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Old 10-08-2011, 02:27 PM
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I know one Oyster fisherman that had 1 license when it was tongs only.
He now has 5 boats with 5 licenses after dredging was allowed.
Dredging gets a quick limit. Tonging in the winter time is not near as easy.
I will admit that this is a problem and that is one issue that I was actually "for" with the permits. I think that every commercial fisherman should have the same opportunity to fish our lake just like anyone has the right to recreationally fish it. The permits chose WHO was able to fish and nothing was guaranteed from year to year. I think every fisherman with historical trip landings should receive a permit. Alot of oyster fishermen are ONLY fishermen. That's all they know and for some it's too late to attempt to get out into the job market with their lack of experience and/or education. I believe permitting, with revisions, could work by limiting each fisherman to only 1 boat, 1 load, 1 day. The commission can set the sack limit as necessary to accommodate the number of oysters being harvested compared to the amount determined available by LDWF. This would give everyone a chance and a choice.

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Old 10-08-2011, 06:50 PM
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I will admit that this is a problem and that is one issue that I was actually "for" with the permits. I think that every commercial fisherman should have the same opportunity to fish our lake just like anyone has the right to recreationally fish it. The permits chose WHO was able to fish and nothing was guaranteed from year to year. I think every fisherman with historical trip landings should receive a permit. Alot of oyster fishermen are ONLY fishermen. That's all they know and for some it's too late to attempt to get out into the job market with their lack of experience and/or education. I believe permitting, with revisions, could work by limiting each fisherman to only 1 boat, 1 load, 1 day. The commission can set the sack limit as necessary to accommodate the number of oysters being harvested compared to the amount determined available by LDWF. This would give everyone a chance and a choice.
i have to admit i am one of the people with multiple boats and i am part of the cause but i do agree with the one person one boat one limit i did catch 2 loads legally and i culled them right i also agree with the commission setting the limit on how the oysters are holding up i DID NOT get a permit luckily i am young enough to get other work
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:15 PM
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I know one Oyster fisherman that had 1 license when it was tongs only.
He now has 5 boats with 5 licenses after dredging was allowed.
Dredging gets a quick limit. Tonging in the winter time is not near as easy.
dredging does not exactly make a quick limit what really decides the time on how it takes to get youre load is if u cull them right that might be y he has that many boats he might not cull his
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:49 PM
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800-442-2511 LDWF
This thread started with division, us against them winner take all. I have come to believe through each post that we may not be that far apart in our ideas about what is best for the lake.
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:21 PM
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800-442-2511 LDWF
This thread started with division, us against them winner take all. I have come to believe through each post that we may not be that far apart in our ideas about what is best for the lake.
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:58 PM
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I wish we could get more oyster fisherman on here and debate it out!
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:08 PM
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I wish we could get more oyster fisherman on here and debate it out!
thank you for wanting to hear our side of the story
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:14 PM
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Well here is what I can say' You claim your losing your jobs. But what happens when and it will happen soon because WL&F already said it..they close oysters down for 10 years to let reefs repair???

Also Our oyster beds are natural and part of our estuary and help keep our estuary healthy

You can not keep raping these reefs.
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Old 10-08-2011, 10:20 PM
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Well here is what I can say' You claim your losing your jobs. But what happens when and it will happen soon because WL&F already said it..they close oysters down for 10 years to let reefs repair???

Also Our oyster beds are natural and part of our estuary and help keep our estuary healthy

You can not keep raping these reefs.
There are people on both sides who are next to impossible to compromise with. All I can say is thank God u are not the one in ldwf making the decisions. If u were, we would have a communist lake.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:51 PM
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i was informed dont know how true it is but what i was told today is the congressman who pushed this permit system is asking the governor to veto the permit bill and drop the limit to 5,to 8 sacks a day and if the fish houses pay what the oysters are worth then the fishermen can make a living not anything extra but they will pay bills and keep food on the table
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Old 10-10-2011, 01:44 AM
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I heard Morrish say on KPLC that he called Jindal and asked him to veto the bill, but he had already signed it the day before.
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:06 AM
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I heard Morrish say on KPLC that he called Jindal and asked him to veto the bill, but he had already signed it the day before.
Talk about playing both sides of the fence!
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I heard Morrish say on KPLC that he called Jindal and asked him to veto the bill, but he had already signed it the day before.
How convenient. :shrug:

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Old 10-10-2011, 07:30 AM
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Ballz, why are they in such short supply with politicians??? It would have been just as easy to tell the media why the bill was needed instead of pandering to one group to look sympathetic to their cause.

Don't pizz on my leg and tell me it's raining!!!
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I had no idea that starting this thread would lead to such big discussion. I have really enjoyed hearing everyones views. Keep it up!
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Old 10-10-2011, 05:56 PM
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I just wonder with all the pressure on the oyster fisherman right now..If they will obey the laws and not outlaw
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some will and some wont..
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some will and some wont..
Just like life...law says dont rob or steal...some do and some dont.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:20 AM
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IF nothing changes...This will be the last year for a long time.....By the end of this Season WL&F will know there is nothing left to harvest and have to close the season down for a 7 year minimum if not 10years
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:49 PM
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IF nothing changes...This will be the last year for a long time.....By the end of this Season WL&F will know there is nothing left to harvest and have to close the season down for a 7 year minimum if not 10years
Last time they closed it due to dredges was from 1967 to 1975.
During that time, there were many caught dredging at night and
during bad weather, when they thought the LDWF was not looking.
That's how long it will take to get the reefs healthy enough to
harvest again for marketable Oysters.
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