Boycott the S.T.A.R.: CCA Failed to protect Oysters in Big Lake

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by cgoods17

you think if you make a big enough stink you will still get ignored?

No, at some point I'd be asked to leave or arrested for trespassing, disorderly conduct, etc.

But they's still have my $60 to use against Louisiana anglers and to restore oyster reefs in Texas.

Notice CCA has largely chosen to disengage on public forums where there is a level playing field and they cannot exercise editorial control over opposing views.

LA Sportsman and Salty Cajun have a much larger audience than will be in attendance at their $60 a head fund raiser. They want your money, not your views.

[3FLa]

First, the Galaxy Tourney is real and has been in the works for over seven years. We have a ten year, five year, and three plan. Our three year business plans were alter greatly with BP Oil Spill.

Second, sorry, but I forgot to mention that guides will be allowed to fish. I also forgot to mention that if a tagged fish is caught while a "special needs" person is in your group, $5,000.00 will be added to your tagged value.

Third, for those who suggest we speak as one, please note that we are actually trying to obtain one voice and that is the very purpose of the Galaxy. We will do way with the CCA of Louisiana as it is now, because it has no respect from public officials in Washington and Baton Rouge. Thus, once we take away any incentive to fish the STAR, the CCA falls or in other words, it is eaten by a Galaxy. Then a new group can become a legitimate voice for ALL recreational fishermen. This group, whoever wishes to be invovld wil be invited, membership will be free and open, no executive sessions will be had, updates will be emailed on a daily basis, no private meetings will be conducted, any positions within the membership will be fully voted on by all members and not one salary will ever be paid to its members. Just image what a force that group could be in state and federal decisions effecting peoples recreational rights.

Finally, biggun. I have told you many times, I am not obligated to give you the names of anything, nor would I do so in that certain privileges would be violated. However, once the Galaxy is formed, everything will be open to public viewing in person, online or any other means available, and all prospective prize money will be placed in escrow for future payment of said prizes. Unlike CCA and its few fans, some people do not want to be recognized or named for what they do for the good of others. In fact, I had to go to great lengths just to be able to post what I posted earlier.

[keakar]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Why pay $60 a head to be ignored?

CCA has proven in the past to be insensitive to our concerns, to use member's money to lobby for more restrictive regulations, lobby for increased license fees, and fund expensive restoration projects in Texas.

Your logic is like passing a bill to see what's in it. CCA should prove their commitment to data driven conservation and proportional use of funds for projects in Louisiana before we give them more money.

1,000% agree

all these CCA boosters are flipping the same tired line "give us your money, then we can talk about your concerns" its all a con game and they run it very well because the average uninformed fisherman still thinks CCA is working FOR us instead of AGAINST us.

the word is getting out and that is why they have guys on the payroll who come to these forums to defend them with lies and false promises trying to keep people from learning the true facts about what the CCA is really doing.

CCA has its place in doing the things they are willing to do like reef building and planting grass but they need to just stop with all the lies about being on the side of fishermen because history has shown that is NOT the case.

if you want reefs built and further unwarranted restrictions on your ability to catch fish then support CCA, if not then actively work to convince anyone who isn't aware of it, just how harmful to fishermens rights continuing to support CCA can be.

so here it is CCA and its supporters, stop telling us you are on the side of fishermen while you are actively stripping away our rights without any science based reason to do so.

no one believes the fat man eating a box of doughnuts while he is telling you that he is on a diet and likewise no one believes your just as obvious lies CCA

["W"]

Originally Posted by cgoods17

well what was his response to your comments?

And why doesn't everybody who is against what the CCA is doing and has done and go to the banquet tomorrow night and start asking everybody there questions and make it a point to notify everybody else the concerns about the lake.?? wouldnt that be better than complaining for months about it on the internet?

Yes we ***** on here but don't think for one minute I don't voice my concerns to WL&F and CCA
I have many emails, letters and calls to everyone over the last 5 years

I will keep me and Davids conversation private but he knows what we want and we want actions two years ago fast!!

He also knows the value of us who are out here year around vs ones who are not.

I don't need to pay $60 to go to a banquet full of people who are there for one reason only Free Beer (only reason I ever went)

Now if they would let me speak I would be there in a heart beat but they don't want the public to know the real issues on hand

[Speckmeister]

"W"....I don't drink at these anymore.
But when I was your age, I must admit that I certainly did.
But I also made some good deals on fishing tackle etc., and I was also there to sit with friends.
Now in the old days there were speakers who were scientists, guides etc.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Speckmeister

"W"....I don't drink at these anymore.
But when I was your age, I must admit that I certainly did.
But I also made some good deals on fishing tackle etc., and I was also there to sit with friends.
Now in the old days there were speakers who were scientists, guides etc.

Those who want to sit with friends and trade gear should come to the Salty Cajun Tournament on 19 July at Calcasieu Point. Lots of good times, and the money is going to a great cause.

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by Speckmeister

"W"....I don't drink at these anymore.
But when I was your age, I must admit that I certainly did.
But I also made some good deals on fishing tackle etc., and I was also there to sit with friends.
Now in the old days there were speakers who were scientists, guides etc.

I think that they should still do this. Let a few biologists, guides, crabbers speak. They should also talk about their agenda, what is on it, and where the money is being spent.

