Cop execution in BR

[Speck-killer]

The media has already tried the cops in this case, without all the facts. A partial video does not justify a wrong on the police's side. I'm sure the BLM group will say this was just a poor innocent black man doing nothing and was brutally murdered for being black. Yeah Right. I will bet the cops will be justified in using force in the end. Funny just last weekend, I think over 30 blacks were killed by blacks in Chicago, but no mention of that by the BLM group.

[alphaman]

alot of you all know me . met me. Fished with me, I'm not the thug like what you see on TV. . Im Great guy awesome dad. Etc.

But The 1 thing you all will never understand or experience is the color my skin and how I'm looked at regardless of how good i am, dad, loves his kid fishing, working hard etc.

If you keep it simple and look at it that way youll understand but at the end of the day you can't that a fact. I'd say.... but carry one...

True story.

I'm a cop I was at work and in class C uniform and someone ( driver on the interstate) called the cops on me , Said there is a black man holding a gun... (Holstered gun) on the interstate.
I was at work watching inmates cut grass on the over pass.
Luckily I had a radio and was able to cancel every body buy by the time I noticed what was happening. They had 4 cops approaching me.


What you think about this
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[fishfighter]

Originally Posted by alphaman

alot of you all know me . met me. Fished with me, I'm not the thug like what you see on TV. . Im Great guy awesome dad. Etc.

But The 1 thing you all will never understand or experience is the color my skin and how I'm looked at regardless of how good i am, dad, loves his kid fishing, working hard etc.

If you keep it simple and look at it that way youll understand but at the end of the day you can't that a fact. I'd say.... but carry one...

True story.

I'm a cop I was at work and in class C uniform and someone ( driver on the interstate) called the cops on me , Said there is a black man holding a gun... (Holstered gun) on the interstate.
I was at work watching inmates cut grass on the over pass.
Luckily I had a radio and was able to cancel every body buy by the time I noticed what was happening. They had 4 cops approaching me.


What you think about this
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we can see from your perspective you are right about that, but lets say you were not a cop, say you were just the regular upstanding citizen you are, if the cops were called on you and you had a gun the cops tell you get on the ground, what do you do, tell them no and fuss with them? or get on the ground?

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by fishfighter

we can see from your perspective you are right about that, but lets say you were not a cop, say you were just the regular upstanding citizen you are, if the cops were called on you and you had a gun the cops tell you get on the ground, what do you do, tell them no and fuss with them? or get on the ground?

I've had many encounters with LE while packing. I open carry so it's obvious to a trained eye. Rarely am I questioned about it and when I am I make it clear that I'm not a threat. When you're carrying a gun your body language will tell LE more than what you speak. It's really simple. Hands out front be respectful and if asked for ID ask the officer to remove your wallet from your back pocket. Especially if its on your gun side. He is nervous too and wants to go home to his family. Think and it will be a smooth event for both.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by alphaman

alot of you all know me . met me. Fished with me, I'm not the thug like what you see on TV. . Im Great guy awesome dad. Etc.

But The 1 thing you all will never understand or experience is the color my skin and how I'm looked at regardless of how good i am, dad, loves his kid fishing, working hard etc.

If you keep it simple and look at it that way youll understand but at the end of the day you can't that a fact. I'd say.... but carry one...

True story.

I'm a cop I was at work and in class C uniform and someone ( driver on the interstate) called the cops on me , Said there is a black man holding a gun... (Holstered gun) on the interstate.
I was at work watching inmates cut grass on the over pass.
Luckily I had a radio and was able to cancel every body buy by the time I noticed what was happening. They had 4 cops approaching me.


What you think about this
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Never met you but from what I know about you on here you are a great guy. Not saying it did or didn't have anything to do with the color of your skin but there is a lot of stupid, scared people out there when guns are involved. I've run into a few myself.

[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by alphaman

alot of you all know me . met me. Fished with me, I'm not the thug like what you see on TV. . Im Great guy awesome dad. Etc.

But The 1 thing you all will never understand or experience is the color my skin and how I'm looked at regardless of how good i am, dad, loves his kid fishing, working hard etc.

