McNeese Ducks Unlimited

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

They purchase the whole plot cuz the big wigs need a place to hunt while these face painters steady buying their gun calendars haha. As far as the projects in louisiana that were mentioned...Well that's almost comical.

What's so comical about them? Seriously, educate me, because apparently you know all about why DU is a farce. I want to know. I've yet to hear one compelling argument as to why they are a joke. Everything I've ever heard--heated ponds, baited fields, etc.--I've been able to disprove through my own research, independent of anything DU has said. There are simply more logical arguments for the same effects that these naysayers claim DU is responsible for causing.

If you really want to stop giving your money to causes that send money up north, you should probably stop buying hunting licenses, duck stamps, shells, or anything else associated with hunting, since taxes from those go to LDWF and USFWS, which in turn send money up north.

[Lake Chuck Duck]

Originally Posted by Smalls

They don't always buy the land. Easements are used in some cases. The land they do own has varying levels of management placed upon it. I've heard of some areas not being as intensively managed as others (water control being a primary tool). The main thing is the preservation of the breeding grounds.

As far as buying the whole vs only the pothole.....you can't just manage the potholes. If all of the land around is converted or farmed, the pothole is degraded as well. It's the same principle as protecting marshes and prairies along the gulf coast for mottled ducks--the mottled duck doesn't just need the marsh, it needs the prairie as well. Same for the ducks that use the prairie potholes.

The ALUS is a great program. NRCS has similar programs here that DU has backed. The Migratory Bird Habitat Initiative was one of those.

Delta is a great organization, but they do not put the emphasis on the entire flyway like DU does. Like you said, Delta's focus is the breeding grounds. What good does more ducks do if you have no wintering habitat? Is that not one of our biggest issues? We've lost over 90% of the prairie in Louisiana. We are coastal wetlands at alarming rates, something that no one can seem to erase and no one seems to have a quick answer to.

I love that Delta is so big on predator control, but again, that goes back to the habitat. If we weren't losing the potholes at such high rates, the predator densities would not be so high. When you concentrate the prey, it concentrates the predator. Rebuild the habitat, expand the habitat, and it reduces the pressure from predators.

What I don't understand is why it seems the two don't work together. Maybe they do. Both have a common goal.

And I'm not even going to touch the "trinkets" comments. If your basis for why DU is bad is because someone else is selling a product with their logo on it, then I've got nothing for you. Especially when Delta has a--albeit, limited--store on their website.

I wish they would work together since they both seem to attack different root issues. Delta leadership in LA has attended every meeting of the wildlife commission pleading that they split the 2015 (or 2016, not sure how that works) grant money 50/50 between Du and Dw. DU is steady politicing for 100%. They've gotten the the grant 100% every year except I believe once Delta got half.

[Top Dawg]

Google! Hahaha. Exactly why there's no point in arguing with yall. U still got a lil more cornbread to eat but them Cher lil eyes will open one day.

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[AubreyLaHaye458]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

Google! Hahaha. Exactly why there's no point in arguing with yall. U still got a lil more cornbread to eat but them Cher lil eyes will open one day.

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Then do us all a favor, almighty one! Open our lil eyes! Show me! Say something, anything that proves you have any kind of ACTUAL knowledge on the subject!! Please oh wise one!


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[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458

Then do us all a favor, almighty one! Open our lil eyes! Show me! Say something, anything that proves you have any kind of ACTUAL knowledge on the subject!! Please oh wise one!


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Do a search. We have discussed this plenty of times. There's always a few sunshine pumpers. What's real funny is when u see ppl heading to hunt some du projects in canada and then they pimpin the local banquets. Hehe.

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[AubreyLaHaye458]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

Do a search. We have discussed this plenty of times. There's always a few sunshine pumpers. What's real funny is when u see ppl heading to hunt some du projects in canada and then they pimpin the local banquets. Hehe.

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My search results:

Dewey Mills WMA, Sherburne WMA, Point Aux Chenes WMA, Lacassine NWR, Catahoula Lake. All La DU projects.

Ain't many fancy DU big wigs hunting these places! This is the public land where the regular folks hunt.

Not sure why you've got such a hard on for Canada. Anybody would be crazy to turn down a hunting trip in Canada. The freakin birds spend most of the year there! There will always be birds in Canada.



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[Outdoorsman97]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

Google! Hahaha. Exactly why there's no point in arguing with yall. U still got a lil more cornbread to eat but them Cher lil eyes will open one day.

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I hope you like duck hunting because it's people like you that will end conservation for ducks because you say crap about an organization trying to conserve wetlands for hunters.

[Top Dawg]

Just enough smoke n mirrors to keep ppl donating. Great for marketing. Gotta give it to em.

[AubreyLaHaye458]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

Just enough smoke n mirrors to keep ppl donating. Great for marketing. Gotta give it to em.

