Are you serious?

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

Do you all think gays chose to be gay, just woke up one morning and said hey I think I will be gay from now on?

no you silly person... they decided to be gay to insult god!..... how silly of you to think they just woke up and said... i feel like wearing bright socks and rainbow colored bow-ties from now on out...

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by Clampy

God. Probably. I don't know and no one does.
Religion was created by man and men are full of crap.

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that's pretty much it folks... it might not be pretty... it might not sound nice... but it is what it is.

If you believe... you can take exactly 10 sentences written on a stone as being the actual words of god..... (assuming you believe that it actually occurred as it was a "man" who wrote about it)

Everything else...EVERYTHING was subject to human intervention and manipulation.

[MathGeek]

24 The God who made the world and all things in it, he, being Lord of heaven and earth, doesn’t dwell in temples made with hands, 25 neither is he served by men’s hands, as though he needed anything, seeing he himself gives to all life and breath, and all things. 26 He made from one man every nation of men to dwell on all the surface of the earth, having determined appointed seasons, and the boundaries of their dwellings, 27 that they should seek the Lord, if perhaps they might reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. 28 ‘For in him we live, and move, and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also his offspring.’ 29 Being then the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold, or silver, or stone, engraved by art and design of man. 30 The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked. But now he commands that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because he has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has appointed; he has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead.”

32 Now when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked; but others said, “We want to hear you again concerning this.”

Acts 17:24-32 Emphasis added

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by mathgeek

24 the god who made the world and all things in it, he, being lord of heaven and earth, doesn’t dwell in temples made with hands, 25 neither is he served by men’s hands, as though he needed anything, seeing he himself gives to all life and breath, and all things. 26 he made from one man every nation of men to dwell on all the surface of the earth, having determined appointed seasons, and the boundaries of their dwellings, 27 that they should seek the lord, if perhaps they might reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. 28 ‘for in him we live, and move, and have our being.’ as some of your own poets have said, ‘for we are also his offspring.’ 29 being then the offspring of god, we ought not to think that the divine nature is like gold, or silver, or stone, engraved by art and design of man. 30 the times of ignorance therefore god overlooked. but now he commands that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because he has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has appointed; he has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead.”

32 now when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked; but others said, “we want to hear you again concerning this.”

acts 17:24-32 emphasis added

exactly.... He will judge them not you.

He might judge you for being so judgemental of his other creations though....

[Clampy]

Send this second human beings realize their own mortality we have asked ourselves the one great question what happens when I die where do I go.
The basic fear of this question is what religion is based off of
Then men realize if you gave humanity the answer to that question you will have good servants forever

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[Clampy]

Since the*

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[MathGeek]

4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter. 5 They called to Lot, and said to him, “Where are the men who came in to you this night? Bring them out to us, that we may have sex with them.”

6 Lot went out to them to the door, and shut the door after him. 7 He said, “Please, my brothers, don’t act so wickedly. 8 See now, I have two virgin daughters. Please let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them what seems good to you. Only don’t do anything to these men, because they have come under the shadow of my roof.”

9 They said, “Stand back!” Then they said, “This one fellow came in to live as a foreigner, and he appoints himself a judge."

Genesis 19:4-9

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter. 5 They called to Lot, and said to him, “Where are the men who came in to you this night? Bring them out to us, that we may have sex with them.”

6 Lot went out to them to the door, and shut the door after him. 7 He said, “Please, my brothers, don’t act so wickedly. 8 See now, I have two virgin daughters. Please let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them what seems good to you. Only don’t do anything to these men, because they have come under the shadow of my roof.”

9 They said, “Stand back!” Then they said, “This one fellow came in to live as a foreigner, and he appoints himself a judge."

Genesis 19:4-9

So because the men were "guests" of his house, Lot was unwilling to allow them to be raped, but his virgin daughters who lived in the house were fair game for raping...

Like i said, it was a discussion of HOMOSEXUAL RAPE.... and the proper treatment of guests.

I know one thing... If mass homosexual raping becomes the norm... I am going to invite myself as a guest in your house.. you will keep my butt safe from everyone... even at the cost of your daughters love and virginity.

