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![]() I believe there is a lot more Ship Traffic than usual; I have seen more ships since late last year than I have seen in several years combined. Generally the salinity stays the same in the bottom half of the ship channel, but those big ships churning up the bottom, mixing all of that fresh water with the salt water can’t be good on the fisheries either. Man fixes one problem and creates another; it is just the way it is! |
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We are leaving 40% more trout per day than 6 years ago Here is some good Facts for Trout SPECKLED TROUT FACTS by Jerald Horst (Revised June 2003) Besides being popular in many south Louisiana restaurants, it is targeted by more recreational fishermen than any other saltwater fish. In the last 10 years, recreational fishermen have harvested an average of 6,578,061 speckled trout from Louisiana waters annually – this is more than 93% of the combined recreational/commercial harvest. The best year for recreational landings was 2000 with a take of 9,615,942 specks and the poorest year was 1990, the year after the great freeze, with 2,679,167 landings.
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"Management priorities, as set by recreational leadership, will determine whether the fishery is managed for liberal limits and smaller fish or restrictive creel limits and larger fish."
I would have never guessed you were a liberal, W. |
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Liberal as in 25 per person and restrictive as in 15, not sure i understand, but that article was very informing, Thanks "W", the bottom line is if we band together we can force change
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Good article
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Not close....but I know 100% that the lake can handle a 25 per person trout limit...
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So in other words, what this article says about limits and fish size goes completely against what Waltrip says. As Kajun said, liberal limit = 25 fish and smaller based on the article. Restrictive = bigger fish. So answer me this, based on your source, if by your standard 15 fish has caused less big trout, then based on this article, the limit should reduce even more. maybe to 10?
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you would have to go to 5 ![]()
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The Colorado wildlife managers have had great success restoring the size and growth rates to lake trout in Blue Mesa Reservoir by removing the harvest limits on this species and by aggressive culling of smaller fish using gill nets. I've also seen a number of farm ponds in the midwest overpopulated with bluegill. You get tons of fish only a few inches long and none of them grow bigger than 6" long because there just isn't the food. Add ample predators (often bass and catfish) to keep the bluegill numbers down, and you get the big bluegill again. Humans can also effectively fill the predator role to prevent overpopulation of species with high fecundity in many ecosystems. Lower limits produce older fish. But older fish are only bigger fish if the food supply is sufficient to feed them all for high growth rates. |
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So you're assuming everyone always caught their limit?
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Com on Man
...really ????
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![]() Really! You could be wrong, der could be 60% more trout in our estuary. Or not! |
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So if 100 guides caught 3000 trout last year and each left behind 1200 That's 120,000 that was not culled out last year alone and add that up 3 years at a time Seeing the picture yet??? I limit out about 75% of the time with 30 -60...and if I catch 30 I could of caught 50... If I catch 45 I could of caught 75...if I catch 60 I could of.caught 100
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Using the same flawed comparison of deer - land has hugely different carrying capacities when it comes to supporting a healthy deer herd. I have seen both ends of the spectrum and hungry deer will eat dang near anything and pick the area clean - have even seen them eat magnolia leaves… But we're talking about an open environment with an abundance of bait and a super highway influencing movement. |
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Ok; all this debate and talk is great.
As W will tell u" I know zero/ nothing about trout. " But do yal actually think that WL&F or the state is gonna change a limit law based off of a private party study; that was not commissioned by WL&F or the state?? I'm not being negative; just realistic. I mean we vote for things and that don't change rules and reg.... Jut my .02 |
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They changed it once against wlf biologists.
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The outcome of bureaucratic and political processes is inherently unpredictable.
As a scientist, I think the role of science should be to inform public policy, but not to dictate it. As a citizen, I think the best interests of the people are best served if decisions are driven by the best available scientific data and that the burden of proof is always on the parties suggesting that governmental power be used to restrict liberty. |
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