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Old 01-21-2011, 09:33 AM
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Waltrip is catching all the females with good genes, when they are 12 to 14 inches.
So what's the difference if you catch them before they get big or after they get big???

Exactly right, if you catch a 14" female and keep it that fish will not produce ANY eggs in her lifetime. So she is removed from the 'gene pool'. This is yet another thing in favor of KEEPING the larger trout.

If you wanna compare it to deer hunting (which is silly, but for sihts and giggles). The big thing now is not antler restrictions - its shooting for age, shooting old deer, even the old ones that are not 'trophies'. They are actully selecting the oldest deer in the herd to shoot. And for the record, there is no shoot and release in the deer hunting world. Once that deer is 'selected' it is not coming back to reproduce.

So, keep the big trout if you want, let the little ones have a chance
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Waltrip is catching all the females with good genes, when they are 12 to 14 inches.
So what's the difference if you catch them before they get big or after they get big???


Where's the greenie button when ya need it!!!!!

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Old 01-21-2011, 09:28 AM
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i know most of you will not understand this next statement.

Please keep eating these big fish. they have more toxins in them through bio accumulation. so go for it
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:31 AM
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i know most of you will not understand this next statement.

Please keep eating these big fish. they have more toxins in them through bio accumulation. so go for it
Yak...would that be the accumulation of toxins through digestion over a long period of time???

I got good genetics...
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:33 AM
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Yak...would that be the accumulation of toxins through digestion over a long period of time???

I got good genetics...

yes,
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i know most of you will not understand this next statement.

Please keep eating these big fish. they have more toxins in them through bio accumulation. so go for it
Dude your fuggin weird mike the tiger....I bet u wear short shorts and tight shirts to??? I said they do inherit color u dumb****. Toxins?? Yellowfin Tuna are big I've ate off of several 100 plus lbs tuna and I'm doin fine with my toxins?? So wats the difference....and I like it how u can call me a winner and make fun cause ur so much better than me cause u got a LSU education..and u know everything about trout since u catch so many of them(NOT) in your kayak...get a life loser and don't put down on people if you don't expect to get some back...
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:13 AM
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Dude your fuggin weird mike the tiger....I bet u wear short shorts and tight shirts to??? I said they do inherit color u dumb****. Toxins?? Yellowfin Tuna are big I've ate off of several 100 plus lbs tuna and I'm doin fine with my toxins?? So wats the difference....and I like it how u can call me a winner and make fun cause ur so much better than me cause u got a LSU education..and u know everything about trout since u catch so many of them(NOT) in your kayak...get a life loser and don't put down on people if you don't expect to get some back...
Dude do you know who your talking too???? Son you better recognize
Yak em is LSU alumni....and has PHD and Masters in categories below
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And he is not even 25 years old yet!!!! Could be the Next Bill Gates!!!! You better. Respect him
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:29 AM
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Its more like an orgy, they just release eggs and the male fertilizes it (the nearest male, not the biggest baddest male). They don't make beds like a male bass and try and impress the female, Its wham bam thank you m'aam. If you guys want to release big trout that is great, I would do the same thing, because I know I can catch more smaller ones that I would rather eat. But to criticize someone else who keeps a PERFECTLY LEGAL fish is ridiculous.
All this talk makes me want to go tag some hogs........
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:38 AM
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if you think you can rape a resource for as long as you want with no effects

go look at the freshwater trout fisheries of the 1900's when you had pictures of guys with hundreds of fish a day and then go look at those areas now.

still no fish.
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:49 AM
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if you think you can rape a resource for as long as you want with no effects

go look at the freshwater trout fisheries of the 1900's when you had pictures of guys with hundreds of fish a day and then go look at those areas now.

still no fish.

there were no limits, we have limits now, and our fisheries biologists have been managing trout populations for years, they know what they are talking about.

Think of a crazy scenario like this:

Lets say that everyday of the year there are 1,000 people on Big Lake who catch there limit of trout. That means 15,000 trout per day come out of Big Lake. Multiply that 15,000 by 365 days a year and you get

5,025,000 trout. Thats 5 million trout per year

We also must ASSUME that Big Lake is shut off from the rest of the gulf meaning no trout can enter or leave the lake. Pretend here.

5 million trout! Lets then say the average number of eggs laid by ALL females, not big, little, medium sized, just the average pooled together is 50,000 eggs. It would only take 100 trout to make up for the 'raping' of the 5 million trout each year. BUT, this area constantly gets new trout from the gulf, and lets say 1/10th of those 50,000 eggs don't make it, then it would only take 1,000 trout to make up for last years loss. It is a self-sustaining fishery. I bet in some areas of the lake RIGHT NOW there are 1,000 trout stacked up.
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:47 AM
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I would love to see these pictures, for whatever reason I can't see them. I guess it is these stupid work filters.

I am with Southern151, i never catch a limit because I hate cleaning fish. I have no need for all that fish.

If everybody used a little common sense when enjoying the outdoors we would not need arbitrary rules like only 15 fish in big lake. Will Rogers said it best."You can't legislate inteliligence and common sense into people."
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:50 AM
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I would love to see these pictures, for whatever reason I can't see them. I guess it is these stupid work filters.

I am with Southern151, i never catch a limit because I hate cleaning fish. I have no need for all that fish.

If everybody used a little common sense when enjoying the outdoors we would not need arbitrary rules like only 15 fish in big lake. Will Rogers said it best."You can't legislate inteliligence and common sense into people."

I can clean 15 Trout faster than I can clean 5 Reds.
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I understand that you can. And it's your right to.

But why?
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Old 01-21-2011, 10:34 AM
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I understand that you can. And it's your right to.

But why?
I totally understand where you are coming from, I have an uncle that has a fixation on shooting bucks only. If 100 does are standing in a field and a spike walks out, he will shoot the spike EVERY time. I can't justify why, but i dang sure can't change his way of thinking either
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Right on..... You catch 1000 trout a day....1000 more come if from the gulf! Your smaller trout move the most!!! Young males travel the most and longest! In the trout program LSU did we have a 14inch male trout lap the lake a few times in 24 hours! He was ping at all the markers! You had trout that were released with tags and ping all the way out to the gulf and never returned! They named one of the trout I caught “REDEYE“ ....she traveled from Long point to wash out and spent all winter in turners! She never went anywhere out the lake! There was a 7lb trout will caught that was tagged and he left the lake for Gulf and never returned
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Old 01-21-2011, 10:17 AM
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Right on..... There was a 7lb trout will caught that was tagged and he left the lake for Gulf and never returned
Cause she died of old age while in the gulf.
Why let her die of old age when she could have been caught and eaten???
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Old 01-21-2011, 10:40 AM
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Cause she died of old age while in the gulf.
Why let her die of old age when she could have been caught and eaten???
Very true

So can we all agree to disagree and if you wanna keep big fish you can, and if you wanna catch and release them you can?
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Hey Southern151 if you want to catch a limit we can hook up and go out to the pickets and load up on 16-20 inch specks. And if you don't want to clean I'll take care of it, I got a big extended family and they can smell specks frying from miles away!
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