Closure of the Grand Bayou Boat Bay

["W"]

Originally Posted by Ray

Won't hurt much. They will find another secret spot.

want hurt to much????? Do you realize if they cut off the marsh to lake this will not only destroy fishing in the lake but take a hug effect on Redfish also....

[Ray]

It will have some affect, but there is a lot of marsh on the other side of the lake too.
They have closed them off completely before. One year won't do a lot of damage.
They still leave the slat openings open to let water out. Just close the weir part,
to keep too much saltwater from coming in.
If the salinity gets too low, the marsh will clog up. They do not want that. That will
kill duck and alligator hunting back there.
I hunted behind the weirs for 25 years. They will lower the water to get grass growing
then keep it fresh till it takes off good. They will be monitoring salinity on a weekly
basis. I know one guy who got fired for pencil whipping the salinity reports cause he
was too lazy to go out and check. Big land owners like Miami also check to make sure
the guvment is doing their job.

[ckinchen]

From what I understand right now, the boat bay is not completly closed it is only closed enough so that boats cannot come in and out is that correct? Have any of you been by there? I plan to ride by there this weekend.

If it is in fact closed and they do have some water coming in and out how much will this hurt the shrimp migration that we have depended on for trout fishing?

[Super Spook]

I know this is great for the duck hunters back there for sure.

[Goose]

Originally Posted by Super Spook

I know this is great for the duck hunters back there for sure.

[Super Spook]

Originally Posted by Goose

Squeak will be pumped about this as well. I just sent him an email.

[Ray]

Originally Posted by Super Spook

I know this is great for the duck hunters back there for sure.

Too much water kills the duck hunting back there too.
We liked low water. Attracted more ducks.
But more vegetation attracts more ducks too.
If someone is on the ball, they will do the right thing.
High water will override any decisions on salinity and fish.
The drainage board in Cameron and Creole own the weirs.
Too much water and they will open them to get it out.
They won't let flooding take priority over fish and game.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by "W"

want hurt to much????? Do you realize if they cut off the marsh to lake this will not only destroy fishing in the lake but take a hug effect on Redfish also....

You are right, every single trout, redfish, flounder, sheephead, black drum, shrimp, pogie, and ladyfish that was in Lake Calcasieu is going to DIE They will not have ANYTHING to eat period There is always Sabine Lake or Texas if you wanna catch big trout

Sabine NWR is managed for waterfowl and alligators, that is what the weirs are there for to help manage the water that directly affects waterfowl and alligators. Big Lake will be fine, the weirs will be opened again

[Super Spook]

Originally Posted by Ray

Too much water kills the duck hunting back there too.
We liked low water. Attracted more ducks.
But more vegetation attracts more ducks too.
If someone is on the ball, they will do the right thing.
High water will override any decisions on salinity and fish.
The drainage board in Cameron and Creole own the weirs.
Too much water and they will open them to get it out.
They won't let flooding take priority over fish and game.

The fresh water needs to be held back. I know a bunch of people that hunt back there and the salinity this duck season was even higher than the Lake itself. This happen in several marshes this year due to the drought. Ducks became nonexistent with no food and much pressure. Good for the ducks is bad for the fish. I guess you can't keep everyone happy.

[Ray]

I have not hunted back there this season. But my friends who did, said it was a tough year. I hunted straight South of Lamberts Bayou. Just outside the refuge.
There are a lot of variables. But one year won't hurt the fishing.
They have done this before, and it didn't hurt.
There is a lot of marsh on the other side of the lake. And there are a lot of Reds still
behind the weirs.
The worst thing I have seen with the weirs closed is the killing of tons of Shrimp.
If they close them before the Shrimp leave, they will die once the water temps get
too cold. This has happened before. Thats why they leave the slat openings open.
They don't want to fight another law suit from the commercial fishing industry.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by "W"

want hurt to much????? Do you realize if they cut off the marsh to lake this will not only destroy fishing in the lake but take a hug effect on Redfish also....

Is this an engineering term?

Inquiring Minds

[Ray]

Waltrip is a loving person.
Feel the love.

[Smalls]

The Wiers are going to be opened from time to time to allow the shrimp to move in and out of the marsh. It amazes me how little some people know about salinity and its effect on the marsh. I happen to know for a fact that the salinities were over 25 ppt a few months back. With all the rain, it has probably dropped. But with the summer being projected as another dry one, Expect salinities to rise again. If that is allowed to continue, there won't be a marsh. So those Wiers have to be operated the way they were supposed to be originally, not the lack of operation that has existed for years. I understand people are going to be upset over the marsh access being cut off, but if they don't do that, you have no marsh.

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[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Smalls

The Wiers are going to be opened from time to time to allow the shrimp to move in and out of the marsh. It amazes me how little some people know about salinity and its effect on the marsh. I happen to know for a fact that the salinities were over 25 ppt a few months back. With all the rain, it has probably dropped. But with the summer being projected as another dry one, Expect salinities to rise again. If that is allowed to continue, there won't be a marsh. So those Wiers have to be operated the way they were supposed to be originally, not the lack of operation that has existed for years. I understand people are going to be upset over the marsh access being cut off, but if they don't do that, you have no marsh.

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Saltwater Intrusion is going to be a huge factor from now on unfortunately Vermilion Parish was hit hard, another drought year and more parishes will suffer. Most of the interest 'we' hold involves recreation (fishing and hunting), many peoples' entire livelihoods are going to be affected by this (as well as the fishing and hunting guides). Sea levels ARE rising, (not attributing this to Al Gore's global warming crap) it is just from glaciers melting as we come out of an ice age as we have many many times in the past. When sea levels rise, places that are at or below sea level become.....