[cgoods17]

Originally Posted by "W"

Yes we ***** on here but don't think for one minute I don't voice my concerns to WL&F and CCA
I have many emails, letters and calls to everyone over the last 5 years

I will keep me and Davids conversation private but he knows what we want and we want actions two years ago fast!!

He also knows the value of us who are out here year around vs ones who are not.

I don't need to pay $60 to go to a banquet full of people who are there for one reason only Free Beer (only reason I ever went)

Now if they would let me speak I would be there in a heart beat but they don't want the public to know the real issues on hand

well why dont you go grab the mic and start talking about issues on hand until someone kicks you out?

that will not only be great entertainment while i drink my beer, but also be very informative to the blind..

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by cgoods17

well why dont you go grab the mic and start talking about issues on hand until someone kicks you out?

that will not only be great entertainment while i drink my beer, but also be very informative to the blind..

I'm kinda w Cgoods here. I'm sure you would get kicked out though, but it might be worth your 60 bucks if you can inform 500 people on these issues.

[biggun]

3 Fla..

In every post I've asked a SIMPLE QUESTION???WHAT LITTLE GROUP DO U REPRESENT??? 275 K of PERSONAL Money?????

All U do is Hate on CCA.. Which Is fine.. That's is your right... Where are the Facts to BACK UP WHAT U SAY??? NO WHERE ON THIS SITE..

I'm saying Call for and organize a meeting with the Lake Chuck area elected officials.. Channel officials, Weir officials. CCA Officials, and Concerned SC Members as well as Guides..

Discuss the Concerns.. Work Together to DEVELOP Solution's...

[BuckingFastard]

Originally Posted by biggun

3 Fla..

In every post I've asked a SIMPLE QUESTION???WHAT LITTLE GROUP DO U REPRESENT??? 275 K of PERSONAL Money?????

All U do is Hate on CCA.. Which Is fine.. That's is your right... Where are the Facts to BACK UP WHAT U SAY??? NO WHERE ON THIS SITE..

I'm saying Call for and organize a meeting with the Lake Chuck area elected officials.. Channel officials, Weir officials. CCA Officials, and Concerned SC Members as well as Guides..

Discuss the Concerns.. Work Together to DEVELOP Solution's...

work together? theyre currently working together to take more money out of my pocket.

[Spunt Drag]

I'll join today 3FLA

Oh and I'm still waitin on my sticker

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag

I'll join today 3FLA

Oh and I'm still waitin on my sticker

I'm with 3FLA too.

Oh and lmao, I'm sure Raymond has been ordered by his CCA higher authorities to quit posting on this site. Now that people want stickers, we haven't heard from him, not even on a dog training thread.

[BassYakR]

IMO the organization needs to cease to exist and another take its place. The name Galaxy ehhh maybe not but thus far I like what this guy has to say. But ill wait till I see some action. Sounds very promising tho.

["W"]

Raymond like to hang with high society people, he enjoys what our Lake has to offer but no balls to stand up and defend it and make things happen... but sit tight

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by "W"

Raymond like to hang with high society people, he enjoys what our Lake has to offer but no balls to stand up and defend it and make things happen... but sit tight

never met the dude in my life, but I know he stands up and makes things happen as he is an active volunteer with CCA, thats what making things happen means (volunteering your time towards something you believe in, in this case its conservation). He also took the high road and chose to not continue, probably eating away at him not to respond to the attacks by posters on a message board

[Feesherman]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

never met the dude in my life, but I know he stands up and makes things happen as he is an active volunteer with CCA, thats what making things happen means (volunteering your time towards something you believe in, in this case its conservation). He also took the high road and chose to not continue, probably eating away at him not to respond to the attacks by posters on a message board

If restricting recreational fisherman's rights without one shred of scientific data is what you mean by making things happen then I wish he would just stop making "things" happen

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Feesherman

If restricting recreational fisherman's rights without one shred of scientific data is what you mean by making things happen then I wish he would just stop making "things" happen

This really is the fundamental issue with CCA.

There can be no compromise, no moving forward, no "working together" until they acknowledge past transgressions and make firm, binding, and accountable commitments that their conservation efforts will never again include pushing for restrictions that are not shown to be necessary in compelling scientific data.

Once they do this, they are welcome to pay me $60 and come to my meeting so we can begin working together.

[Ratdog]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

This really is the fundamental issue with CCA.

There can be no compromise, no moving forward, no "working together" until they acknowledge past transgressions and make firm, binding, and accountable commitments that their conservation efforts will never again include pushing for restrictions that are not shown to be necessary in compelling scientific data.

Once they do this, they are welcome to pay me $60 and come to my meeting so we can begin working together.

Hay I get what your saying .i just wonder if you are going to do something with my 60$ that benefits me like give me some crocks with calculators built in.

I need to say we're did the money go and what bin infect did I get for its use. And if all I get is a fing were I coment I'm pissed then I was jibed led on and miss represented. I guess my lawyer needs to collect court fees too.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Feesherman

If restricting recreational fisherman's rights without one shred of scientific data is what you mean by making things happen then I wish he would just stop making "things" happen

When did CCA become LDWF? I didn't realize that CCA had the power to change limits