Thank You

[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Saving the fisheries is about the habitat, not about the stocks. THere are plenty of spotted seatrout, redfish, etc. There is zero evidence of overfishing, but there is lots of evidence of habitat degradation.

I agree...............I absolutely believe that you are hard pressed to hurt a fisherie with a rod and reel

["W"]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Saving the fisheries is about the habitat, not about the stocks. THere are plenty of spotted seatrout, redfish, etc. There is zero evidence of overfishing, but there is lots of evidence of habitat degradation.

You are 100% right

Maybe you should start a new CCA someone with brains


It don't matter if your limit is 100 per person or 5
You estuary is going to only hold what it's healthy enough to support



Well off to bed , I have to put 60 trout in the boat tomorrow !! " my limit included"

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by "W"

You are 100% right ducks are a whole diffrent ball game

But fish are not

I actually believe the whole state including big lake goes by the 25 fish possession law
Not 100% on that but I think I read that a person can have up to 2 daily possession limits (25per person) which means if true 50 cleaned trout per person instead of 30 state wide

I will have to recheck but I believe it's read like that

Not quite right. Possession limit is 30 in SWLA, even if caught in waters with a limit of 25.

[hewes]

leadership changed

[keakar]

Originally Posted by hewes

leadership changed

the leadership didn't change, the leaders are different because they are NOT the same and never have had ANYTHING to do with each other.

GCCA disbanded, shut down, closed the doors, called it quits because it was all volunteer and run by donations but after the gill net ban was put in place funding dried up and they disbanded. then CCA came along and saw they could make money while "claiming" to be working on behalf of sportsmen and they started telling people they just changed the name because it made people more willing to donate knowing they had done something already. this lie was started years ago and lives on today strong as ever and only the people who used to belong to GCCA know and remember the truth.

if you tell a lie long enough people believe its true and this is how this false idea that just because they used the same letters it must be the same organization but the Gulf Coast Conservation Association GCCA is in no way, manor, shape, or form, related to the Coastal Conservation Association CCA.

they only used the same letters to mislead people and lay false claim to the accomplishments of a completely different organization then CCA

CCA has no more claim to the gill net ban then me saying I personally got gill nets banned all on my own without any help from anyone or any organization. CCA's claim to banning gill nets is no more truthful then mine

["W"]

If CCA wants support from Lake Area

It 1st needs to

Ban oyster dredging

2nd
Revoke the triple tail size limit from 18inchs to none and keep 5 fish per person ( this would make 100% of the people happy )

If CCA does this I will donate $1000 every year to them

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by "W"

If CCA wants support from Lake Area

It 1st needs to

Ban oyster dredging

2nd
Revoke the triple tail size limit from 18inchs to none and keep 5 fish per person ( this would make 100% of the people happy )

If CCA does this I will donate $1000 every year to them

What happened to 25 or bust?

[T-TOP]

http://www.joincca.org/about

Read the history portion

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[keakar]

Originally Posted by T-TOP

http://www.joincca.org/about

Read the history portion

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yes they lie about it on their own website (its their website so who is going to stop them?) and they also regularly repeat this lie to reporters all the time so there are numerous stories falsely attributing CCA with being GCCA with a new name but lies don't make it true any more then if the website claims to have flying monkeys. but claiming to be the new GCCA helps them raise money and lets them lie and say "look we banned gill nets"

they get away with this lie because back in 1995 there wasn't the internet coverage there is today so if you google GCCA you cant even find any info on it because back then people weren't online 24/7 where everything was recorded and talked about instantly. heck you cant even find info on the gill net ban itself other then government copies of the actual law.

they were smart and they took advantage of a situation where they could steal claim to someone elses work and since GCCA was all volunteer and had disbanded there was no one around and no paperwork around to fight this false claim other then the GCCA members who knew better.

CCA never took over from GCCA because GCCA no longer existed when CCA was formed and no one from the GCCA organization was part of creating CCA, plain and simple as that.

