to leave the weirs open 24/7/365 after reading it. I've heard people say to put things back "the way they were originally" and refer to when the weirs weren't in place. There's a lot more than removing the weirs to put the lake back to the way it was. Not that it could even be done, but you guides wouldn't like the lake at all if it were restored to its original shape. The fishing may suck, but that wouldn't mean that the estuary isn't healthy.

It will never be restored to its original state. Too much money moves through that channel.

If it was restored to its historic state, it would not hold trout and reds anymore, except maybe to the extreme south. Everything north would be fresh to intermediate salinities, making it prime bass habitat.

But, that will never happen.

[mr crab]

From the links I posted above, it is obvious that the navigation of the channel is very important to some folks with very deep pockets, and there are politicians wiling to get involved on issues involving the channel.

[LadyFishKiller]

If we got organizied and brought all of our concerns and info to the right people and had a public backing we could get stuff done. I've never heard on the news were state legislators passed a bill or did something because of a thread on a forum. Looks like there are a ton of people all wanting the same thing here. So, let's get organized and have our concerns voiced to the right people.

[Ratdog]

Originally Posted by LadyFishKiller

If we got organizied and brought all of our concerns and info to the right people and had a public backing we could get stuff done. I've never heard on the news were state legislators passed a bill or did something because of a thread on a forum. Looks like there are a ton of people all wanting the same thing here. So, let's get organized and have our concerns voiced to the right people.

Who da right people?
Can a potition on line work?
Can we get right people to agree to a potition on line?
What is the most or greatest issue to potition first?

Can we all agree about one thing ?

Well just say I got questions. And I think there has to be a phone number I can call. Or a local place I can go.

I jus like fish and fishing and am tired of being checked to see if I might be braking some rule to make me pay. I just want to fish and not be botherd by regulations put in place to fund big gov.

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by Ratdog

I jus like fish and fishing and am tired of being checked to see if I might be braking some rule to make me pay. I just want to fish and not be botherd by regulations put in place to fund big gov.

What would you porpoise? Eliminate the WLF and limits? Regulations and enforcement are necessary, along with random stops in order to make sure everyone is following the rules.

I gladly accept people on my boat to check my catch, so long as they take off their boots. If we eliminated regs, enforcement, and random stops the. There would be no kore fish to enjoy because people would take take take...

[BuckingFastard]

Originally Posted by Goooh

What would you porpoise? Eliminate the WLF and limits? Regulations and enforcement are necessary, along with random stops in order to make sure everyone is following the rules.

I gladly accept people on my boat to check my catch, so long as they take off their boots. If we eliminated regs, enforcement, and random stops the. There would be no kore fish to enjoy because people would take take take...

i think you forgot about the 4th amendment.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by BuckingFastard

i think you forgot about the 4th amendment.

I'm glad someone caught that. If random stops (and searches) are necessary to protect the fisheries resources, what other areas of law enforcement also necessitates random stops (and searches) without a warrant or probable cause?

Drug enforcement? (Excuse me sir, since you have nothing to hide, you wouldn't mind a quick search of your vehicle and pockets, would you?)

Weapons enforcement? (Just a quick check of your home and gunsafe for any unregistered Class III weapons.)

Obamacare enforcement? (Just show us the documentation of your approved health care coverage and we'll be on our way.)

Tax law enforcement? (Just a quick inventory of all your possessions to ensure your lifestyle is consistent with your declared income.)

Child protection enforcement? (Just a quick interview and check of your children's backsides to be sure you are not spanking, er abusing, them.)

Porn enforcement? (Just a quick download of all your computer files to make sure there's no kiddie porn on your computer. Nothing to hide right?)

Environmental enforcement? (Just a quick check on your septic system and some chemical samples from your lawn to make sure there is no toxic runoff and that your use of pesticides conforms with federal law.)

DUI enforcement? (Just pee in the cup and allow us to take a hair sample to see if you've been driving under the influence of THC.)

["W"]

Originally Posted by Ratdog

Who da right people?
Can a potition on line work?
Can we get right people to agree to a potition on line?
What is the most or greatest issue to potition first?

Can we all agree about one thing ?

Well just say I got questions. And I think there has to be a phone number I can call. Or a local place I can go.

I jus like fish and fishing and am tired of being checked to see if I might be braking some rule to make me pay. I just want to fish and not be botherd by regulations put in place to fund big gov.

Not sure u serious ???



Dude I fish probably 10xs if not more than you and travel thousands of miles on the water a year and can tell you how many times I have been checked in my life by WL&F on 1 hand

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by "W"

Not sure u serious ???



Dude I fish probably 10xs if not more than you and travel thousands of miles on the water a year and can tell you how many times I have been checked in my life by WL&F on 1 hand

Yep. Well maybe the profile him.


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[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by "W"

Not sure u serious ???



Dude I fish probably 10xs if not more than you and travel thousands of miles on the water a year and can tell you how many times I have been checked in my life by WL&F on 1 hand

Depends on where u fishin. Anywhere from 210 to LNG u gettin checked. Sometimes more than once. Got checked 3 times one day by same gw.