Calcasieu Lake Destruction

["W"]

Originally Posted by BloodKnot

Can anyone describe or add a link to how or if the oysters are being reseeded or restocked? Has farming oysters in the big lake area ever been done? I know this practice is done on the east side of LA.

There is zero reseeding or restocking of oyster beds on big lake


The WLF and placed 3 areas in the lake to try and grow oyster beds.

1 in WC
1 South Bank
1 Com Pt

[swamp snorkler]

Sister Lake and Lake Mechant are farmed for oysters year round. No one has a problem catching specks there.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by swamp snorkler

Sister Lake and Lake Mechant are farmed for oysters year round. No one has a problem catching specks there.

Fact Check:

Sister Lake is closed this season, and the Lake Mechant season did not begin until Sept.

The following areas shall remain closed for the 2016/2017 oyster season:

? The area east of the Mississippi River and south of a line extending east from the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet at latitude 29 degrees 42 minutes 56.74 seconds N latitude, excluding the American Bay area listed above

? The Bay Gardene and Sister Lake Public Oyster Seed Reservations

The following opening dates were set for the upcoming oyster season (see maps above):


? Wednesday, September 7, 2016 - Bay Junop Public Oyster Seed Reservation, Lake Mechant Public Oyster Seed Grounds, and Vermilion/East and West Cote Blanche/Atchafalaya Bay Public Oyster Seed Grounds will open at one-half hour before sunrise. No harvest of oysters for market sales is allowed on any public oyster area prior to the second Monday in October. Therefore, any and all vessels harvesting on the open public oyster seed grounds between September 7, 2016 and October 9, 2016, both dates inclusive, shall be harvesting seed oysters for bedding purposes only and shall not have sacks or other containers typically used to hold oysters on board the harvest vessel.

You might check the regs before posting such ignorant statements.

See: http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/fishing...oyster-seasons

[swamp snorkler]

Originally Posted by swamp snorkler

Sister Lake and Lake Mechant are farmed for oysters year round. No one has a problem catching specks there.

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Fact Check:

Sister Lake is closed this season, and the Lake Mechant season did not begin until Sept.

The following areas shall remain closed for the 2016/2017 oyster season:

? The area east of the Mississippi River and south of a line extending east from the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet at latitude 29 degrees 42 minutes 56.74 seconds N latitude, excluding the American Bay area listed above

? The Bay Gardene and Sister Lake Public Oyster Seed Reservations

The following opening dates were set for the upcoming oyster season (see maps above):


? Wednesday, September 7, 2016 - Bay Junop Public Oyster Seed Reservation, Lake Mechant Public Oyster Seed Grounds, and Vermilion/East and West Cote Blanche/Atchafalaya Bay Public Oyster Seed Grounds will open at one-half hour before sunrise. No harvest of oysters for market sales is allowed on any public oyster area prior to the second Monday in October. Therefore, any and all vessels harvesting on the open public oyster seed grounds between September 7, 2016 and October 9, 2016, both dates inclusive, shall be harvesting seed oysters for bedding purposes only and shall not have sacks or other containers typically used to hold oysters on board the harvest vessel.

You might check the regs before posting such ignorant statements.

See: http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/fishing...oyster-seasons

I said Farmed, not harvested. There's a difference. Also, that's public beds. They have private leased beds that get worked over too.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by swamp snorkler

I said Farmed, not harvested. There's a difference. Also, that's public beds. They have private leased beds that get worked over too.

So you are arguing that the farming of a very small fraction of the area in two small bodies of water makes it scientifically sound to rape most of the area in Calcasieu Lake?

I didn't think anyone could possibly be that stupid.

[DaPointIsDaBomb]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

So you are arguing that the farming of a very small fraction of the area in two small bodies of water makes it scientifically sound to rape most of the area in Calcasieu Lake?

I didn't think anyone could possibly be that stupid.

No one has a problem catching fish at calcasieu either. It's faux outrage in order to push an agenda to ban oystering

[swamp snorkler]

Thats not what I said. I said "Sister Lake and Lake Mechant are farmed for oysters year round. No one has a problem catching specks there."

Where did I mention anything about Calcasieu Lake?

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by swamp snorkler

Thats not what I said. I said "Sister Lake and Lake Mechant are farmed for oysters year round. No one has a problem catching specks there."

Where did I mention anything about Calcasieu Lake?

If it is completely irrelevant to Calcasieu Lake, why did you say it at all in this thread?

That would be either more stupid, or perhaps an honest mistake.

"Gee Whiz, it's irrelevant, and I know it is irrelevant, but I'll say it anyway."

