Another Reason to Boycott S.T.A.R.: Tripletail regulations passed

["W"]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Evidence that the weirs are not being operated the way they were meant to.

If the weirs were operated properly, the fisheries population would not be negatively impacted. The weirs were supposed to open around new and full moon, and remain open for a period before and after the date of the full or new moon.

Sadly, that appears to not be the case.

Took the east bank up just now coming back in and every weir is closed shut


How are shrimp and bait fish suppose to supply the lake if you choke it to death!! If we get another summer with the life support shut off were going to be in a world of hurt

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by "W"

Took the east bank up just now coming back in and every weir is closed shut


How are shrimp and bait fish suppose to supply the lake if you choke it to death!! If we get another summer with the life support shut off were going to be in a world of hurt

Just heard the same thing. That is unreal. All the recent rains and strong north winds and they are closed. If they aren't open now, when are they ever going to be open?

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by "W"

Took the east bank up just now coming back in and every weir is closed shut


How are shrimp and bait fish suppose to supply the lake if you choke it to death!! If we get another summer with the life support shut off were going to be in a world of hurt

Did anyone call to find out why the weir is closed at Grand bayou or do you just like to get mad?

This closure is only temporary [2 1/2 days] due to expected strong north winds that would cause excessive drainage from the marsh due to very low water level in the lake.

It is scheduled to be opened on Friday.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Gerald

Did anyone call to find out why the weir is closed at Grand bayou or do you just like to get mad?

This closure is only temporary [2 1/2 days] due to expected strong north winds that would cause excessive drainage from the marsh due to very low water level in the lake.

It is scheduled to be opened on Friday.

Not the point

The rule is for them to be open on full and new moon


Last night was full moon and they closed then yesterday afternoon

[mr crab]

Who stands to benefit from the average joe only keeping 5 triples or 15 trout instead of 25? And why would he be willing to pay big money for it? I think this answer is the beginning of the solution.

[Reefman]

Originally Posted by mr crab

Who stands to benefit from the average joe only keeping 5 triples or 15 trout instead of 25? And why would he be willing to pay big money for it? I think this answer is the beginning of the solution.

Average Joe truly believes that he is doing his part for conservation by embracing the new limits. Giving money justifies the right for him to harvest fish/game. Look at DU and Delta...the more ya give the more you might be able to shoot!

[Natural Light Kid]

Aren't "experts" controlling the weirs?

["W"]

Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid

Aren't "experts" controlling the weirs?

High school kids

[Natural Light Kid]

Originally Posted by "W"

High school kids

I was an "expert" in high school lol.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid

Aren't "experts" controlling the weirs?

Don't know who has control now, but it shouldn't matter who it is. There is a plan that was written that isn't being followed. Simple as that.

[BuckingFastard]

that would let too much salt in and kill the mosquitoes

[KDM]

Smalls, Don't confuse them with facts!!!!! LOL

["W"]

Weirs nothing more than Lake Killer!!

Rita took em out for a reason!!

[MathGeek]

Preventing marsh destruction by limiting saltwater intrusion is a long term win for all stakeholders.

The challenge is doing it in a way that allows a high level of flow between the lake and marsh.

Right now, the flow between the lake and Gulf are too high. The high salinity levels and large tidal fluctuations in the lake are problematic if the coupling between the lake and marsh are higher (weirs open more).

The answer is reducing the flow and coupling between the lake and Gulf. One option is a saltwater barrier at the pass. I think a better option is lining each side of the channel with a solid rock barrier with only a few shallow cuts to allow passage of recreational boats. The system is too dynamic to have sharp demarcations between fresh and salt water. The ship channel can be the saltiest. The lake more brackish, and the marsh more on the fresh side.

Had the weirs been opened on Tue night, the extreme low tide would have allowed all the water to drain out and the following high tides would have pushed way too much salt back into the marsh. We need a plan that will allow the weirs to be opened 7-21 days each month. The present high level of coupling between the lake and the Gulf is much too high for that.

[marshrunner757]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Preventing marsh destruction by limiting saltwater intrusion is a long term win for all stakeholders.

The challenge is doing it in a way that allows a high level of flow between the lake and marsh.

Right now, the flow between the lake and Gulf are too high. The high salinity levels and large tidal fluctuations in the lake are problematic if the coupling between the lake and marsh are higher (weirs open more).

The answer is reducing the flow and coupling between the lake and Gulf. One option is a saltwater barrier at the pass. I think a better option is lining each side of the channel with a solid rock barrier with only a few shallow cuts to allow passage of recreational boats. The system is too dynamic to have sharp demarcations between fresh and salt water. The ship channel can be the saltiest. The lake more brackish, and the marsh more on the fresh side.

Had the weirs been opened on Tue night, the extreme low tide would have allowed all the water to drain out and the following high tides would have pushed way too much salt back into the marsh. We need a plan that will allow the weirs to be opened 7-21 days each month. The present high level of coupling between the lake and the Gulf is much too high for that.

I think this says it all. Had they protected/rebuilt the levees along the ship channel instead of building weirs, it would have been more beneficial.

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[Goooh]

We need something like the fish ladders they use on dams to keep the salmon migration flowing.

Water is controlled, bait flows back and forth.

[meaux fishing]

Look at the land loss in the grand isle and Leeville area. That is the purpose of the weirs, to stop that from happening around big lake, due to the large influx of saltwater that the ship channel brings.

[MathGeek]

Basic Principles for Fisheries Management in Louisiana

Sportsmen's liberties in pursuing and harvesting fish and game should not be further restricted unless there is sound and compelling scientific data demonstrating a true conservation need. Regulations should not be based on irrational fear that the resource might not remain for future generations; they should be based on sound scientific data showing the resource cannot be sustained for future generations under current management practices.

Sustainable harvests and use of the resources should always be allowed, and the burden of proof for those proposing new regulations should be on those proposing to impose criminal penalties for liberties which have been previously enjoyed. I see no wisdom in adopting restrictive regulations copying the example of neighboring states. Louisiana waters are generally less pressured and allow a more bountiful harvest than neighboring Gulf states. Whenever possible, Louisiana would do well to support the tourism industry and justify the expense of non-resident hunting and fishing licenses by maintaining more liberal harvest limits than other Gulf states. Our "Sportsman's Paradise" allows us to share our resources more liberally.

[MathGeek]

Some fellows from the site have set up a facebook page dedicated to the S.T.A.R. Boycott:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/712460725459033/

[keakar]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Some fellows from the site have set up a facebook page dedicated to the S.T.A.R. Boycott:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/712460725459033/

but its not public, you have to sign in to see it

someone created an account for me there that I did not want and I prefer not to sign in at facebook EVER, for my own reasons.