[T-TOP]

Originally Posted by keakar

yes they lie about it on their own website (its their website so who is going to stop them?) and they also regularly repeat this lie to reporters all the time so there are numerous stories falsely attributing CCA with being GCCA with a new name but lies don't make it true any more then if the website claims to have flying monkeys. but claiming to be the new GCCA helps them raise money and lets them lie and say "look we banned gill nets"

they get away with this lie because back in 1995 there wasn't the internet coverage there is today so if you google GCCA you cant even find any info on it because back then people weren't online 24/7 where everything was recorded and talked about instantly. heck you cant even find info on the gill net ban itself other then government copies of the actual law.

they were smart and they took advantage of a situation where they could steal claim to someone elses work and since GCCA was all volunteer and had disbanded there was no one around and no paperwork around to fight this false claim other then the GCCA members who knew better.

CCA never took over from GCCA because GCCA no longer existed when CCA was formed and no one from the GCCA organization was part of creating CCA, plain and simple as that.

I think you are confused... I could be wrong, but probably not.



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[keakar]

Originally Posted by T-TOP

I think you are confused... I could be wrong, but probably not.



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well there is no point to call them out on it except for the pride factor of it and it would be a lot of money and trouble to go through for anyone to officially challenge CCA's claims so CCA can say whatever they want unchallenged. I like many people don't see it as a real issue but more of a telling sign of how low CCA stoops to get funding and mislead the public about who they are and what they do. in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter who got gill nets banned as long as it happened and that's about it but honest people don't steal credit for the work of others and THAT is the point that sticks in many peoples craw is that they claim credit for something they had no part in doing.

pottom line is, people who trust CCA will believe what they say because they want to believe it.

["W"]

Really what has CCA done on Big Lake ?? I last 10 or 20 years ?


Placed on rock levee around a island in turners that is washing away also

And one 500k donated reef "with bouys"




O and they supported a 15 trout limit with zero science
And triple tail Limt again with zero science


And only because they were getting destroyed by the public said they would take no part supporting a 10 trout limit with out new data ?? (W T F?)



But I have been doing my own work and have been in contact with other organizations who listen and have great ideas and want to help our lake

Hell Chenier Entergy has done more than the CCA on our lake in only few years than CCA in lifetime

[simplepeddler]

.........you know........Lake Maurepas was dead when the harvested the clams out for road beds..........when it stopped the lake recovered ..........took a few years......but it did

[KDM]

GCCA and CCA are the exact one in the same. Always has been. You boys keep smoking your crack!!!! Sit tight!!!!!!

["W"]

Originally Posted by KDM

GCCA and CCA are the exact one in the same. Always has been. You boys keep smoking your crack!!!! Sit tight!!!!!!

Here is some homework

Who founded the GCCA ?

And please show me where he was employed with the CCA

[Reefman]

GCCA stood for GULF Coast Conservation Assoc. When GCCA expanded to East and West coast states they dropped the GULF association to encompass all coastal states.......Same group, now just much larger.

[keakar]

Originally Posted by Reefman

GCCA stood for GULF Coast Conservation Assoc. When GCCA expanded to East and West coast states they dropped the GULF association to encompass all coastal states.......Same group, now just much larger.

GCCA never "expanded" the disbanded, closed the doors, turned the lights out, job done for the purpose it was created, finished.

then OTHER people decided thee was a lot more work that needed to be done but wanted to do it nation wide but since GCCA was disbanded and the members had no interest in championing causes nationally they weren't interested in this idea so this NEW group, completely separate from GCCA started CCA and that's where it began.

its really simple to prove if CCA was GCCA by just posting the pictures and notices showing GCCA is the new CCA, but there are no pictures or anything because THESE ARE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE OR THE SAME ORGANIZATION PERIOD.

believe the lies if you want, but you are only deceiving yourself.

["W"]

GCCA is not CCA

Bottom line

They founders of GCCA never worked under the name CCA

So it's not the same


They branched off the name GCCA like stated above

The prime example is like a company who goes bankrupt and a new group if owners come in and pick it up and old owners leave

They keep the CCA name


Founders never ever worked for CCA NEVER

["W"]

Here this is for you CCA sheep
Name the head guy who pushed for the ban of Gill Nets for the GCCA

I'll wait !!


Raymond ? KMD??

Com on

[Reefman]

Originally Posted by "W"

Here this is for you CCA sheep
Name the head guy who pushed for the ban of Gill Nets for the GCCA

I'll wait !!


Raymond ? KMD??

Com on

Walter Frondren from TX?