What Would You Do?

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by saodma

Well as a vet that has been in combat i see no issue with them saying it. I also support your and his right to refuse to say it in spanish. This is a personal choice and there is no right or wrong answer.

Thank you for your service. No matter what our opinion we owe it to people like you. Thank you sir and God Bless you and your family. John

[Msucowpoke51]

I agree that there is no right or wrong answer IMO ... I think it's good for your son to take a stand on his beliefs as long as he's doing it for the right reasons, some kids would do it just for the attention and to look like a rebel (I don't at all think this is the case here) and that's not right, but it seems like he's doing it for the right reasons so good for him!!

[silver_snipe]

I too am a vet that supports the idea that our official language should be English (The official language not saying others can't be spoken). As long as the wording and meaning isn't changed and that the pledge is being spoken in Spanish as a learning tool I have no problem with it. If it is being taught other than a learning tool or paying culture homage I am against it. In the case of French (Creole French if you will) think of the men and women that have fought and died for this country that only spoke that language. Case in point is how Louisiana got to be Fighting Tigers (legend is it comes from the civil war). I don't find speaking our oaths in another language simply to understand it and learn is disrespectful or harms our heritage. I do think doing it for other reasons very well could. Ok I've run my mouth too much and its just my 2 cents. Basically there is no absolute right or wrong answer.

[pricecb]

Then 100% support.

[Jasonf]

Could another explanation of the situation be that the teacher thinks that the entire class could more easily learn the word associations in Spanish by using something that everyone knows by heart already rather than the teacher pushing a liberal anti white English agenda? I applaud your son for taking a stand bc he felt that it was wrong, but I can recall learning the pledge in French and it didn't degrade my patriotism or love for this country and I didn't think the teachers were trying to make the class into French beret wearing citizens.

[southLA]

We used to say it and prayers in French in French class. I don't see anything wrong in saying it in Spanish. Many of our ancestors were persecuted for speaking French, even though they were good blooded Americans. Just some food for thought.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by southLA

We used to say it and prayers in French in French class. I don't see anything wrong in saying it in Spanish. Many of our ancestors were persecuted for speaking French, even though they were good blooded Americans. Just some food for thought.

This is very true but I have no control over what happened in the past.
I have no problem with him learning spanish. He will likely need it so he can understand what the local landscapers are talking and laughing about when he's in a store. That pisses me off more than anything. I hate being in a store and theres a group of mexicans talking that garbage and laughing amungst themselves. I would love to know w t f is so funny to them.

[fishfighter]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

This is very true but I have no control over what happened in the past.
I have no problem with him learning spanish. He will likely need it so he can understand what the local landscapers are talking and laughing about when he's in a store. That pisses me off more than anything. I hate being in a store and theres a group of mexicans talking that garbage and laughing amungst themselves. I would love to know w t f is so funny to them.

you lost me right there duck, your son should stand up for what he believes in, but someones language shouldn't be what "pieces" you off, language barrier is the problem not the language, i agree they should learn to speak english also, but how do you know they don't know how to speak english if they are talking amongst each other, it bothers me that there are people that think we should cater to them and we need to learn how to speak their language to make their lives easier, i know if i were to travel to another country i would want to learn their ways and their language simply to make my life easier

[BassYakR]

Originally Posted by fishfighter

you lost me right there duck, your son should stand up for what he believes in, but someones language shouldn't be what "pieces" you off, language barrier is the problem not the language, i agree they should learn to speak english also, but how do you know they don't know how to speak english if they are talking amongst each other, it bothers me that there are people that think we should cater to them and we need to learn how to speak their language to make their lives easier, i know if i were to travel to another country i would want to learn their ways and their language simply to make my life easier

This is exactly how i feel!

[BuckingFastard]

agree with what he did

[trophytroutman]

I also agree with what he did.

[BassYakR]

agree 100percent

[Clampy]

Few things I learned about Nate since we became friends.

Loves kayaks

Above average fisherman

Hates him some Spanish !





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[BassYakR]

haha!

[mcjaredsandwich]

huh clampy?

[BassYakR]

I just dont like Illegals! not too picky

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by BassYakR

I just dont like Illegals! not too picky

I take issue with even the legal ones. Most of them anyway. In Alexandria there is a growing population of mexican immigrants. They do not come here and try to be part of American society. They come here and try to evolve their own little mexican society. They set up little stores to cater to themselves. You go in them stores and your azz better be able to speak and read spanish. Aint no bi-lingual stuff in there. They come here and expect us to bend to their ways.
I know this isnt all of them just a large number of them.

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by BassYakR

I just dont like Illegals! not too picky

Just messing with ya


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[dave]

The most important issue - you chose to support your teenagers decision to stand up for his belief. Good parenting is what you've done. As a father trying to raise a child with American values I applaud you.


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[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by dave

The most important issue - you chose to support your teenagers decision to stand up for his belief. Good parenting is what you've done. As a father trying to raise a child with American values I applaud you.


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Thanks dave. It would be different if he was a slacker and I thought he was just trying to dodge the assignment. He does really well in that class (school overall) so I know he is doing this purely on principle. For that he has my full support.