If you keep it simple and look at it that way youll understand but at the end of the day you can't that a fact. I'd say.... but carry one...

True story.

I'm a cop I was at work and in class C uniform and someone ( driver on the interstate) called the cops on me , Said there is a black man holding a gun... (Holstered gun) on the interstate.
I was at work watching inmates cut grass on the over pass.
Luckily I had a radio and was able to cancel every body buy by the time I noticed what was happening. They had 4 cops approaching me.


What you think about this
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Was waiting for you to post..............you are correct, we cannot understand it.........period............that also means to some extent we cannot be the ones solely responsible for fixing it either.

You and our other non Caucasian friends here are treated with the utmost respect the you damn well have earned and deserve. I am often jealous of your and C's post.

A guy like this Sterling guy is the one that tarnishes all the great people of color who honor and respect themselves, their freedom and their fellow man.

When we see "Black lives matter" running around with their pants on the ground, bottle of Vodka in their hand, laughing and living a party at the expense of a dead man, we don't understand.


When the leaders of the black community take "lead" as opposed to taking advantage of a tragedy they will get listened to and respected.

Soooooo many people exploit this for their own accord, having no real agenda or care in the world about the person.

While NO ONE deserves to be shot down for no cause, No one should get a free pass on a life time of poor, stupid and down right selfish decision making.

HE put himself in that situation when one, he had a gun as a habitual convicted felon, he pointed that gun a innocent people, and three he fought the law over standing down and paying the price for yet another stupid decision.

I feel for ALL of our community, all races, all social economic states, and genders and all sexual preferences.

We have allowed our politicians to absolutely corrupt generations of young people.

convincing them there is boogie man out to get them.

My grandfathers generation taught us indeed there was a boogie man..........and that boogie man is you/me.ourselves

Today everyone is looking for an excuse to be a moron. Situational ethics and situational morality...........

You want social justice?? Demand social responsibility.


None of this is directed at you personally as I know your thoughts are genuine as well.

[alphaman]

Get on the ground.....

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[fishfighter]

Originally Posted by alphaman

Get on the ground.....

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Exactly, you cant look at it from his perspective cause you were cut from a different cloth, and none of us can

[Pat Babaz]

@Alphaman

You or anyone like you will NEVER be shot by police. Of this I am 99.999999% certain

[alphaman]

True. Lol BC im not doing stupid sheet. Lol

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[Pat Babaz]

@Alphaman

As a LEO what is your professional opinion on the BR shooting after watching the two videos that have come out? I know ya'll have to make spilt second life and death decisions, do you think the guy was reaching for his gun? Would you have done the same in that situation or no?

[alphaman]

The cop that shot the guy was wasn't able to think under obviously. And his emotion caused him to pull the trigger. I don't think it was intentional. But his emotions controlled his action. The vet said f**k after the shots where fired.


how can this man possible maneuver his right arm to grab a gun that's in his right pocket with 2, 200 plus lb cops on top of him. One kneeling on one arm and a other on top of him.

I think the cop that shot him is younger than the one laying on his back after the shots.



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[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by alphaman

The cop that shot the guy was wasn't able to think under obviously. And his emotion caused him to pull the trigger. I don't think it was intentional. But his emotions controlled his action. The vet said f**k after the shots where fired.


how can this man possible maneuver his right arm to grab a gun that's in his right pocket with 2, 200 plus lb cops on top of him. One kneeling on one arm and a other on top of him.

I think the cop that shot him is younger than the one laying on his back after the shots.



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pretty much how I saw it to..............

so now we have one man dead because of his own stupid actions and multiple lives ruined because of his stupid actions

[seachaser250]

Originally Posted by alphaman

The cop that shot the guy was wasn't able to think under obviously. And his emotion caused him to pull the trigger. I don't think it was intentional. But his emotions controlled his action. The vet said f**k after the shots where fired.


how can this man possible maneuver his right arm to grab a gun that's in his right pocket with 2, 200 plus lb cops on top of him. One kneeling on one arm and a other on top of him.

