Theft at High School

[SULPHITE]

Originally Posted by Dink

Bob....you were right to equestrian the popcorn

dink keep horses out of your popcorn...it'll taste better...

[Dink]

Er, request

[Zachary Boy]

I worked at an oil refinery once which naturally had a no gun policy for the process workers that drove directly to their unit. We were allowed to check in our gun at the guard shack before our shift and check out after. My point is ,why can't they have something like a safety deposit box of sorts where they could leave their phone during school hours and get when they leave?

[yak'em-n-stack'em]

you signed a policy stating that cell phones arent allowed on campus.

does this make it right that they cant have them? no.
I think there is a time and a place, and it a student isnt using his/her phone or has it out then it shouldnt be a problem however, its still policy. she obviously wasnt hiding it well enough.

when i worked as a contract worker in the plants, if we were caught with a phone with a camera on it, we would be permanently kicked out of the plant and they could confiscate it.

so we either didnt bring our phones or left them in the glove box of the truck ON SILENT, until we were outside of the gate.

my school had the same policy when i was in HS, we would get them taken if caught.


if you are smart about it, or just plain dont use it during school you were fine.

coachlaw never said you needed to be lapped in the face, he simply stated that you may feel like it is a slap in the face.

[scott craft]

I'm curious as to how the school knew the kid had a phone? If it's just for emergencies it should have been out of sight in a backpack. If you know it's against the rules to have a cell phone and you're going to have one anyway keeping it hid is the thing to do.

[redalertlures]

yak you are right and apologies to coachlaw for the error I made.

I now get a letter from the Principal, delivered by the Chief of Police, basically stating that I am stirring up trouble and I need to desist.

YUP IM IN COMMUNIST CHINA NOW!!!

[SULPHITE]

YUP IM IN COMMUNIST CHINA NOW!!!

LOL! Pass da soy sauce!

Did she have the phone out during class or at a time when it is not allowed. If not then there is a valid arguement. Its when the black and white becomes grey is why we have awesome lawyers who sue the piss out of companies for bs and force companies overseas...just my .2

[redalertlures]

The reason the phone was out was because she had an eye infection and had requested to use the phone in the office and was turned away, this was during class time. She waited till lunch and went to the gym and got the phone out of her softball bag where it stays until practice daily. She then texted me that her eye was worse and she was in pain. The teacher simply took the phone out of her hand...thus I charged her with theft of personal property.

Those reading this take note...we all know our kids have phones. The last class(block) of the day is used for softball practice and I have been there a couple times for practice and have seen the coach tell the kids to get on their phones and text something to their friends/families about the days game or upcoming game. So to think that they dont know they have them is folly.

The principal has a problem with me now and is sending threatening letters via the town Chief of Police and will in no way back down.

Its now becoming very funny and stupid all at the same time.

I stated above that she will in no way allow anyone to take her phone again.

[MossLake]

Originally Posted by southern151

How did the teacher know she had it or how did it wind up in her hands?

Originally Posted by redalertlures

The reason the phone was out was because she had an eye infection and had requested to use the phone in the office and was turned away, this was during class time. She waited till lunch and went to the gym and got the phone out of her softball bag where it stays until practice daily. She then texted me that her eye was worse and she was in pain. The teacher simply took the phone out of her hand...thus I charged her with theft of personal property.

Those reading this take note...we all know our kids have phones. The last class(block) of the day is used for softball practice and I have been there a couple times for practice and have seen the coach tell the kids to get on their phones and text something to their friends/families about the days game or upcoming game. So to think that they dont know they have them is folly.

The principal has a problem with me now and is sending threatening letters via the town Chief of Police and will in no way back down.

Its now becoming very funny and stupid all at the same time.

I stated above that she will in no way allow anyone to take her phone again.

So, she was told she could not make a call from the office phone when she was injured???? Now that I would have a problem with. I can't see the school denying use of an office phone to call for assistance with an injury or any other problem.

[LaAngler]

Originally Posted by redalertlures

thus I charged her with theft of personal property.

in the saltycajun court system?

[redalertlures]

sulphite...if I had the money I would definitely sue this school and school board.

I have already talked to a lawyer that told me that due to the safety issue her civil rights are being abused and we would win in court...but what we would win would not cover attorneys fees so wat do you do?