[Matt G]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter. 5 They called to Lot, and said to him, “Where are the men who came in to you this night? Bring them out to us, that we may have sex with them.”

6 Lot went out to them to the door, and shut the door after him. 7 He said, “Please, my brothers, don’t act so wickedly. 8 See now, I have two virgin daughters. Please let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them what seems good to you. Only don’t do anything to these men, because they have come under the shadow of my roof.”

9 They said, “Stand back!” Then they said, “This one fellow came in to live as a foreigner, and he appoints himself a judge."

Genesis 19:4-9

So basically "Here rape my daughters...."? No wonder I've never read the Bible. You can keep your story book. I'm smart enough to live my life by what I think is right.

Get that stuff outta here.......

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by Matt G

So basically "Here rape my daughters...."? No wonder I've never read the Bible. You can keep your story book. I'm smart enough to live my life by what I think is right.

Get that stuff outta here.......

Nice

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[Reggoh]

Anyone else want to know how many "Sacks" he will get next year?

Sack = Tackling the QB behind the line of scrimmage... get your mind out of the gutter!!

[MathGeek]

1 This is now, beloved, the second letter that I have written to you; and in both of them I stir up your sincere mind by reminding you; 2 that you should remember the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and the commandments of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior: 3 knowing this first, that in the last days mockers will come, walking after their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of his coming? For, from the day that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.” 5 For this they willfully forget, that there were heavens from of old, and an earth formed out of water and amid water, by the word of God; 6 by which means the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished. 7 But the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

2 Peter 3:1-7 Emphasis added

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

1 This is now, beloved, the second letter that I have written to you; and in both of them I stir up your sincere mind by reminding you; 2 that you should remember the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and the commandments of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior: 3 knowing this first, that in the last days mockers will come, walking after their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of his coming? For, from the day that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.” 5 For this they willfully forget, that there were heavens from of old, and an earth formed out of water and amid water, by the word of God; 6 by which means the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished. 7 But the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

2 Peter 3:1-7 Emphasis added

There is no mockery in this thread unless it is from you yourself. You have chosen to say that you judge gay people as though it is your place to judge them. By the very scriptures you choose to quote, You yourself then stand to be judged as harshly if not harsher than they have been.

You refused to answer the questions posed about what should be done to lovers of unclean flesh. You also conveniently forgot to include what the bible says that you should think of your fellow man... (regardless of his / her shortcomings)

Do tell, what is god's view point on Hypocrisy? I am curious to hear if you actually believe that it is one of judge your fellow man from monday - saturday, repent every sunday, and the gates of heaven shall open for you.


MG, you may not believe me when i say this, but all in all i think your a fairly decent guy, who is trying to live as well as he can, and raise his children to be the best members of society that they can be. In interest of the fact that i really don't wish anything bad against you, I am going to share some very very relevant advice with you.

If you find yourself at the bottom of a steep hole, with sheer and un-climbable sides. With no one around to help you. The first thing you should do..... IS TO STOP DIGGING!

[MathGeek]

24 But after some days, Felix came with Drusilla, his wife, who was a Jewess, and sent for Paul, and heard him concerning the faith in Christ Jesus. 25 As he reasoned about righteousness, self-control, and the judgment to come, Felix was terrified, and answered, “Go your way for this time, and when it is convenient for me, I will summon you.”

Acts 24:24-25 Emphasis added

[Clampy]

What to do when losing a debate start quoting the bible

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[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Clampy

What to do when losing a debate start quoting the bible

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words you will never hear from MG:

"you were right"

"I was wrong"

"I threw back a legal black drum"

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

words you will never hear from MG:

"you were right"

"I was wrong"

"I threw back a legal black drum"

Ha ha ha

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[Clampy]

I expect a long post about how he was wrong once and admited it

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[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by Clampy

I expect a long post about how he was wrong once and admited it

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Close... but i think it will actually be a post as follows;

"I thought i was wrong once, but i was mistaken."

[Goooh]

Loving all that this thread has become.

MissAimsSmall should be here too