Once again, almighty, all knowing Top Dawg. What do you propose we do? Get rid of all conservation organizations together? Whatever happens, happens? I mean, you obviously know better than everyone else here. Do we also get rid of GWs? No more limits? What do we do?!?!


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[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458

Once again, almighty, all knowing Top Dawg. What do you propose we do? Get rid of all conservation organizations together? Whatever happens, happens? I mean, you obviously know better than everyone else here. Do we also get rid of GWs? No more limits? What do we do?!?!


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If it makes u feel warm and fuzzy inside I suggest u keep givin ur money to the scheme. I'ma use mine to buy shells and plane tickets up north.

[AubreyLaHaye458]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

If it makes u feel warm and fuzzy inside I suggest u keep givin ur money to the scheme. I'ma use mine to buy shells and plane tickets up north.

You seem to have it all figured out. Here I am, asking you. Explain yourself man. Not a real complicated thing I'm asking you to do. If DU is as bad as you say it is what's the alternative?


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[Wrh]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

Just enough smoke n mirrors to keep ppl donating. Great for marketing. Gotta give it to em.

Your ignorance is frustrating. If you truly think its all "smoke n mirror" then that's ashame. There are many people who are trying to conserve wetlands, and this group you're coming after is a college group. It's young men and woman who are trying to make a difference and keep duck hunting around so the next generations can enjoy it the same way we do. It's people like you, who do nothing and bad mouth anyone who tries to do something, who will ruin duck hunting for everyone.

[Top Dawg]

That's a good question. Maybe instead of pimpin du someone as concerned as u could start an organization worth sending my money to. But I'm not gonna donate to enhance someone's private marsh hunting or buy someone's ticket to canada. I'll use my money to send myself there. When u start ur new organization holla I'll check it out.

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[Feesherman]

Even better, chuck, ask em how many ducks they have produced. U won't get an answer.

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[Smalls]

I guess you guys pissed about DU "taking our money and buying land up north" will be real pissed to know that LDWF takes tax dollars and sends them up north to Canada as well. Been doing it for over 50 years. So does every state.

Got into a big conversation on this last week. Its funny really. To each his own. I feel comfortable with where my money goes. No one has ever shown me evidence to the contrary, while I've seen plenty of where they have done work on public land down here. Everything can't be done on public land, as nice as that would be. And everything can't be done down here when you have to protect the breeding grounds. No breeding grounds, no ducks. I guess those farmers will just be nice and leave those areas alone out of the goodness of their hearts.

*****ing about money going to Canada is a new one for me though. My personal favorite has been the spreading of corn and flooding of every field up north to keep the ducks from coming down. Nevermind that agricultural production increased up north, particularly rice farming, and this was mostly because of the decrease we had down here, leaving a gap in the market.

But yeah, DU did all of that.

I'm a Delta supporter too, but if anyone believes Delta does anything in Louisiana with their money, well, don't know what to tell you. Delta is a research organization that puts money into predator management and probably not near as much into land as DU does. If any at all, and I've never seen a delta project in Louisiana.

The funny thing is, a lot of the guys that will bash DU for not helping down here are the same ones flying the CCA banner. Know quite a few of those. My FIL is one. Makes Christmas interesting.

[wetfeathers00]

[QUOTE=Outdoorsman97;777056]McNeese Ducks Unlimited is having their first sportsman night out on November 3rd at 6pm at Our lady Queen of Heaven life Center. There will be Jambalaya, beer, Bird Dog whiskey, and Bayou Rum. There will also be raffles and an auction.

Tickets can be bought at the door or online.
$45 non student
$35 student
$25 17 & under


Online
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EVERYONE DROP ALL YOUR DU MEMEBERSHIPS AND JOIN DELTA WATERFOWL>


NO MORE SUPPORT FOR DU TO USE FEDERAL GRANTS TO SUPPORT THIER UNION THEY HAVE BUILT TO EXPLOIT FEDERAL MONEY>


THEN TURN AROUND AND SPEND ALL THIER TIME HELPING ARKANSAS, MISSOURI, AND IOWA TO DEVELOP ARTIFICIAL MARSHES AND PREVENT THE DUCKS FROM COMING SOUTH.

[Spunt Drag]

Y'all just quit *****ing and give DU your money. That's all that matters.

[Marque]

I think if DU stopped printing stickers their membership would go up, CCA too. If they could see some of the a$$ clowns who sport their colors they would distribute their logo's more selectively.

[capt coonassty]

Originally Posted by Marque

I think if DU stopped printing stickers their membership would go up, CCA too. If they could see some of the a$$ clowns who sport their colors they would distribute their logo's more selectively.

I have more than one friend who has a DU duck head tattooed on them. One of them might never have even been to a banquet.

[Marque]

Originally Posted by capt coonassty

I have more than one friend who has a DU duck head tattooed on them. One of them might never have even been to a banquet.

Some times you got to cut a man loose.