Just sit back and take it and allow the principal to throw sand on it at the same time.

[tumbleweed]

So are you able to get the phone back? That is the part I could not figure out.

[redalertlures]

mosslake...that was my biggest complaint and spoke to the office about that and was told that the phone lines were being worked on at the time she went to the office. I dont think she was told that.

tumbleweed...the phone will be held for 14 days.

[MossLake]

I would bet that one of the office workers carry a cell phone with them that should have been offered to use. Or is it against policy for them also. Either way, I'm sure they have their's with them.

[Lake Chuck Duck]

Originally Posted by redalertlures

mosslake...that was my biggest complaint and spoke to the office about that and was told that the phone lines were being worked on at the time she went to the office. I dont think she was told that.

tumbleweed...the phone will be held for 14 days.

14 days?!?!? That is ridiculous. You are a parent and the person that pays the bill on that phone. Phones are too expensive these days to not be using them. As the parent you should be responsible for the punishment: they call you, you go pick up the phone and they tell you what happened, then you decide on the next course of action concerning your daughter. Teachers dont teach any lessons in class, so why teach a lesson about cell phones?

[SULPHITE]

now we have the grey area...the use of an office phone denied without an appropriate alternative

[simplepeddler]

Man I wished I could offer something constructive.
But, you are pissing in the wind, period. period, period.

My son was taken off in handcuffs at 13 because a little over achiever, cheeleader, athelete, school board members niece accused him of having a gun in his back pack.

So I don't think ANY child should be treated different, but they should ALL be treated with respect.

While I understand coaches points about parents, I can also give you a laundry list going back to "goals 2000" from 1996 that show the puclic schools act many times as they only want parents involved when it does not infringe on the sub culture I call "public school tenure"

The problems in on both fronts. I can tell you that MANY teachers would be on thier asses in the public sector for poor performance.

What we have effectively done is employ to the least common denominator and educate to the least common denominator.

So we are roaring into mediocrity at break neck speed on both sides.
Excellent teachers and excellent students are both watered down and brow beat to oblivian while the under acheiving, excuse making folks on both sides are made to feel
"Special"

I am sorry, everyone does not get a trophy.

At the end of the day, kids should be taught the ONE way to be successful instead of the 10,000 excuses not to be successful.

and it's stupid wide painted rules like this this that perpetuate to our young kids that all adults are morons.

[Garfish]

From all the info I've seen on here there seems to be an issue with common sense on the teacher's part. This situation was definitely one of those that can be considered an emergency, especially if she could not use a phone in the principal's office. Hey, I'm a teacher.
I know that my students have phones and I make it completely clear that there is a district policy and also My policy that if it is "used" or it is out during class, that I can confiscate it. The district makes them pay 15 dollar$ and it has to be a parent or legal guardian that has to pick it up on Thursdays only.
I know that in some cases they use them to cheat on tests, text their friends at school, play on Facebook, etc....I also know that there are many students that have them for safety reasons such as being in a single parent household, and a lot of my students have parents that work more than one job and they have to care for their younger siblings and/or take care of them after school. Also there have been cases where my immigrant students use a translator app on their phone to help them understand something better. I usually use restraint and pick my battles when it comes to this. Usually a stern warning is all that it takes from me. My baseball players have theirs after school at practice and I tell them all the time that it can be taken if they use them or have them out during school hours.

Sounds like a fight that will be hard to win because of the black and white of the rule itself. The situation there is really gray.

[booyagasha]

back in highschool, my friend would go use the bathrooom and use his cell phone to call the school's office. he would then tell them that I am not felling good, and needs to be checked out, in which they would agree.(This is the tricky part but we never got caught somehow) He would then tell them that I have a car, and will be leaving campus driving my own car.) somehow they let...and when i get out to the car, i call the office, and repeat the process...


BUT cell phones are a great tool also, because it's a learning tool(if a smartphone) imagine if you had GOOGLE in your pocket when you was in highs school ....or how about when something like COLUMBINE OR VA TECH happens, tell me cell phones didn't help in ANY school shooting.!!!

[joshdomingue]

I really don't understand the 14 day thing ...... what is the purpose of that???