McNeese Ducks Unlimited

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

1. HIP is not where the harvest numbers come from

2. The questions from the HIP survey put people into categories of how many waterfowl they kill

3. Harvest numbers come from people that are selected from the above process and then send in wings from all the ducks they harvest that year. Biologists identify the ducks by the wings and then extrapolate harvest data based on that. There is a multiplier used (its the same year in and year out so there is less bias)

4. Aerial counts are not an exact count. They extrapolate numbers on the transects and there is a multiplier used (its the same year in and year out so there is less bias)

5. Reason why mulitpliers are used is because there is no way to know how many ducks/deer/squirrels/turkeys/rabbits are killed. You take a subset of hunters and extrapolate from there. Most people don't like telling the truth about how many things they kill and that is a reason our deer tagging system is a disaster

6. If anyone has a way of getting an exact count of fish/deer/turkeys/squirrel harvest, please please speak up

7. I like lamp

Look, Brick, there is no room for logic here. :*****:

lmao!

I should have been a little more clear with what I said before. Technically, you are right. The harvest estimates aren't directly related to the HIP numbers. But they still use those in the survey methodology to and the total harvest estimate is still based on the total hunters who complete a HIP. How else do you get to a 2.3 million duck harvest estimate, with a 30.6 ducks per hunter estimate, with only, what, 2000 hunters surveyed, if that?

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Look, Brick, there is no room for logic here. :*****:

lmao!

I should have been a little more clear with what I said before. Technically, you are right. The harvest estimates aren't directly related to the HIP numbers. But they still use those in the survey methodology to and the total harvest estimate is still based on the total hunters who complete a HIP. How else do you get to a 2.3 million duck harvest estimate, with a 30.6 ducks per hunter estimate, with only, what, 2000 hunters surveyed, if that?

That wasnt directed at you by the way but yes they do get the numbers from HIP participants.

I have never been asked to participate in the wing survey and only know of a couple people that have.

Aerial counts:
It would be very very expensive to fly every single body of water that holds ducks and to be able to get the best count, the surveys would have to be done simultaneously with multiple aircraft and thats just not feasible.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

That wasnt directed at you by the way but yes they do get the numbers from HIP participants.

I have never been asked to participate in the wing survey and only know of a couple people that have.

Can't recall knowing anyone either. Would be pretty cool, although they probably wouldn't get a whole lot of diversity from me. lmao! Do more wood duck smackin than anything.

[Cjleger337]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Can't recall knowing anyone either. Would be pretty cool, although they probably wouldn't get a whole lot of diversity from me. lmao! Do more wood duck smackin than anything.

Thats all I need in my life is woodduck and whistling ducks... best eating out there.