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Old 02-02-2016, 07:04 PM
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** I tried to put this in the political forum, but was unable to, so please don't move it there**


I may not be able to get a comprehensive answer to this question, being here in the south.

Why/what entices someone to be a Democrat ?

Im not being demeaning, sarcastic, un-respectful or any of that, I am in fact asking an honest want to know question, for I don't know. Why are 150,000,000 people democrats? what am I not understanding?

My wife and I were just talking about this last night "Why do people become democrats?" we both didn't have an answer


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Look at who they cater to - unions, trial lawyers, minorities, anyone on any type of gov. Assisstance including social security, women who are pro choice and young adults, that's gonna give you an overwhelming majority IMO
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:09 PM
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IMHO there are primarily three reasons people are democrats:

1. They are receiving benefits for all types of things and the perception is that republicans will take that away which is not true ( which is another topic all together). Free housing, daycare, education, food stamps, welfare, phones, healthcare. etc. etc. etc. while many are working for cash on the side. When you add it all up they are making more than most of us.

2. They believe "rich" people are evil and have gotten their wealth from robbing the "poor" people. They see the democrats as the party that will get those rich people and make them pay their fair share.

3. They think everyone in society should have the same things. If someone has more than someone else they should have to split it with them. They see democrats as the party that is trying to equalize society.

there are probably alot of other reasons (some being racial i'm sure) but these are the main ones
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:07 PM
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I'm a libertarian so I wonder why someone would be a republican or a democrat.
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Old 02-03-2016, 12:28 AM
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I'm a libertarian so I wonder why someone would be a republican or a democrat.
Please expand on this, being serious here.
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Old 02-03-2016, 08:57 AM
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Please expand on this, being serious here.
I'd like to say more people are libertarian than they would like to admit, but there's nothing wrong with admitting it. In fact, it's best that they did. Whenever I see someone chanting one side or the other, I sit and laugh because I know their candidate will never live up to what they preach to get elected.

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Old 02-03-2016, 11:15 PM
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Please expand on this, being serious here.
Without getting in to a long political philosophy discussion: I'm fiscally conservative. We support certain ideas like flat tax, cut entitlements, etc... We believe the gov't should be scaled back, not expanded. We are what many would call liberal on social issues but it's really about personal freedom and not limiting that. Also: constitution, constitution, constitution.
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Old 02-03-2016, 09:24 AM
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I'm a libertarian so I wonder why someone would be a republican or a democrat.
Discussion over.... we have a winner.... get the man his chicken dinner.
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:51 AM
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I'm a libertarian so I wonder why someone would be a republican or a democrat.
Yep. The Left Wing and the Right Wing are part of the same bird
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Old 02-04-2016, 08:01 AM
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Yep. The Left Wing and the Right Wing are part of the same bird
This cartoon pretty much sums it all up. A lot of posturing and arguing.... but no one ever deals with the actual problem.
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This cartoon pretty much sums it all up. A lot of posturing and arguing.... but no one ever deals with the actual problem.
Hey man, how you been? You still around Polk?
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:08 AM
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Hey man, how you been? You still around Polk?
Indeed. Been very busy have not had much time to do much more than lurk around here.

Hope all is well with you, and everyone else over here in salty land.

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Old 02-03-2016, 08:36 PM
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I read some but not all posts so sorry if I'm redundant. I think this is a great question and a complicated one at that. But I'll give simple reasons.... 1) anti-religion, 2) Lack of knowledge of true American history and understanding supply and demand, and capitalism, 3) they go thru life with child like mentality making decisions based on "feelings of fairness", 4) Are activist in one or more areas, drug legalization, environmental (pick your poison), abortion, sexual perversion (pick your poison). Basically much of it comes from #1 point. Then there are the freebies....too many to list and its already been done anyway. Sure is hard to run against santa claus
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:19 AM
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This is an interesting discussion.
It seems to me that the root is that the human race is transcending the process of natural selection. The concept of personal responsibility is eroding (not sure if the relationship is causal)......the idiocracy is inevitable.

......and then of course there's always entropy.
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:29 AM
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Thanks for the input, although Im still not able to wrap my head around the whole democratic why of thinking.

The whole mind set of you reap what you sow and enjoying the fruits of your labor I was raised and I have lived by and done fairly good in my life. I feel this is my reward for being a productive member of society. Im actually one of those people that gets really uncomfortable when I am given a gift.