I think the cop that shot him is younger than the one laying on his back after the shots.



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So were the cops supposed to wait until they were at gun point to then draw on the guy?

I'm not in professional law enforcement but they said he has a gun in a frantic kind of way. Id have to guess they didn't use x ray vision to see the gun through his pants pocket......

[alphaman]

Originally Posted by seachaser250

So were the cops supposed to wait until they were at gun point to then draw on the guy?

I'm not in professional law enforcement but they said he has a gun in a frantic kind of way. Id have to guess they didn't use x ray vision to see the gun through his pants pocket......

Once on the ground. They were suppose to proceed to grab his arms and arrest him. We go threw training on how to arrest someone that's on the ground etc.
They couldn't do that bc they were laying on top him tell him to stop resisting. But obviously werent trying to grab his arms to out cuffs on him. BC they where mentally out of it and on top of him. and the guy wasn't fighting at all. Obviously bc 2 200lb guys where on top of him.

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[seachaser250]

Originally Posted by alphaman

Once on the ground. They were suppose to proceed to grab his arms and arrest him. We go threw training on how to arrest someone that's on the ground etc.
They couldn't do that bc they were laying on top him tell him to stop resisting. But obviously werent trying to grab his arms to out cuffs on him. BC they where mentally out of it and on top of him. and the guy wasn't fighting at all. Obviously bc 2 200lb guys where on top of him.

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Guess We will just have to disagree then.

[Feesherman]

Originally Posted by seachaser250

Guess We will just have to disagree then.

I'm with you. An armed man decides to fight with the cops. Why is anyone surprised he got shot? Why does there even need to be an investigation? It was da cops life or his. He chose wrong. I'm dumbfounded that anyone could be taking the side of the thug who decided fighting with the cops was a much better solution than cooperating.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by alphaman

Once on the ground. They were suppose to proceed to grab his arms and arrest him. We go threw training on how to arrest someone that's on the ground etc.
They couldn't do that bc they were laying on top him tell him to stop resisting. But obviously werent trying to grab his arms to out cuffs on him. BC they where mentally out of it and on top of him. and the guy wasn't fighting at all. Obviously bc 2 200lb guys where on top of him.

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I'm with you just judging from the videos I've seen. Yeah he may have been a scumbag that resisted but it looks like the officers had him contained. I heard one officer say he has a gun. So do I. I didn't see anything thing that makes me believe the officers were not In control and could have ended this without firing a shot. That said he (the officer) is no different than you and I. He wanted to go home after work and was scared. Any LE officer that deals with someone combatant with a gun and says he/she isn't scared is lying. Everyone faces a bad guy with a gun is scared.

[homerun]

[Matt G]

Originally Posted by alphaman

The cop that shot the guy was wasn't able to think under obviously. And his emotion caused him to pull the trigger. I don't think it was intentional. But his emotions controlled his action. The vet said f**k after the shots where fired.


how can this man possible maneuver his right arm to grab a gun that's in his right pocket with 2, 200 plus lb cops on top of him. One kneeling on one arm and a other on top of him.

I think the cop that shot him is younger than the one laying on his back after the shots.



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As a law enforcement officer, how do you approach a call in which someone pulled a gun on another person? Gun drawn? Same way as you would someone jay walking? I'm honestly curious. Is that something you were trained in, or does the situation dictate the approach? I would imagine adrenaline is high and emotions are on edge. Especially if the call were in a crime ridden part of town.

As far as the guy not being able to get to that gun, I call BS. Watch the video closely. At no point in time did they have full control of his right hand. I'll bet you two guys could try to restrain me in the same manner and I could get to whatever was in my pocket. Anyone who has been in any sort of physical altercation would probably make the same bet. Not to mention that he had on baggy pants which would only make it easier to get to the gun, He wouldn't have even had to get it out of his pocket to get a shot off. Basically a variation of retention shooting.

I feel terrible for the man's family. It was heartbreaking watching his son break down at that press conference. But at the end of the day all of this could have been avoided had he just complied.