[Juciy]

Big Lake's problem also starts with the number of guides pounding the fishery...folks will not ever bring that up. I am not bashing the guides, but you have guys like "W" that says the trout numbers are low due to loss of oyster reefs. Then on the other hand "W" has threads on this site that say the big lake trout limit was reduced from 25 per day to 15 per day with no scientific backing, which maybe true. But you have to pick a side for the situation to shift. The guides really have the best chance to take a stand on any issue due to numbers and the economic support they bring to the region. I would pick a blended sustainable model, but if the current population had a choice and there was no lobby, those oyster folks are going to get run out of town.


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[DaPointIsDaBomb]

Originally Posted by Juciy

Big Lake's problem also starts with the number of guides pounding the fishery...folks will not ever bring that up. I am not bashing the guides, but you have guys like "W" that says the trout numbers are low due to loss of oyster reefs. Then on the other hand "W" has threads on this site that say the big lake trout limit was reduced from 25 per day to 15 per day with no scientific backing, which maybe true. But you have to pick a side for the situation to shift. The guides really have the best chance to take a stand on any issue due to numbers and the economic support they bring to the region. I would pick a blended sustainable model, but if the current population had a choice and there was no lobby, those oyster folks are going to get run out of town.


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the sports the guides take fishing probably go buy a sack of oysters also to take back with them. The guides are definitely helping out the local economy of the shrimpers buying bait shrimp and croakers

["W"]

Originally Posted by Juciy

Big Lake's problem also starts with the number of guides pounding the fishery...folks will not ever bring that up. I am not bashing the guides, but you have guys like "W" that says the trout numbers are low due to loss of oyster reefs. Then on the other hand "W" has threads on this site that say the big lake trout limit was reduced from 25 per day to 15 per day with no scientific backing, which maybe true. But you have to pick a side for the situation to shift. The guides really have the best chance to take a stand on any issue due to numbers and the economic support they bring to the region. I would pick a blended sustainable model, but if the current population had a choice and there was no lobby, those oyster folks are going to get run out of town.


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Hold up hoss...

You never heard me say the trout numbers are low on big lake ...

I have been for the 25 per person limit along

I said the big trout numbers are down and it for a few reason but none of which means over all stock is down...

Stock is actually over populated is biggest cause of lower overall size

[DaPointIsDaBomb]

Originally Posted by "W"

Hold up hoss...

You never heard me say the trout numbers are low on big lake ...

I have been for the 25 per person limit along

I said the big trout numbers are down and it for a few reason but none of which means over all stock is down...

Stock is actually over populated is biggest cause of lower overall size

How can trout be overpopulated. Thought y'all said the dredging was killing everything. Y'all need to make up your minds

[Feesherman]

Originally Posted by DaPointIsDaBomb

How can trout be overpopulated. Thought y'all said the dredging was killing everything. Y'all need to make up your minds

It's killing everything but the trout. Are you not paying attention?

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by DaPointIsDaBomb

How can trout be overpopulated. Thought y'all said the dredging was killing everything. Y'all need to make up your minds

Population is relative to carrying capacity. Reducing the quality of the habitat by destroying the oyster reefs reduces the carrying capacity.

[DaPointIsDaBomb]

Drinking a beer with my neighbor Tranh. He is an oysterman. Let him read this thread and he is shaking his head. Said most of you couldn't work a set of tongs for more than ten minutes. And some of you sound like the kind of people that put okra on their gumbo

[bjhooper82]

Guys, dapointisdabomb is a TROLL!!!!! He's just trolling(messing) with y'all. Stop feeding him!!

[rardoin]

Originally Posted by bjhooper82

Guys, dapointisdabomb is a TROLL!!!!! He's just trolling(messing) with y'all. Stop feeding him!!

Ding..Ding...Ding...Ding....We have a winner!

Tell him what he's won Bob!

I do find him entertaining however.

Mathgeek...never argue with an idiot as he will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience!

[jabert]

Originally Posted by rardoin

I do find him entertaining however.

lol he's my favorite... just don't mention crabbers from glencoe or things will get serious

[seachaser250]

Originally Posted by bjhooper82

Guys, dapointisdabomb is a TROLL!!!!! He's just trolling(messing) with y'all. Stop feeding him!!

He is the Michael Jordan of Trolls and he has a target rich environment in this place!

[Trout rivers]

Originally Posted by bjhooper82

Guys, dapointisdabomb is a TROLL!!!!! He's just trolling(messing) with y'all. Stop feeding him!!

What he said^^