I understand that there are lazy people out there, and that is usually discouraged with "hey get your ARS up and do something" but I guess I have really never been around FULL time life style "TAKERS". Don't get me wrong, I have been around destitute people that need help, Haiti, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras, But those people have not chosen that life, and indeed have absolutely zero opportunity of changing.

Im just not understanding why people in the greatest nation of the world with the most available to them to better their life ("poor" people in America have no clue what really being POOR is) have no ambition of making their life better and are 100% comfortable with relaying on someone else to provide for them.

I don't know...............
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Old 02-04-2016, 10:57 AM
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Thanks for the input, although Im still not able to wrap my head around the whole democratic why of thinking.

The whole mind set of you reap what you sow and enjoying the fruits of your labor I was raised and I have lived by and done fairly good in my life. I feel this is my reward for being a productive member of society. Im actually one of those people that gets really uncomfortable when I am given a gift.

I understand that there are lazy people out there, and that is usually discouraged with "hey get your ARS up and do something" but I guess I have really never been around FULL time life style "TAKERS". Don't get me wrong, I have been around destitute people that need help, Haiti, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras, But those people have not chosen that life, and indeed have absolutely zero opportunity of changing.

Im just not understanding why people in the greatest nation of the world with the most available to them to better their life ("poor" people in America have no clue what really being POOR is) have no ambition of making their life better and are 100% comfortable with relaying on someone else to provide for them.

I don't know...............
It has nothing to do with being a democrat or republican. I can show you areas of north Louisiana that describe everything you just wrote above. And they are staunch republicans.
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Old 02-04-2016, 11:12 AM
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It has nothing to do with being a democrat or republican. I can show you areas of north Louisiana that describe everything you just wrote above. And they are staunch republicans.
Republican's on the life time free lunch express? RINO?

I have a brother in-law that says hes a Rep, but yet stands for everything the Dems propose. Rinos are the lowest form of life..........
I think he tells people hes a Republican only to save face, but hes all about trying to swindle people as well the government.

Needless to say the RINO brother in law is not welcome at my home.
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Republican's on the life time free lunch express? RINO?

I have a brother in-law that says hes a Rep, but yet stands for everything the Dems propose. Rinos are the lowest form of life..........
I think he tells people hes a Republican only to save face, but hes all about trying to swindle people as well the government.

Needless to say the RINO brother in law is not welcome at my home.
Not all republicans are conservatives and not all democrats are liberals most republican politicians want to believe they are conservatives but a quick look at their voting history will tell you otherwise. They are all the same to me. They come in and tell you what you want to hear to get elected. And I really think some really want to change things but once they get in office they become complacent. I had big hopes for Bobby j in Louisiana. That didn't work out too well
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Old 02-04-2016, 01:51 PM
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Thanks for the input, although Im still not able to wrap my head around the whole democratic why of thinking.

The whole mind set of you reap what you sow and enjoying the fruits of your labor I was raised and I have lived by and done fairly good in my life. I feel this is my reward for being a productive member of society. Im actually one of those people that gets really uncomfortable when I am given a gift.

I understand that there are lazy people out there, and that is usually discouraged with "hey get your ARS up and do something" but I guess I have really never been around FULL time life style "TAKERS". Don't get me wrong, I have been around destitute people that need help, Haiti, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras, But those people have not chosen that life, and indeed have absolutely zero opportunity of changing.

Im just not understanding why people in the greatest nation of the world with the most available to them to better their life ("poor" people in America have no clue what really being POOR is) have no ambition of making their life better and are 100% comfortable with relaying on someone else to provide for them.

I don't know...............
There are some things in life that you shouldn't bother with, you'll drive yourself crazy trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. One of those things is trying to understand why idiots think like they do.
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Old 02-04-2016, 10:32 AM
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1. Poor parenting = kids without any basis for making real opinions thus "going with the flow". 2. Indoctrination. I'm a fairly new graduate who went to a small southern university and majored in wildlife and agriculture. I had many professors in all aspects of my schooling who were staunch liberals and fed at the government trough. They influenced their students, but most students are too stupid to know it.


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The tides and moods have shifted between parties I think.......I grew up with everyone around my family democrat......today they are republicans.

I think most people are socially liberal to a point......we want to help the under privilidged and those that simply cannot help themselves

Yet we are mostly finacially conservative......meaning we will only give money for so long.

the problem we all have is we are creating more takers than makers
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